So I have a small party (2 players) and they both decided that they wanted to use weapons that don't look like weapons. The first player is using a doll that had a very heavy metal in it, the second player is using a weighted yo-yo (he got good crafting rolls so I allowed it). I am just not sure what weapons those are similar to. I'm thinking that the yo-yo is similar enough to a flail, however I have no idea on the doll. We also have a third member that is planning on adding to the mini meme and wants to have a frying pan as part of his weapon set. I'm just not sure what the doll and frying pan would count as when it comes to weapon damage. Thoughts?
Sometimes characters don't have their weapons and have to attack with whatever is at hand. An improvised weapon includes any object you can wield in one or two hands, such as broken glass, a table leg, a frying pan, a wagon wheel, or a dead goblin.
Often, an improvised weapon is similar to an actual weapon and can be treated as such. For example, a table leg is akin to a club. At the DM's option, a character proficient with a weapon can use a similar object as if it were that weapon and use his or her proficiency bonus.
An object that bears no resemblance to a weapon deals 1d4 damage (the DM assigns a damage type appropriate to the object). If a character uses a ranged weapon to make a melee attack, or throws a melee weapon that does not have the thrown property, it also deals 1d4 damage. An improvised thrown weapon has a normal range of 20 feet and a long range of 60 feet.
Sometimes an object doesn't resemble a weapon. That's fine. 1d4 damage, no proficiency.
that is really DM call since this is NOT an "normal" improvised thrown weapon.
I would say the barbarian's strength check to determine the height the stone gets, and then the fall damage from that height would apply to both the rock and the person it hits.
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So I have a small party (2 players) and they both decided that they wanted to use weapons that don't look like weapons. The first player is using a doll that had a very heavy metal in it, the second player is using a weighted yo-yo (he got good crafting rolls so I allowed it). I am just not sure what weapons those are similar to. I'm thinking that the yo-yo is similar enough to a flail, however I have no idea on the doll. We also have a third member that is planning on adding to the mini meme and wants to have a frying pan as part of his weapon set. I'm just not sure what the doll and frying pan would count as when it comes to weapon damage. Thoughts?
Generally speaking, the default is a club.
If a frying pan were as effective as a mace, then nobody would have invented the mace. :)
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Here's the rules for improvised weapons:
Sometimes an object doesn't resemble a weapon. That's fine. 1d4 damage, no proficiency.
Hmm, and what if the object is a 200KG stone thrown by a barbarian? :D
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In mother Russia, barbarian doesn't swing weapon at you, he swings you as weapon.
If the doll is a rag doll (as in having a soft body) it could also function like a flail. If the body is hard and stiff, then probably a club or mace.
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@Beebass What kind of campaign is this for? I'm sooo curious. It sounds like homebrew.
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that is really DM call since this is NOT an "normal" improvised thrown weapon.
I would say the barbarian's strength check to determine the height the stone gets, and then the fall damage from that height would apply to both the rock and the person it hits.