The alt covers are supposed to be helping LGS by allowing them to sell something exclusive, however, now players are forced to choose between a premium book copy or buying the regular book with the option to add on the digital version but frankly I don't find that fair. Please, don't get me wrong. I am extremely happy these bundles exist, I just think they need to take it a small step further and also have an options to get a digital copy included with the premium copy purchased at an LGS. I can't be the only one who feels this way, can I?
You will probably want the the LGS to ask Beyond's staff about whether it is legal or not, but you can pay the LGS and have the LGS buy you a redeemable code. It is still two purchases on Wizards' end, but it will be one reciept on your end from the LGS. LGS may or may not charge you a convience fee for taking the time to go online, but even if there is no additional fee, I rather just buy the digital tools in the comfort of my own home directly so there is less chance of things going wrong.
Depend on how you define "a lot". WotC acquisition of D&D Beyond was May 2022. This is 9 months and change. "Several" means "more than two but less than many" but "many" is also very undetermined. It is common to use "several" as somewhere in a range of a few (3) and a dozen (12). So, depending on your cultural variance of the word "several" may be directly correct or "slightly less" than the actual amount of months.
In other words this is a rather odd point to make in a contentious manner, given that the word has a vague definition.
2) The DDB staff intentionally pinned messages with inaccurate information for months.
Can you detail what inaccurate information was pinned - seems weird I missed that on a site I visit multiple times a day. And how do you know it was intentional?
3) The DDB staff tried to silence posters who identified this behavior by deleting posts and threatening forum bans.
Seems more like people were stopped from trying to stir up trouble more than anything. I have seen instances where mods or staff post something that turned out to be inaccurate, it got pointed out, they corrected themselves and thanked the person who did the pointing out. I've seen people speak against WotC over this and no secret deletions or anything. I see no evidence of this conspiracy. I have witnessed people trying to correct staff with made-up stuff, get deleted, then whine about it which also got deleted. Thats not a conspiracy, it's people trying to deliberately cause unjustified drama, get shut down, and throw a tantrum over it - which is also against the rules and removed.
I'm on here more often than most mods or staff and see a lot of stuff before they get removed. So far I have not seen any that were deleted that shouldn't have been.
There is no reason to have any faith in anyone paid by Hasbro/WotC until they give us one. I'm not holding my breath.
And what "faith" needs to be given (although this defeats the point of faith, I think you mean trust, not faith)?
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I'm switching to just direct copy-paste quote methods because this forum's quote system is infuriating in trying to clear up nested quotes into something more relevant and readable. It's gone 4 am and I'm too tired. 🤣
"I am not sure why you are being so aggressive and hostile. Please act in an appropriate manner in the future."
They were not being hostile or aggressive to you at all. It's puzzling to me how you could have interpreted it as such.
"D&D Beyond was part of WotC and had false information about their ownership"
What falsehoods? The announcement of the intent to buy D&D Beyond was made over a month in advance and confirmed when it was finalised. They were clear and open about it. There were posts and social media and Q+As and statements. What was false?
"This was then exacerbated by WotC's feelings towards the OGL and its customers. "
I dunno what is meant by "this was then exacerbated" as I contend this notion of false information being given about ownership. But, aye, I think we can all agree the OGL debacle was an absolute shit-show and, quite understandably, broke a lot of trust between WotC and the D&D community. Although I'm not in the "get the pitchforks" crowd - just a greedy company being greedy. It was disappointing but not world-shattering. But anyway, I feel like I'm digressing. Just saying I agree, to some extent.
"You are 100% making excuses for them"
No, they're not. You're not just posting opinions you're also making statements and definitions that do not make sense, so they get questioned and responded to.
" I simply disagree with your opinion."
Opinions and excuses are not the same things. So, are they opinions or are they excuses? The answer is "some opinions, some facts and zero excuses". But I mention this because this is why you are coming across as adversarial. You're saying they are making excuses and then saying they're just opinions. Between this, the unfounded claims, telling somebody they're being aggressive and hostile when they aren't being such at all... Yeah, you're coming across as quite adversarial and a little insulting, not gonna lie. Now, don't get me wrong, a little bit adversarial can be good for discourse - keeps the back and forth up, makes ya think, it can be spiffy. I mean, my response to you could be seen as a bit adversarial as I am challenging what you state, disagreeing with you and being a bit direct with the quote-response-quote-response method. Hopefully, you can see I'm only doing that for clarifying context and it's only a little adversarial - conversationally so. But some of what you are saying does, hopefully unintentionally, come across as a little too adversarial and a teensy-bit offensive. Just a smidge.
"I am employed and quite successful in my field. "
While I cannot speak for Doranur, I believe the comment about you not working is because you seem to be overly miffed at "staff" as if they're being all nefarious and deliberate. Even if they were making these inaccurate claims and disappearing posts - they would be doing so as ordered as employees. As an employee yourself, then, you should know that when people are faced with "do this or be fired" most choose "do this". Anyone who has the freedom to choose "be fired" are in a very privileged circumstance. For instance, if my boss asked me to do something I don't agree with, I would probably do it rather than just refuse and get fired just like in school I would do things i didn't like and i think that transitioned into my adult life,I remember having to write a lot of essays and I was litreally having problems with my grades but then a friend of mine adviced me to use this site he found.It helped me more than anything and i think this is the site https://gradesfixer.com/ can't really imagine what i would've done without it.It has a lot of useful information and different types of essays!It would have to be something massively extreme (and no, pissing off players of a game would not be enough). Because losing my job means being unable to pay rent - in a place where a new job to earn enough is very hard to get - so I lose my home. Losing my home and job at the same time - for a second time in my life - due to circumstances beyond my control... Yeah that is gonna break me, mentally. I'm still not recovered from my last mental health breakdown. There is a chance I'd end up worse than just 'needing observation'.
So, maybe realise that the "staff" you seem to imply as being all wrong/cover-uppy, might not really have had a choice. Like most people - being fired can have some severe consequences. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to just easily get another job.
So, maybe, better to question the bosses, rather than the employees who are probably just doing what they're told so they can have a home and a hot meal. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Would it be possible to add CET/CEST to the digital release times posted by moderators? We are usually one hour behind UK, and it would make Europeans feel more appreciated as customers. (Double post, because I am not sure what the correct thread is)
Hello all, new to the forums so forgive me if this was answered. Will the Players Handbook 2024 be considered a new product, or an update for those of us with digital Players Handbook 2014?
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Welcome to the forums! I think it's almost definite that the 2024 Player's Handbook will be an entirely new product and not an update. So if you have the digital 2014 Player's Handbook on D&D Beyond, it won't 'automatically update for free' to the digital 2024 Player's Handbook.
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Is this forum where one would go to request that DDB be made more accessible for people whose main language is not English?
I'm asking because one of the Devs redacted part of my message in the General Discussion forum.
I reckon you're better off making a new thread asking for changes in the D&D Beyond Feedback forum.
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You will probably want the the LGS to ask Beyond's staff about whether it is legal or not, but you can pay the LGS and have the LGS buy you a redeemable code. It is still two purchases on Wizards' end, but it will be one reciept on your end from the LGS. LGS may or may not charge you a convience fee for taking the time to go online, but even if there is no additional fee, I rather just buy the digital tools in the comfort of my own home directly so there is less chance of things going wrong.
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Not a terrible idea but there should still be some kind of discount for buying two books IMO. That's my argument anyway.
You are damn right!
Would it be possible to add CET/CEST to the digital release times posted by moderators? We are usually one hour behind UK, and it would make Europeans feel more appreciated as customers. (Double post, because I am not sure what the correct thread is)
Hello all, new to the forums so forgive me if this was answered. Will the Players Handbook 2024 be considered a new product, or an update for those of us with digital Players Handbook 2014?
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Welcome to the forums! I think it's almost definite that the 2024 Player's Handbook will be an entirely new product and not an update. So if you have the digital 2014 Player's Handbook on D&D Beyond, it won't 'automatically update for free' to the digital 2024 Player's Handbook.
#Open D&D
Have the Physical Books? Confused as to why you're not allowed to redeem them for free on D&D Beyond? Questions answered here at the Hardcover Books, D&D Beyond and You FAQ
Looking to add mouse-over triggered tooltips to such things like magic items, monsters or combat actions? Then dash over to the How to Add Tooltips thread.
Is this forum where one would go to request that DDB be made more accessible for people whose main language is not English?
I'm asking because one of the Devs redacted part of my message in the General Discussion forum.
I reckon you're better off making a new thread asking for changes in the D&D Beyond Feedback forum.
#Open D&D
Have the Physical Books? Confused as to why you're not allowed to redeem them for free on D&D Beyond? Questions answered here at the Hardcover Books, D&D Beyond and You FAQ
Looking to add mouse-over triggered tooltips to such things like magic items, monsters or combat actions? Then dash over to the How to Add Tooltips thread.