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 Thanks. That actually makes sense. I honestly never thought about it enough to think about the Christian influences. Which explains why I heartily dislike it, I’m a devout atheist.

I still think it’s stupid for my stated reasons, and my opinion has been quadrupled over the Christian influences, but eh. Everyone’s allowed their own opinion.

 
Well, if you allow yourself to “heartily dislike” a portion of the franchise simply because it has Christian influences, I have some bad news for you, which I’ll let Tolkien himself break:

The Lord of the Rings' is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out practically all references to anything like 'religion,' to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and symbolism.

The works are, at their core, one of the great works of Christian literature* - perhaps not as over in their design as The Divine Comedy, Paradise Lost, or anything Lewis ever wrote, but Tolkien’s roots are far from subtle.  I would posture that one need not be Catholic, or even religious, to be able to appreciate the fact that the single most important part of the work to Tolkien was not the language, not his writing, not his characters, and not his plot—it was the religious experience he found in writing the series.*

Even to an atheist or one of a different faith, seeing the hand of Tolkien’s Catholicism in the works should not be a point of derision, but a point of purely academic fascination.** It is through those elements you learn more not just about the world, but about the author himself; they provide an empathetic link to a man who created not only a world, but reimagined an entire genera of literature. 

*To add some personal experience, the Silmarillion and the LotR have actually helped me deal with theology. Particularly Illuvitar's quote to Melkor which answered the question of theodicy to me

**Similarly to how nearly no one is a follower of the Greek pantheon, but we still read the Illiad

Just to put in my two cents

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 Thanks. That actually makes sense. I honestly never thought about it enough to think about the Christian influences. Which explains why I heartily dislike it, I’m a devout atheist.

I still think it’s stupid for my stated reasons, and my opinion has been quadrupled over the Christian influences, but eh. Everyone’s allowed their own opinion.

 
Well, if you allow yourself to “heartily dislike” a portion of the franchise simply because it has Christian influences, I have some bad news for you, which I’ll let Tolkien himself break:

The Lord of the Rings' is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out practically all references to anything like 'religion,' to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and symbolism.

The works are, at their core, one of the great works of Christian literature - perhaps not as over in their design as The Divine Comedy, Paradise Lost, or anything Lewis ever wrote, but Tolkien’s roots are far from subtle.  I would posture that one need not be Catholic, or even religious, to be able to appreciate the fact that the single most important part of the work to Tolkien was not the language, not his writing, not his characters, and not his plot—it was the religious experience he found in writing the series. 

Even to an atheist or one of a different faith, seeing the hand of Tolkien’s Catholicism in the works should not be a point of derision, but a point of purely academic fascination. It is through those elements you learn more not just about the world, but about the author himself; they provide an empathetic link to a man who created not only a world, but reimagined an entire genera of literature. 

 Yeah, I can ignore it if it isn’t obvious though.

Also: someone change the subject please, cause if we keep talking about religion I’m gonna say some things that will probably get me banned from DDB (that’s why I’m going to shut up right now).

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No lot really. Do you?

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Anyone here like Zelda?

No lot really. Do you?

 The concept is cool but they need to develop Zelda as a more fully fleshed character and not just an object for Link to chase after.

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Anyone here like Zelda?

No lot really. Do you?

 The concept is cool but they need to develop Zelda as a more fully fleshed character and not just an object for Link to chase after.

 I think that Skyward Sword does that really well. Link THINKS he needs to save Zelda, but her role is the most integral in the saving and shaping of the Land of Hyrule as we know it today. Plus, Link couldn’t do a THING without her. 

 That sounds awesome 🥰

Personally, I enjoy some of the important side characters in the TLOZ games, sometimes more than the actual main characters

I mean, sure, yeah, link is cool, but what about Impa? or the one who teaches TP link all their special moves (darknut, i think?), or heck, even the Bolson Company in BoTW has some cool characters and gives you a cool questline to follow

My new--or rather old--copy of the Silmarillion arrived today to join its brethren!  The fold out map is neat and in great condition--they're very pretty and the size makes them quite fun to explore, but, frankly, the modern system of including a smaller scaled map on one or two pages is a vastly better system.  Still, it is quite pretty, so figured I would share.

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My new--or rather old--copy of the Silmarillion arrived today to join its brethren!  The fold out map is neat and in great condition--they're very pretty and the size makes them quite fun to explore, but, frankly, the modern system of including a smaller scaled map on one or two pages is a vastly better system.  Still, it is quite pretty, so figured I would share.

 Thanks!

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My new--or rather old--copy of the Silmarillion arrived today to join its brethren!  The fold out map is neat and in great condition--they're very pretty and the size makes them quite fun to explore, but, frankly, the modern system of including a smaller scaled map on one or two pages is a vastly better system.  Still, it is quite pretty, so figured I would share.

 Wow that’s so cool!

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Personally, I enjoy some of the important side characters in the TLOZ games, sometimes more than the actual main characters

I mean, sure, yeah, link is cool, but what about Impa? or the one who teaches TP link all their special moves (darknut, i think?), or heck, even the Bolson Company in BoTW has some cool characters and gives you a cool questline to follow

 Also, I assume you mean Hero’s Shade? Darknut are villains.

 yeah, the Hero's shade. dont ask why i thought that at first.

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Personally, I enjoy some of the important side characters in the TLOZ games, sometimes more than the actual main characters

I mean, sure, yeah, link is cool, but what about Impa? or the one who teaches TP link all their special moves (darknut, i think?), or heck, even the Bolson Company in BoTW has some cool characters and gives you a cool questline to follow

 Also, I assume you mean Hero’s Shade? Darknut are villains.

 yeah, the Hero's shade. dont ask why i thought that at first.

 Only if you let me brag:

I’ve neverplayed Twilight Princess, and I still knew it was Hero’s Shade. Don’t ask why. 

 only if I get to share that I've beaten the game many times

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Personally, I enjoy some of the important side characters in the TLOZ games, sometimes more than the actual main characters

I mean, sure, yeah, link is cool, but what about Impa? or the one who teaches TP link all their special moves (darknut, i think?), or heck, even the Bolson Company in BoTW has some cool characters and gives you a cool questline to follow

 Also, I assume you mean Hero’s Shade? Darknut are villains.

 yeah, the Hero's shade. dont ask why i thought that at first.

 Only if you let me brag:

I’ve neverplayed Twilight Princess, and I still knew it was Hero’s Shade. Don’t ask why. 

 only if I get to share that I've beaten the game many times

 Just makes the fact that you can’t remember the name all that more embarrassing. 

 I was 12 when i last played

and Im 18. so it's been 6 years since i last played

When you check your favorite page after all this time

The nostalgia it overwhelms me

LOTR

Ground breaking theory

the true villian of LotR is…dun dun duuuhhh…Barliman Butterbur. Think about for a while and post if you agree

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the true villian of LotR is…dun dun duuuhhh…Barliman Butterbur. Think about for a while and post if you agree

 I would defo agree if I knew who that was lol. The name rings a bell though…

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The nostalgia it overwhelms me

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LOTR

 VERY LOTR