Im super excited to be able to run a full campaign outside the Sword Coast; I predict based on Mearls reddit that we may see a future expansion of the Realms into the East, he's a big fan of the Red Wizards of Thay!!
I think slowly Wizards will be releasing expansions to the FR, I hope to see Thay and even Kara-Tur!
FR is certifiably the most popular D&D setting, if it weren't WotC would not be capitalizing on it so extensively. Eberron and Greyhawk are popular, but not enough to be the DEFAULTcampaign setting, unfortunately.
A poll on this forum will not count as evidence my friend, this community is a fraction of the greater world ;-)
There are many reasons Wizards would stick with FR even if it isn't the most popular setting for table top DnD. They haven't given their methodology for determining that it is either. Also, many of their settings simply have not been taken for a spin to see if they would be popular—so whatever their method there is room to quivel. I suspect he real reason they stick to the FR (which is an odd fit for default DnD in many ways, Greyhawk or Blackmoor being more natural as the orinal settings) has to do with their multimedia commitments and contracts. The books and video games are the culprits here.
Sure, but that just means that FR would still be more popular than other IPs based on name recognition alone. People reading FR novels or playing FR-themed video games are going to be easier to co-opt into D&D gaming based on familiarity with the IP. Wizards is looking to get more non-players in the market and there will always be more of those than the (maybe large) minority of current and former customers who know or care about other settings. Also, the game itself is designed so that those players can update older material on their own for home games. There's less impetus to make a book that divides the audience between multiple popular settings.
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Statistics are indeed credible evidence in determining a consensus of popularity. That is why WotC uses it as a means to test new material and to gather feedback. This may only be a small sample size of the D&D community, but at close to 120,000 members it is a diverse collection of players and would make for a good example of the community as a whole.
For the record, as a filthy casual, I prefer the FR setting only because it's the one I'm developing a general knowledge of, both through tabletop and through video games. I'm not interested in getting into alternate settings right now... accept maybe if they brought back Gamma World just because it sounds silly.
This would be a horrible way to do statistics. Their own website and cons is also bad. You want a true random sample and those places don't result in that.
For the record, as a filthy casual, I prefer the FR setting only because it's the one I'm developing a general knowledge of, both through tabletop and through video games. I'm not interested in getting into alternate settings right now... accept maybe if they brought back Gamma World just because it sounds silly.
This is where you need a campaign guide. It's great to become familiar with a setting but then when the DM isn't as familiar and doesn't have access to those resources it makes the setting less familiar.
So while most players and DMs can go online and get the old stuff, it's not like everyone can. And not everyone can bring those resources to a game.
I am not too concerned with what worlds or settings they develop as I only really play in my own homebrew world. What I would like is for books with player options such as the Volo's Guide and Book of Everything to be more setting neutral so they are easier to add to any world people play.
The pre-made adventures should be made to fit a setting, as each setting has a flavor and feel that dictates the types of adventures that take place there. I just think there are a lot of people would love adventures set in other worlds the way the Curse of Strahd was.
Sword Coast Adventures Guide is a great book for those that want to play in that world and I think a book like that for a handful of other settings like Eberron and Dragonlance would be cool and give those people what they want.
I don't think this will happen unless people ask for it. That is what is really taking place here I think.
Where would you think you would get a better example of the player base than here, their Facebook page or their own site? Reddit I guess, but that is no different than here really.
Where would you think you would get a better example of the player base than here, their Facebook page or their own site? Reddit I guess, but that is no different than here really.
WotC usually prioritizes marketing surveys and localized deep-dive questionnaires over random samplings of self-selected enfranchised players. At least, that's how they do things on their Magic side. They keep on eye on forums and other social media, but I highly doubt this place is moving the needle in any real way. Very few threads here get touched every hour and there are whole sections that haven't seen traffic in days. That may pick back up when Phase 2 launches, but this place is currently dead enough that I can recognize the same ten to twenty-ish people posting......something that should be hard if thousands of people were sharing their thoughts all at once.
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Oh, I think that there is a basic misunderstanding here. I am not looking for a survey that WotC would use for providing products, I am just wondering how we as players of the game could figure out which setting is most popular among ourselves. I have no doubts that anything said here has a minimal impact on the people creating the game if any at all.
Online is just a bad way to get stats in general as the people that likely visit the websites are of a particular type.
Easy example. If the websites asked if you liked 5th edition over pathfinder.... You would expect most people to respond 5th edition because it's on WotC websites. If you asked on Paizos website you would get Pathfinder over 5th. Might be a better sample in Reddit but you have to assume if 20,000 people visit the website there is probably like 50,000+ people that would actually play.
In otherwords the website data is probably weeding out casual players, handcore players who don't visit the websites, new players who don't even know there is a website.
So if you want a truly unbiased result you would need to randomly find random people and ask them.
Oh, I think that there is a basic misunderstanding here. I am not looking for a survey that WotC would use for providing products, I am just wondering how we as players of the game could figure out which setting is most popular among ourselves. I have no doubts that anything said here has a minimal impact on the people creating the game if any at all.
The actual answer I believe is none, followed by Forgotten Realms, followed by everything else. The books and games help FR as well as Greyhawk was less supported. You could do a poll to find out what the people on this forum think, but that would not indicate much.
Sadly I think the forum is going to be dead even once beyond is complete. I think you need the PHB and dmg and monster manual free to drive traffic to the website. As is, it's pointless if you aren't going to spend money here.
I could for example make an excel database with everything for free in about a day and pay nothing so....
And if I wanted it to look pretty it probably wouldn't be that hard to make a quick and dirty interface.
Oh, I think that there is a basic misunderstanding here. I am not looking for a survey that WotC would use for providing products, I am just wondering how we as players of the game could figure out which setting is most popular among ourselves. I have no doubts that anything said here has a minimal impact on the people creating the game if any at all.
The actual answer I believe is none, followed by Forgotten Realms, followed by everything else. The books and games help FR as well as Greyhawk was less supported. You could do a poll to find out what the people on this forum think, but that would not indicate much.
You are most likely correct, it has just become a passing curiosity for me at this point.
For me, I am setting neutral. As long as the adventure is fun with cool ideas I don't care where it is set. I like using prewritten adventures that I tweak and add my own stuff. I just don't have the time to make up a detailed adventure or world from scratch. I am most familiar with Forgotten Realms but it would not bother me if WotC put out a Dragonlance or Grayhawk adventure. If I liked the adventure I would either have my players start up new characters for that setting or find a reason to teleport their character to an alternate dimension. I am all for going to different planes or dimensions or where ever. I just like a nice bit of variety. In fact the crazier and more fantastical the better.
Sadly I think the forum is going to be dead even once beyond is complete. I think you need the PHB and dmg and monster manual free to drive traffic to the website. As is, it's pointless if you aren't going to spend money here.
I could for example make an excel database with everything for free in about a day and pay nothing so....
And if I wanted it to look pretty it probably wouldn't be that hard to make a quick and dirty interface.
Sadly I think the forum is going to be dead even once beyond is complete. I think you need the PHB and dmg and monster manual free to drive traffic to the website. As is, it's pointless if you aren't going to spend money here.
I could for example make an excel database with everything for free in about a day and pay nothing so....
And if I wanted it to look pretty it probably wouldn't be that hard to make a quick and dirty interface.
That's called copyright infringement.
You'd be surprised what you can get away with for "personal use."
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Sadly I think the forum is going to be dead even once beyond is complete. I think you need the PHB and dmg and monster manual free to drive traffic to the website. As is, it's pointless if you aren't going to spend money here.
I could for example make an excel database with everything for free in about a day and pay nothing so....
And if I wanted it to look pretty it probably wouldn't be that hard to make a quick and dirty interface.
That's called copyright infringement.
It's nothing more than fancy notes for my game. The problem would only come into play if I distribute it in any way.
But WotC can rest assured, I have no desire spending a day typing everything.
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Statistics are indeed credible evidence in determining a consensus of popularity. That is why WotC uses it as a means to test new material and to gather feedback. This may only be a small sample size of the D&D community, but at close to 120,000 members it is a diverse collection of players and would make for a good example of the community as a whole.
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For the record, as a filthy casual, I prefer the FR setting only because it's the one I'm developing a general knowledge of, both through tabletop and through video games. I'm not interested in getting into alternate settings right now... accept maybe if they brought back Gamma World just because it sounds silly.
This would be a horrible way to do statistics. Their own website and cons is also bad. You want a true random sample and those places don't result in that.
I am not too concerned with what worlds or settings they develop as I only really play in my own homebrew world. What I would like is for books with player options such as the Volo's Guide and Book of Everything to be more setting neutral so they are easier to add to any world people play.
The pre-made adventures should be made to fit a setting, as each setting has a flavor and feel that dictates the types of adventures that take place there. I just think there are a lot of people would love adventures set in other worlds the way the Curse of Strahd was.
Sword Coast Adventures Guide is a great book for those that want to play in that world and I think a book like that for a handful of other settings like Eberron and Dragonlance would be cool and give those people what they want.
I don't think this will happen unless people ask for it. That is what is really taking place here I think.
She/Her College Student Player and Dungeon Master
Where would you think you would get a better example of the player base than here, their Facebook page or their own site? Reddit I guess, but that is no different than here really.
She/Her College Student Player and Dungeon Master
Oh, I think that there is a basic misunderstanding here. I am not looking for a survey that WotC would use for providing products, I am just wondering how we as players of the game could figure out which setting is most popular among ourselves. I have no doubts that anything said here has a minimal impact on the people creating the game if any at all.
She/Her College Student Player and Dungeon Master
Online is just a bad way to get stats in general as the people that likely visit the websites are of a particular type.
Easy example. If the websites asked if you liked 5th edition over pathfinder.... You would expect most people to respond 5th edition because it's on WotC websites. If you asked on Paizos website you would get Pathfinder over 5th. Might be a better sample in Reddit but you have to assume if 20,000 people visit the website there is probably like 50,000+ people that would actually play.
In otherwords the website data is probably weeding out casual players, handcore players who don't visit the websites, new players who don't even know there is a website.
So if you want a truly unbiased result you would need to randomly find random people and ask them.
Sadly I think the forum is going to be dead even once beyond is complete. I think you need the PHB and dmg and monster manual free to drive traffic to the website. As is, it's pointless if you aren't going to spend money here.
I could for example make an excel database with everything for free in about a day and pay nothing so....
And if I wanted it to look pretty it probably wouldn't be that hard to make a quick and dirty interface.
So what is being said is we as players can't get an idea of what settings are popular among ourselves.
She/Her College Student Player and Dungeon Master
She/Her College Student Player and Dungeon Master
For me, I am setting neutral. As long as the adventure is fun with cool ideas I don't care where it is set. I like using prewritten adventures that I tweak and add my own stuff. I just don't have the time to make up a detailed adventure or world from scratch. I am most familiar with Forgotten Realms but it would not bother me if WotC put out a Dragonlance or Grayhawk adventure. If I liked the adventure I would either have my players start up new characters for that setting or find a reason to teleport their character to an alternate dimension. I am all for going to different planes or dimensions or where ever. I just like a nice bit of variety. In fact the crazier and more fantastical the better.