After a kensei makes their unarmed attack, can they (if they have the actions to do so) also attack with the melee weapon that is affording then the AC bonus?
You only have to make "an" unarmed strike as part of your Attack action, so you can use the weapon and still get the AC bonus so long as you have other means of adding attacks to that single unarmed strike, such as with the Extra Attack feature or with the haste spell. Agile Parry only requires you to deliberately withhold a single weapon attack, essentially.
Withhold? While I think I see where you're going with it, I think it's a confusing word to use.
All Agile Parry needs to work is to make a single unarmed strike. What you do with the rest of your attack options is of no concern to it, as long as one of your attacks (from any source) during the round is unarmed, and you're not losing any attack for its bonus.
It specifies an Attack Action. This means that it can't be, say, an unarmed strike that you make as a bonus action. It would have to be one of your main attack(s). Reaching 5th level for extra attack would make it a lot easier. This all is, of course, assuming I didn't miss something which is very possible
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I know what you're thinking: "In that flurry of blows, did he use all his ki points, or save one?" Well, are ya feeling lucky, punk?
Withhold? While I think I see where you're going with it, I think it's a confusing word to use.
All Agile Parry needs to work is to make a single unarmed strike. What you do with the rest of your attack options is of no concern to it, as long as one of your attacks (from any source) during the round is unarmed, and you're not losing any attack for its bonus.
Since the unarmed strike has to be made with the Attack action, you're effectively downgrading one attack you'd normally make with your kensei weapon. That's what ratwhowouldbeking means by "withhold a single weapon attack"
Correct. You would have to make one of the attacks in the attack action an unarmed strike. So until you have an extra attack you have to give up the weapon attack to gain the benefits.
It says, make an unarmed stroke as part of your attack action. I think your unarmed strike bonus action would count if you first attack with the weapon. However if you attack woth your weapon you cound not disengage , dodge, or another ability and still use agile parry. Somewhere in your turn you must make an unarmed strike to. Get the +2 ac
It says, make an unarmed stroke as part of your attack action. I think your unarmed strike bonus action would count if you first attack with the weapon. However if you attack woth your weapon you cound not disengage , dodge, or another ability and still use agile parry. Somewhere in your turn you must make an unarmed strike to. Get the +2 ac
No, it does not; it specifically states that the Unarmed Strike needs to be part of THE attack action. Whatever you do in your flurry of blows is irrelevant to it.
An attack action and a bonus action are not the same thing, nor are they interchangeable in this case. The wording is very specific in that you have to make an unarmed strike during your attack action. Bonus action attacks are irrelevant and do not affect this feature.
An attack action and a bonus action are not the same thing, nor are they interchangeable in this case. The wording is very specific in that you have to make an unarmed strike during your attack action. Bonus action attacks are irrelevant and do not affect this feature.
Lol :P we posted the same thing at the exact same time I think :P
Yes, you can make an attack vs any target, as a “valid” target is undefined.
a target of an attack can be an object, a creature, or a space.
usually targeting a space would be done if unsure of where a hidden creature is. this would generally be in Hopes that the hidden creature is in that space. There are a few class features that can happen off of attacks without specifying hits or even targets. For example, the horizon walkers level 11 feature says it needs to take the attack action and make attacks before each 10ft teleport, but also does not specify hits or targets.
doesnt seem particularly advantageous to me though. Perhaps attack the air and bonus action dodge or lay prone if being targeted by ranged attacks? Very niche use. I’m probably missing something though.
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After a kensei makes their unarmed attack, can they (if they have the actions to do so) also attack with the melee weapon that is affording then the AC bonus?
You only have to make "an" unarmed strike as part of your Attack action, so you can use the weapon and still get the AC bonus so long as you have other means of adding attacks to that single unarmed strike, such as with the Extra Attack feature or with the haste spell. Agile Parry only requires you to deliberately withhold a single weapon attack, essentially.
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Withhold? While I think I see where you're going with it, I think it's a confusing word to use.
All Agile Parry needs to work is to make a single unarmed strike. What you do with the rest of your attack options is of no concern to it, as long as one of your attacks (from any source) during the round is unarmed, and you're not losing any attack for its bonus.
It specifies an Attack Action. This means that it can't be, say, an unarmed strike that you make as a bonus action. It would have to be one of your main attack(s). Reaching 5th level for extra attack would make it a lot easier. This all is, of course, assuming I didn't miss something which is very possible
I know what you're thinking: "In that flurry of blows, did he use all his ki points, or save one?" Well, are ya feeling lucky, punk?
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Wait, so agile perry won't trigger if:
weapon attack, spend kit point for flurry of blows
is that correct?
Correct. You would have to make one of the attacks in the attack action an unarmed strike. So until you have an extra attack you have to give up the weapon attack to gain the benefits.
Aah, yes, that is correct, I misremembered.
That should teach me to comment without verifying first. >.<
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It says, make an unarmed stroke as part of your attack action. I think your unarmed strike bonus action would count if you first attack with the weapon. However if you attack woth your weapon you cound not disengage , dodge, or another ability and still use agile parry. Somewhere in your turn you must make an unarmed strike to. Get the +2 ac
Subclass: Dwarven Defender - Dragonborn Paragon
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Monsters: Sheep - Spellbreaker Warforged Titan
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An attack action and a bonus action are not the same thing, nor are they interchangeable in this case. The wording is very specific in that you have to make an unarmed strike during your attack action. Bonus action attacks are irrelevant and do not affect this feature.
Subclass: Dwarven Defender - Dragonborn Paragon
Feats: Artificer Apprentice
Monsters: Sheep - Spellbreaker Warforged Titan
Magic Items: Whipier - Ring of Secret Storage - Collar of the Guardian
Monster template: Skeletal Creature
Question: can the Monk make an unarmed strike to attack an empty space in front of it to gain the Agile Parry?
Yes, you can make an attack vs any target, as a “valid” target is undefined.
a target of an attack can be an object, a creature, or a space.
usually targeting a space would be done if unsure of where a hidden creature is. this would generally be in Hopes that the hidden creature is in that space. There are a few class features that can happen off of attacks without specifying hits or even targets. For example, the horizon walkers level 11 feature says it needs to take the attack action and make attacks before each 10ft teleport, but also does not specify hits or targets.
doesnt seem particularly advantageous to me though. Perhaps attack the air and bonus action dodge or lay prone if being targeted by ranged attacks? Very niche use. I’m probably missing something though.