But when the One ring was destroyed, the nazgul couldn't live in the mortal world. even partially.
Really? I was under the impression that the Nazgul's life forces were bound to their rings, which Sauron kept so that he could keep them under his control. With Sauron and the One gone, they could do what they like, only they were destroyed when Mount Doom erupted. But Tolkien gives a hint that as long as the Nine survive, the Nazgul continue to exist. He practically confirms that the Witch King will return (except that Tolkien died before he could write it)
Hmm, I'm debating with myself over whether my theory was accurate. Maybe Legolas and Gradius are both right. The Nazgul are bound to their rings but if they die again, they can decide whether or not they want to stay dead. Sauron did have control over them with the One Ring so he would always just bring them back regardless. This makes me wonder if some of the Nazgul weren't actually bad and were just used as puppets for Sauron. That would suck. Slaughtering innocents for guy you hate knowing that you can't do anything about it.
They probably would've started enjoying killing over time, especially considering how easily all nine succumbed to their Rings.
I do think that the Witch-King might be the next dark lord after Sauron. Both evil and good are in a gradual but steady decline.
But when the One ring was destroyed, the nazgul couldn't live in the mortal world. even partially.
Really? I was under the impression that the Nazgul's life forces were bound to their rings, which Sauron kept so that he could keep them under his control. With Sauron and the One gone, they could do what they like, only they were destroyed when Mount Doom erupted. But Tolkien gives a hint that as long as the Nine survive, the Nazgul continue to exist. He practically confirms that the Witch King will return (except that Tolkien died before he could write it)
Hmm, I'm debating with myself over whether my theory was accurate. Maybe Legolas and Gradius are both right. The Nazgul are bound to their rings but if they die again, they can decide whether or not they want to stay dead. Sauron did have control over them with the One Ring so he would always just bring them back regardless. This makes me wonder if some of the Nazgul weren't actually bad and were just used as puppets for Sauron. That would suck. Slaughtering innocents for guy you hate knowing that you can't do anything about it.
They probably would've started enjoying killing over time, especially considering how easily all nine succumbed to their Rings.
I do think that the Witch-King might be the next dark lord after Sauron. Both evil and good are in a gradual but steady decline.
But when the One ring was destroyed, the nazgul couldn't live in the mortal world. even partially.
Really? I was under the impression that the Nazgul's life forces were bound to their rings, which Sauron kept so that he could keep them under his control. With Sauron and the One gone, they could do what they like, only they were destroyed when Mount Doom erupted. But Tolkien gives a hint that as long as the Nine survive, the Nazgul continue to exist. He practically confirms that the Witch King will return (except that Tolkien died before he could write it)
Hmm, I'm debating with myself over whether my theory was accurate. Maybe Legolas and Gradius are both right. The Nazgul are bound to their rings but if they die again, they can decide whether or not they want to stay dead. Sauron did have control over them with the One Ring so he would always just bring them back regardless. This makes me wonder if some of the Nazgul weren't actually bad and were just used as puppets for Sauron. That would suck. Slaughtering innocents for guy you hate knowing that you can't do anything about it.
They probably would've started enjoying killing over time, especially considering how easily all nine succumbed to their Rings.
I do think that the Witch-King might be the next dark lord after Sauron. Both evil and good are in a gradual but steady decline.
You know Melkor and Morgoth are the same entity right?
Indeed. In The Chidlren of Hurin, they called him Melkor.
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The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that... "Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent* "Eliksni must rise...yes?" _________ When it comes to pronouns I preferVariks-Senpai(But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
Also, I think it's too late for the nazgul. they've already been corrupted. they can't come back.
Yep, like Half said, they probably got used to the killing after a while.
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The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that... "Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent* "Eliksni must rise...yes?" _________ When it comes to pronouns I preferVariks-Senpai(But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
But when the One ring was destroyed, the nazgul couldn't live in the mortal world. even partially.
Really? I was under the impression that the Nazgul's life forces were bound to their rings, which Sauron kept so that he could keep them under his control. With Sauron and the One gone, they could do what they like, only they were destroyed when Mount Doom erupted. But Tolkien gives a hint that as long as the Nine survive, the Nazgul continue to exist. He practically confirms that the Witch King will return (except that Tolkien died before he could write it)
Hmm, I'm debating with myself over whether my theory was accurate. Maybe Legolas and Gradius are both right. The Nazgul are bound to their rings but if they die again, they can decide whether or not they want to stay dead. Sauron did have control over them with the One Ring so he would always just bring them back regardless. This makes me wonder if some of the Nazgul weren't actually bad and were just used as puppets for Sauron. That would suck. Slaughtering innocents for guy you hate knowing that you can't do anything about it.
They probably would've started enjoying killing over time, especially considering how easily all nine succumbed to their Rings.
I do think that the Witch-King might be the next dark lord after Sauron. Both evil and good are in a gradual but steady decline.
You know Melkor and Morgoth are the same entity right?
Yes, but it's stated that he grew weaker over time when he became Morgoth.
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The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that... "Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent* "Eliksni must rise...yes?" _________ When it comes to pronouns I preferVariks-Senpai(But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
Yes, but it's stated that he grew weaker over time when he became Morgoth.
Yeah, Hurin defeated Melkor and then Turin defeated Morgoth. But then Turin committed suicide. So, that was kinda depressing.
If by "defeated" you mean "wasn't broken by" then yes. They didn't physically overpower him. Only Fingolfin and Luthien ever came close in that regard.
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Yes, but it's stated that he grew weaker over time when he became Morgoth.
Yeah, Hurin defeated Melkor and then Turin defeated Morgoth. But then Turin committed suicide. So, that was kinda depressing.
If by "defeated" you mean "wasn't broken by" then yes. They didn't physically overpower him. Only Fingolfin and Luthien ever came close in that regard.
Good point. However, Turin's face off with Morgoth was pretty cool. Hurin's was sad. Really sad.
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The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that... "Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent* "Eliksni must rise...yes?" _________ When it comes to pronouns I preferVariks-Senpai(But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
I think it would be cool to be have some of the ranks have the names of legitimate characters from Tolkien's Universe. For example, I said I'd like to be Elrond if I got such a choice. Half could be one of the actual Maia, TTB could be one of the...many many many dwarfs, and Legolas could choose one of the Valar, etc. etc.
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The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that... "Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent* "Eliksni must rise...yes?" _________ When it comes to pronouns I preferVariks-Senpai(But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
I think it would be cool to be have some of the ranks have the names of legitimate characters from Tolkien's Universe. For example, I said I'd like to be Elrond if I got such a choice. Half could be one of the actual Maia, TTB could be one of the...many many many dwarfs, and Legolas could choose one of the Valar, etc. etc.
I think it would be cool to be have some of the ranks have the names of legitimate characters from Tolkien's Universe. For example, I said I'd like to be Elrond if I got such a choice. Half could be one of the actual Maia, TTB could be one of the...many many many dwarfs, and Legolas could choose one of the Valar, etc. etc.
Sure. If everyone else agrees, let’s do it!
Epiiiiiiic.
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The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that... "Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent* "Eliksni must rise...yes?" _________ When it comes to pronouns I preferVariks-Senpai(But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
I think it would be cool to be have some of the ranks have the names of legitimate characters from Tolkien's Universe. For example, I said I'd like to be Elrond if I got such a choice. Half could be one of the actual Maia, TTB could be one of the...many many many dwarfs, and Legolas could choose one of the Valar, etc. etc.
Sure. If everyone else agrees, let’s do it!
Epiiiiiiic.
Alright, so me and Variks have already voted yes. Halfast, Thauraeln, Gradius, you still need to vote.
I think it would be cool to be have some of the ranks have the names of legitimate characters from Tolkien's Universe. For example, I said I'd like to be Elrond if I got such a choice. Half could be one of the actual Maia, TTB could be one of the...many many many dwarfs, and Legolas could choose one of the Valar, etc. etc.
Sure. If everyone else agrees, let’s do it!
Epiiiiiiic.
Alright, so me and Variks have already voted yes. Halfast, Thauraeln, Gradius, you still need to vote.
I think it would be cool to be have some of the ranks have the names of legitimate characters from Tolkien's Universe. For example, I said I'd like to be Elrond if I got such a choice. Half could be one of the actual Maia, TTB could be one of the...many many many dwarfs, and Legolas could choose one of the Valar, etc. etc.
Sure. If everyone else agrees, let’s do it!
Epiiiiiiic.
Alright, so me and Variks have already voted yes. Halfast, Thauraeln, Gradius, you still need to vote.
Yes. Is Gothmog an option?
I vote yes as well. I bet Half wants to be Halfast Bracegirdle.
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I think it would be cool to be have some of the ranks have the names of legitimate characters from Tolkien's Universe. For example, I said I'd like to be Elrond if I got such a choice. Half could be one of the actual Maia, TTB could be one of the...many many many dwarfs, and Legolas could choose one of the Valar, etc. etc.
Sure. If everyone else agrees, let’s do it!
Epiiiiiiic.
Alright, so me and Variks have already voted yes. Halfast, Thauraeln, Gradius, you still need to vote.
Yes. Is Gothmog an option?
I vote yes as well. I bet Half wants to be Halfast Bracegirdle.
I have a weird sense of humor.
I also make maps.(That's a link)
You know Melkor and Morgoth are the same entity right?
they/her Always open to chat. Just send me a PM
You're no longer my concern
Faces from my past return
Another lesson yet to learn
Yeah I guess your right Legolas. Also just because you mentioned it:
Rest in peace J.R.R, you will forever be the best author ever to write a fantasy book. rip.....
Back in black baby
Also, I think it's too late for the nazgul. they've already been corrupted. they can't come back.
Back in black baby
Indeed. In The Chidlren of Hurin, they called him Melkor.
The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that...
"Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent*
"Eliksni must rise...yes?"
_________
When it comes to pronouns I prefer Variks-Senpai (But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
You don't have to quote EVERYONE, and if you want to quote someone, you only need to quote the quote the person that you're responding to.
Back in black baby
Yep, like Half said, they probably got used to the killing after a while.
The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that...
"Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent*
"Eliksni must rise...yes?"
_________
When it comes to pronouns I prefer Variks-Senpai (But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
Yes, but it's stated that he grew weaker over time when he became Morgoth.
All stars fade. Some stars forever fall.
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If there was no light, people wouldn't fear the dark.
Yeah, Hurin defeated Melkor and then Turin defeated Morgoth. But then Turin committed suicide. So, that was kinda depressing.
The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that...
"Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent*
"Eliksni must rise...yes?"
_________
When it comes to pronouns I prefer Variks-Senpai (But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
If by "defeated" you mean "wasn't broken by" then yes. They didn't physically overpower him. Only Fingolfin and Luthien ever came close in that regard.
All stars fade. Some stars forever fall.
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If there was no light, people wouldn't fear the dark.
Good point. However, Turin's face off with Morgoth was pretty cool. Hurin's was sad. Really sad.
The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that...
"Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent*
"Eliksni must rise...yes?"
_________
When it comes to pronouns I prefer Variks-Senpai (But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
I'm the Valar (leader and creator) of The Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit/Anything Tolkien Cult!
Member of the Cult of Cats, High Elf of the Elven Guild, and Sauce Priest & Sauce Smith of the Supreme Court of Sauce.
If you want some casual roleplay/adventures in Middle Earth, check out The Wild's Edge Tavern, a LotR/Middle Earth tavern!
JOIN TIAMAT'S CONGA LINE!
Extended Sig
Aw ma. that video's unavailable for me.
Back in black baby
I know I'm not a Maia but
I think it would be cool to be have some of the ranks have the names of legitimate characters from Tolkien's Universe. For example, I said I'd like to be Elrond if I got such a choice. Half could be one of the actual Maia, TTB could be one of the...many many many dwarfs, and Legolas could choose one of the Valar, etc. etc.
The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that...
"Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent*
"Eliksni must rise...yes?"
_________
When it comes to pronouns I prefer Variks-Senpai (But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
Sure. If everyone else agrees, let’s do it!
I'm the Valar (leader and creator) of The Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit/Anything Tolkien Cult!
Member of the Cult of Cats, High Elf of the Elven Guild, and Sauce Priest & Sauce Smith of the Supreme Court of Sauce.
If you want some casual roleplay/adventures in Middle Earth, check out The Wild's Edge Tavern, a LotR/Middle Earth tavern!
JOIN TIAMAT'S CONGA LINE!
Extended Sig
Epiiiiiiic.
The Tavern Mother (Trust me, it's not as weird as it sounds!)
I am the God-Queen of Trickery, Cunning, Lies, and Gaslighting- but you already knew that...
"Moon's Haunted." *Cocks shotgun with malicious intent*
"Eliksni must rise...yes?"
_________
When it comes to pronouns I prefer Variks-Senpai (But I'm a dude. Pronouns are weird.)
Alright, so me and Variks have already voted yes. Halfast, Thauraeln, Gradius, you still need to vote.
I'm the Valar (leader and creator) of The Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit/Anything Tolkien Cult!
Member of the Cult of Cats, High Elf of the Elven Guild, and Sauce Priest & Sauce Smith of the Supreme Court of Sauce.
If you want some casual roleplay/adventures in Middle Earth, check out The Wild's Edge Tavern, a LotR/Middle Earth tavern!
JOIN TIAMAT'S CONGA LINE!
Extended Sig
Yes. Is Gothmog an option?
I have a weird sense of humor.
I also make maps.(That's a link)
I vote yes as well. I bet Half wants to be Halfast Bracegirdle.
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If there was no light, people wouldn't fear the dark.
That's a hobbit.
I have a weird sense of humor.
I also make maps.(That's a link)