Here's my thoughts. FYI I won't ever mention the lore changes again. Cause the thing does indeed mutilate or contradict the very few bits of Tolkien's story that are in it. Yes, it makes the Hobbit look absolutely amazing. Yes, it totally destroys the lore. But we can't change that so I'm just gonna ignore it and not even think about it.
So, the good. It's visually amazing. Stunning. It really goes to show what thousands of CGI artists working in sweatshop conditions can do when they're suitably "motivated". Aaand yeah, that's about it. If you turn your brain off and just watch the pretty picture, you will enjoy about three quarters of the show and be bored in the rest.
Oh and the plot is good too. Nothing amazing, but it's a decent storyline.
Now let's get into the cons. I'm gonna have to break it down, there's so many.
Firstly, the dialogue sucked. They’re desperately trying to do Tolkien’s grandiose prosy language, but they evidently lack the intellectual capacity of the Professor. Tolkien had hidden meanings, metaphors, and truly great points in his grandiose speeches. RoP is just spouting utter bullshit, and when they do have a point it’s something like “gravity exists”. It’s clunky and honestly boring at times. It takes every elf an hour to say anything and I nearly fell asleep waiting. Oh yeah, and the fake Irish accents of the Harfoots and the fake Scottish accents of the dwarves are awful. And the Harfoots repeatedly use modern language like “OK”, which I hate cause it totally sucks you out of the immersion and really just shows the writers didn’t give a damn.
Next there are the characters, which are currently awful but I think they’re gonna evolve into the characters we know, which is great. Elrond is a wimp, but there’s a bit where he doesn’t take Galadriel being her typical rude entitled self to him and stands up to her. Is it possible that meek wimpy politician Elrond might eventually turn into the REAL ELROND, the ass-kicking army leading soldier of the Second A… Oh wait that’s Galadriel, yeah apparently they just gave his role to her for no reason. Ok. Galadriel is obviously nothing like she’s supposed to be, but is she a good character? Maybe. She’s kinda rude, and has a sort of sense of entitlement that makes you dislike her. But, other characters at least tell her off for this, so we can be assured this is intentional and she’ll grow as a character and move past it, unlike Captain Marvel where they try to pretend like it’s perfectly acceptable behaviour. The Harfoot Nori is fine, tho I hate that she has a dwarven name of a character from the Hobbit and that she’s literally Bilbo/Frodo 2.0. It really lessens the impact of LotR, which was supposed to be about the Hobbits adventuring and affecting stuff for the first time ever, so RoP just undid the entire point of the great trilogy they’re supposed to be doing a sequel for… Great job mates, great job. Oh and black elf guy (can’t remember his name), his whole point seems to be to be an allegory for black people. He goes into a bar and gets shouted at that his people are a disgrace and awful and he should get out of here. I think they’re trying to tell us something mate! Real subtle Amazon, real subtle. Anyway I’m indifferent to his whole existence, he only seems to be here cause Amazon want to have a diverse cast so they can say “hey look we’re nice people see!” Isn’t it great when one of the evilest companies on the planet tries to pretend they’re nice people. Yeah it’s ******* awesome, it makes me sick with happiness. Oh, and I don’t like Durin cause he’s a petty arse who is being a dick cause ElRoNd dIDn’T CoME tO HiS wEDdiNg. That’s ******* mature, the future king of the entire Dwarven race decided to **** up a whole alliance out of spite. Hey, he seems to be the same kind of leader as “oh what, dude is dying? Yeah just leave him, don’t help him, just keep going despite having no reason we shouldn’t stop!” Galadriel. And it’s annoying that every race’s main character is female (the elves have Galadriel, the Harfoots have Nori, and humans have Bronwen and apparently Queen Miriel, while the dwarves have... Oh wait the dwarf main character is male! Whoopee!). Yeah Middle Earth needs more girls, I've always said that. But having every main character be female? That's overkill. Oh, and the acting is generally weak overall. I'm not surprised, as the actors are pretty much all nobodies.
Let’s talk about the action scene. Man, why is that so bad? First of all the armour and weapons look ridiculous and obviously wouldn’t work. The reason everyone loved the LotR fight scenes is cause they were realistic folks! The fight choreography is bad. People literally just stand there waiting to be hit. Galadriel does ridiculous moves that are clearly trying to imitate the fancy blade flips, spins, and twirls of the LotR elves. The problem is Galadriel just does that for 10 WHOLE SECONDS at thin air! She’s not hitting anything, she’s spinning her sword at very obviously thin air! Anyway yeah it needs work. Hopefully it’ll get better as the show goes on. And don’t look at the soldiers behind Galadriel’s bro in the battle scene, they’re an embarrassment to background fighters. At least put a bit of effort in Amazon!
Anyway my main opinion is that it kinda sucks, but there's potential. The problems mostly seem down to bad writers and directors, so hopefully they'll get better (or get replaced) as the show goes on. And the actors will improve (I hope). Shows always take a bit to find their stride, so I think this could be ok. It'll always mutilate Tolkien lore, but it might be a decent show. You never know.
Oh and one last gripe: The elves look awful. They do not look young, hot, slender, and long-haired like they’re supposed to. They just look like humans with pointy ears. The other races look fine, but the elves look awful. Except Galadriel, she looks good.
Ok so I watched the first couple episodes just cause I wanted something to laugh at and turns out yeah it's kinda shit, but there is potential.
That’s good to hear!
Which means it will always it will always mutilate and be an insult to the lore of Tolkien, but it might be a decent show if you ignore that. Which I can't. So I'll probably tolerate it at best.
I’m sick of this crap, I liked the show because I’m a kid and I don’t care. It was awesome and it had amazing graphics. You guys are being close minded about it, it’s a show that Amazon made, did you think it was going to be some perfect recreation of Tolkiens vision? I mean, everything has some aspects that aren’t as good. But I’m probably gonna continue to like it.
I’m sick of this crap, I liked the show because I’m a kid and I don’t care. It was awesome and it had amazing graphics. You guys are being close minded about it, it’s a show that Amazon made, did you think it was going to be some perfect recreation of Tolkiens vision? I mean, everything has some aspects that aren’t as good. But I’m probably gonna continue to like it.
Mate I just said I'm past caring about the lore changes. Go ahead, like it! I can guarantee most kids will, cause you probably won't notice the bad acting, clunky dialogue, terrible characters, and bad writing. And all those criticisms will most likely be fixed over time, so it'll be probably be a decent show and I'll like it too.
Haha my sisters know many of the stunt people in RoP.
Great, tell them to tell them they need to do their job better as that fight is embarrassing.
Lol, you ever watched Wonder Woman? The Lord of the Rings? The Hobbit? Its the exact same people.
They were all awesome, why does the one fight scene in RoP suck then? Weird. Guess it's the writers fault.
Could be anyone. TBH the fact that you watched it and aren't stupendously outraged is encouraging.
Yeah, that's what I thought myself tbh. I thought I'd be driving down to Amazon with a pitchfork and torch by the end of it but I was just kinda like eh it's no worse then most of the sludge Hollywood churns out. The main thing is that I've stopped caring about the lore changes tho so that's made a world of difference.
I’m sick of this crap, I liked the show because I’m a kid and I don’t care. It was awesome and it had amazing graphics. You guys are being close minded about it, it’s a show that Amazon made, did you think it was going to be some perfect recreation of Tolkiens vision? I mean, everything has some aspects that aren’t as good. But I’m probably gonna continue to like it.
Mate I just said I'm past caring about the lore changes. Go ahead, like it! I can guarantee most kids will, cause you probably won't notice the bad acting, clunky dialogue, terrible characters, and bad writing. And all those criticisms will most likely be fixed over time, so it'll be probably be a decent show and I'll like it too.
Oh and one last gripe: The elves look awful. They do not look young, hot, slender, and long-haired like they’re supposed to. They just look like humans with pointy ears. The other races look fine, but the elves look awful. Except Galadriel, she looks good.
Oh and one last gripe: The elves look awful. They do not look young, hot, slender, and long-haired like they’re supposed to. They just look like humans with pointy ears. The other races look fine, but the elves look awful. Except Galadriel, she looks good.
At least Galadriel looks good. There’s a silver lining 😊.
I’m sick of this crap, I liked the show because I’m a kid and I don’t care. It was awesome and it had amazing graphics. You guys are being close minded about it, it’s a show that Amazon made, did you think it was going to be some perfect recreation of Tolkiens vision? I mean, everything has some aspects that aren’t as good. But I’m probably gonna continue to like it.
Mate I just said I'm past caring about the lore changes. Go ahead, like it! I can guarantee most kids will, cause you probably won't notice the bad acting, clunky dialogue, terrible characters, and bad writing. And all those criticisms will most likely be fixed over time, so it'll be probably be a decent show and I'll like it too.
Oh and one last gripe: The elves look awful. They do not look young, hot, slender, and long-haired like they’re supposed to. They just look like humans with pointy ears. The other races look fine, but the elves look awful. Except Galadriel, she looks good.
At least Galadriel looks good. There’s a silver lining 😊.
Yeah. Heck, she might even be a decent character eventually! Or maybe not, but you never know. Maybe I’ll even like her.
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Ok so I watched the first couple episodes just cause I wanted something to laugh at and turns out yeah it's kinda shit, but there is potential.
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That’s good to hear!
That's more good feedback from you than I'm used to haha
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Here's my thoughts. FYI I won't ever mention the lore changes again. Cause the thing does indeed mutilate or contradict the very few bits of Tolkien's story that are in it. Yes, it makes the Hobbit look absolutely amazing. Yes, it totally destroys the lore. But we can't change that so I'm just gonna ignore it and not even think about it.
So, the good. It's visually amazing. Stunning. It really goes to show what thousands of CGI artists working in sweatshop conditions can do when they're suitably "motivated". Aaand yeah, that's about it. If you turn your brain off and just watch the pretty picture, you will enjoy about three quarters of the show and be bored in the rest.
Oh and the plot is good too. Nothing amazing, but it's a decent storyline.
Now let's get into the cons. I'm gonna have to break it down, there's so many.
Firstly, the dialogue sucked. They’re desperately trying to do Tolkien’s grandiose prosy language, but they evidently lack the intellectual capacity of the Professor. Tolkien had hidden meanings, metaphors, and truly great points in his grandiose speeches. RoP is just spouting utter bullshit, and when they do have a point it’s something like “gravity exists”. It’s clunky and honestly boring at times. It takes every elf an hour to say anything and I nearly fell asleep waiting. Oh yeah, and the fake Irish accents of the Harfoots and the fake Scottish accents of the dwarves are awful. And the Harfoots repeatedly use modern language like “OK”, which I hate cause it totally sucks you out of the immersion and really just shows the writers didn’t give a damn.
Next there are the characters, which are currently awful but I think they’re gonna evolve into the characters we know, which is great. Elrond is a wimp, but there’s a bit where he doesn’t take Galadriel being her typical rude entitled self to him and stands up to her. Is it possible that meek wimpy politician Elrond might eventually turn into the REAL ELROND, the ass-kicking army leading soldier of the Second A… Oh wait that’s Galadriel, yeah apparently they just gave his role to her for no reason. Ok. Galadriel is obviously nothing like she’s supposed to be, but is she a good character? Maybe. She’s kinda rude, and has a sort of sense of entitlement that makes you dislike her. But, other characters at least tell her off for this, so we can be assured this is intentional and she’ll grow as a character and move past it, unlike Captain Marvel where they try to pretend like it’s perfectly acceptable behaviour. The Harfoot Nori is fine, tho I hate that she has a dwarven name of a character from the Hobbit and that she’s literally Bilbo/Frodo 2.0. It really lessens the impact of LotR, which was supposed to be about the Hobbits adventuring and affecting stuff for the first time ever, so RoP just undid the entire point of the great trilogy they’re supposed to be doing a sequel for… Great job mates, great job. Oh and black elf guy (can’t remember his name), his whole point seems to be to be an allegory for black people. He goes into a bar and gets shouted at that his people are a disgrace and awful and he should get out of here. I think they’re trying to tell us something mate! Real subtle Amazon, real subtle. Anyway I’m indifferent to his whole existence, he only seems to be here cause Amazon want to have a diverse cast so they can say “hey look we’re nice people see!” Isn’t it great when one of the evilest companies on the planet tries to pretend they’re nice people. Yeah it’s ******* awesome, it makes me sick with happiness. Oh, and I don’t like Durin cause he’s a petty arse who is being a dick cause ElRoNd dIDn’T CoME tO HiS wEDdiNg. That’s ******* mature, the future king of the entire Dwarven race decided to **** up a whole alliance out of spite. Hey, he seems to be the same kind of leader as “oh what, dude is dying? Yeah just leave him, don’t help him, just keep going despite having no reason we shouldn’t stop!” Galadriel. And it’s annoying that every race’s main character is female (the elves have Galadriel, the Harfoots have Nori, and humans have Bronwen and apparently Queen Miriel, while the dwarves have... Oh wait the dwarf main character is male! Whoopee!). Yeah Middle Earth needs more girls, I've always said that. But having every main character be female? That's overkill. Oh, and the acting is generally weak overall. I'm not surprised, as the actors are pretty much all nobodies.
Let’s talk about the action scene. Man, why is that so bad? First of all the armour and weapons look ridiculous and obviously wouldn’t work. The reason everyone loved the LotR fight scenes is cause they were realistic folks! The fight choreography is bad. People literally just stand there waiting to be hit. Galadriel does ridiculous moves that are clearly trying to imitate the fancy blade flips, spins, and twirls of the LotR elves. The problem is Galadriel just does that for 10 WHOLE SECONDS at thin air! She’s not hitting anything, she’s spinning her sword at very obviously thin air! Anyway yeah it needs work. Hopefully it’ll get better as the show goes on. And don’t look at the soldiers behind Galadriel’s bro in the battle scene, they’re an embarrassment to background fighters. At least put a bit of effort in Amazon!
Anyway my main opinion is that it kinda sucks, but there's potential. The problems mostly seem down to bad writers and directors, so hopefully they'll get better (or get replaced) as the show goes on. And the actors will improve (I hope). Shows always take a bit to find their stride, so I think this could be ok. It'll always mutilate Tolkien lore, but it might be a decent show. You never know.
Oh and one last gripe: The elves look awful. They do not look young, hot, slender, and long-haired like they’re supposed to. They just look like humans with pointy ears. The other races look fine, but the elves look awful. Except Galadriel, she looks good.
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Which means it will always it will always mutilate and be an insult to the lore of Tolkien, but it might be a decent show if you ignore that. Which I can't. So I'll probably tolerate it at best.
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Haha my sisters know many of the stunt people in RoP.
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Great, tell them to tell them they need to do their job better as that fight is embarrassing.
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Lol, you ever watched Wonder Woman? The Lord of the Rings? The Hobbit? Its the exact same people.
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They were all awesome, why does the one fight scene in RoP suck then? Weird. Guess it's the writers fault.
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Could be anyone. TBH the fact that you watched it and aren't stupendously outraged is encouraging.
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I’m sick of this crap, I liked the show because I’m a kid and I don’t care. It was awesome and it had amazing graphics. You guys are being close minded about it, it’s a show that Amazon made, did you think it was going to be some perfect recreation of Tolkiens vision? I mean, everything has some aspects that aren’t as good. But I’m probably gonna continue to like it.
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Mate I just said I'm past caring about the lore changes. Go ahead, like it! I can guarantee most kids will, cause you probably won't notice the bad acting, clunky dialogue, terrible characters, and bad writing. And all those criticisms will most likely be fixed over time, so it'll be probably be a decent show and I'll like it too.
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Yeah, that's what I thought myself tbh. I thought I'd be driving down to Amazon with a pitchfork and torch by the end of it but I was just kinda like eh it's no worse then most of the sludge Hollywood churns out. The main thing is that I've stopped caring about the lore changes tho so that's made a world of difference.
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Alright. Uh, sorry about that then.
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Oh and one last gripe: The elves look awful. They do not look young, hot, slender, and long-haired like they’re supposed to. They just look like humans with pointy ears. The other races look fine, but the elves look awful. Except Galadriel, she looks good.
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At least Galadriel looks good. There’s a silver lining 😊.
No problem.
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Yeah. Heck, she might even be a decent character eventually! Or maybe not, but you never know. Maybe I’ll even like her.
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Ok Lego, you can do this. Be nice. You can do this.
D-d-does anyone want to talk about RoP? Theorize stuff? Take guesses at future events?
AAAAAAAAA I CAN’T BELIEVE I SAID THAT HOLD ON I NEED A MOMENT TO GO DIE.
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