Anything BUT whatever dumb ass 💩 WotC has recently done or is currently doing, literally ANYTHING

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For folks who have played D&D for awhile - is there a setting you prefer (Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Ravenloft, Forgotten Realms - Homebrew, aside) - if so, why?

For the folks newer to D&D - what is you've discovered you've enjoyed about the setting you're playing in (whatever it may be)?

 

 My favorites are indisputably Eberron and Dragonlancr, though Dragonlance takes the cake; it simply has better fiction. Following it is Dark Sun. Athas is one of the most unique published settings and I adore the design behind it. Unfortunately, it was never reprinted in 5e, but I see why. I don’t believe in WotC’s statements about sensitive topics in it; I think it would just be hard to translate a setting with strong character restrictions (in some ways) into the most free and rules-lite edition.

To give credit where it is due, the Forgotten Realms and Theros are also amazing settings; If you haven’t heard, there’s more where Theros (and Ravnica and Strixhaven) came from! Check out the BEST expansions for D&D right here: Plane Shift! I’m a big Magic: the Gathering player (when WotC treats an IP well, it treats it well! [except the over focus on commander, but I digress] Poor D&D is missing out on the massive releases Magic gets.) so I absolutely love seeing these classic settings in 5e. Now I just need Tarkir…

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For folks who have played D&D for awhile - is there a setting you prefer (Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Ravenloft, Forgotten Realms - Homebrew, aside) - if so, why?

For the folks newer to D&D - what is you've discovered you've enjoyed about the setting you're playing in (whatever it may be)?

 

 I absolutely love the idea of Ravenloft, I got Van Richten’s as soon as I heard about it. Second place is probably spelljammer (part of that being space clowns and the new dragons) and I don’t know if it counts so I’m not officially including it, otherwise it would have been top spot, but the feywild and just the domains of delight and everything like WBTWL is soo cool I love it so much. Prismeer is great and Iggwilv is my favorite official monster statblock and the idea of the three hags and their designs and everything I LOVE IT.

Question: have you ever had a dnd moment that makes less sense with context?

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For folks who have played D&D for awhile - is there a setting you prefer (Dark Sun, Dragonlance, Ravenloft, Forgotten Realms - Homebrew, aside) - if so, why?

For the folks newer to D&D - what is you've discovered you've enjoyed about the setting you're playing in (whatever it may be)?

 

 I actually use a custom setting which combines all of them, aside from dark sun.

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Question: have you ever had a dnd moment that makes less sense with context?

 How could anything make less sense with context?

I have no preference for setting as long as it makes sense.

If someone were to ask you to summarize this entire thread (230 pages!) in 3 sentences - what would you say/how would you describe it?

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Question: have you ever had a dnd moment that makes less sense with context?

 How could anything make less sense with context?

 Like a conversation that is normal, but feels insane with the context.

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If someone were to ask you to summarize this entire thread (230 pages!) in 3 sentences - what would you say/how would you describe it?

1.  It’s just like real life, it includes absolutely anything and everything that comes your way, it’s got its quirks, its ebbs and flows, ups and downs, highs and lows (which are not the same things),  and its success and failures.
2. It’s like an old friend, comfortable, familiar, honest, reliable, copacetic, without any pressure to or expectations that you keep in constant contact, but always there when you need it and picks up just as if you’ve never stopped.
3. In short, it’s a beautiful, wonderful thing, and Im glad it exists.

General question, not necessarily of the day as it were: Is anyone here relatively familiar with M:tG (the card game, not the D&D settings), and is willing to look over some monsters I created as imports to D&D? I could use some fresh eyes on things and outside perspectives as to how I tried to express and represent their M:tG mechanics within D&D’s action economy and relative CR scaling (for what CR is worth at any rate 🙄).

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General question, not necessarily of the day as it were: Is anyone here relatively familiar with M:tG (the card game, not the D&D settings), and is willing to look over some monsters I created as imports to D&D? I could use some fresh eyes on things and outside perspectives as to how I tried to express and represent their M:tG mechanics within D&D’s action economy and relative CR scaling (for what CR is worth at any rate 🙄).

 That would definitely not be me. Only ever played MtG once.

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General question, not necessarily of the day as it were: Is anyone here relatively familiar with M:tG (the card game, not the D&D settings),

YES! I actually create decks for fun lol and can share some with you if you want. :)

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and is willing to look over some monsters I created as imports to D&D? I could use some fresh eyes on things and outside perspectives as to how I tried to express and represent their M:tG mechanics within D&D’s action economy and relative CR scaling (for what CR is worth at any rate 🙄).

Sure, though I suck at understanding whether or not things match with their CR because I don't really understanding the building a monster system.

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General question, not necessarily of the day as it were: Is anyone here relatively familiar with M:tG (the card game, not the D&D settings), and is willing to look over some monsters I created as imports to D&D? I could use some fresh eyes on things and outside perspectives as to how I tried to express and represent their M:tG mechanics within D&D’s action economy and relative CR scaling (for what CR is worth at any rate 🙄).

 Yes, very familiar with the game it you're talking 5 or more years ago. 

The ramp up of power in MtG and CR are very different. MtG mana cost for creature power/life seems at first a straight scale up, but in reality is more geometric/multiplicative. 

Brown bear is 2G and 2/2. Red Dragon is 4+2R and 4/4 flying, breath weapon.

In D&D Brown bear is CR1 and Red Dragon is CR 10+ 

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General question, not necessarily of the day as it were: Is anyone here relatively familiar with M:tG (the card game, not the D&D settings), and is willing to look over some monsters I created as imports to D&D? I could use some fresh eyes on things and outside perspectives as to how I tried to express and represent their M:tG mechanics within D&D’s action economy and relative CR scaling (for what CR is worth at any rate 🙄).

 I love MTG and anything from it! I’d happily take a look

Awesome!! Thanks guys, I really appreciate the assist.

Bard, I used to build decks for fun myself, but then all of my friends either stopped playing or life happened to them and so I stopped because I saw no further point to it since I had nobody to play with anymore. However, we could definitely swap deck designs if you’d like. None of mine are type-2 legal by any stretch of the imagination, but they should all still be type-1 legal unless they changed the banned & restricted lists again.

Wysp, yeah, I’m well aware. To your point I spent some time employing my general life motto* towards figuring out a conversion. After several attempts I eventually settled on what I think is a decent system that at least captures the overall feeling of how things in M:tG scale, if not the exact multipliers. I’ll share the conversion chart I used when I post the monsters in a little while.

*(Efff around and find out.)

Amnon, perfect. I was hoping someone in here was a current enthusiast.

Thanks for the help, all of you. I really appreciate it. I’ll post again soon with my conversion chart, a little info on my theorycraft as to how and why I did things the way I did, and all of the statblocks with links to the original cards for comparison.

I also play Magic and have critiqued my fair share of custom cards.

Awesome. The more the merrier!

M:tG —> D&D Conversions

First off, thank you all again for doing this for me. I apologize for the delay in posting this, but life happens. Wadaya gonna do? Right? Anyhoo, here’s a brief short, short version of some designer notes, followed by the good stuff.

Anyway, here are the statblocks, and along with each one is a link to the official M:tG database entry for the card that inspired it. If you have any questions about how I interpreted the M:tG mechanics as D&D’s Action Economy, please don’t hesitate to ask. Okay, have at ‘em, I hope you enjoy. I look forward to reading your feedback.

Saproling: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=209162)

M:tG Saproling

Tiny Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 11 (natural armor)

Hit Points 5 (2d4)

Speed 30 ft.

STR

7 (-2)

DEX

10 (+0)

CON

11 (+0)

INT

6 (-2)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

6 (-2)

Damage Vulnerabilities Fire, Slashing

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 10

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 0 (10 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the saproling remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a normal fungus or plant.

Actions

Slash. Melee Weapon Attack: +2 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 2 (1d4) slashing damage.

Feral Thallid: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=184485)

M:tG Feral Thallid

Medium Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 14 (natural armor)

Hit Points 58 (9d8 + 18)

Speed 35 ft.

STR

16 (+3)

DEX

14 (+2)

CON

15 (+2)

INT

7 (-2)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

7 (-2)

Skills Perception +2

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 12

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 3 (700 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the thallid remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a normal fungus or plant.

Actions

Multiattack. The feral thallid makes three slam attacks.

Slam. Melee Weapon Attack: +5 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 10 (2d6 + 3) bludgeoning damage.

Reactions

Fungal Regeneration (Recharge 5—6). When the feral thallid is reduced to 0 hit points but not killed outright, it immediately regains 20 hit points.

Savage Thallid: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=106643)

M:tG Savage Thallid

Large Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 14 (natural armor)

Hit Points 30 (4d10 + 8)

Speed 30 ft.

STR

15 (+2)

DEX

14 (+2)

CON

14 (+2)

INT

6 (-2)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

6 (-2)

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 10

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 2 (450 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the thallid remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a normal fungus or plant.

Actions

Multiattack. The savage thallid makes three slam attacks.

Slam. Melee Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 7 (2d4 + 2) bludgeoning damage.

Bonus Actions

Spawn Saproling (Recharge 5—6). The thallid creates a saproling, which appears in the nearest unoccupied space within 10 ft. of the thallid, and is friendly to its creator.

Reactions

Consumptive Regeneration. When the savage thallid is reduced to 0 hit points but not killed outright, it can consume an saproling that is within 5 ft. and immediately regains 10 hit points.

Spore Flower: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=184521)

M:tG Spore Flower (Thallid)

Small Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 10

Hit Points 35 (10d6)

Speed 10 ft.

STR

10 (+0)

DEX

10 (+0)

CON

10 (+0)

INT

6 (-2)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

6 (-2)

Saving Throws INT +0, CHA +0

Skills Perception +2, Stealth +2

Damage Resistances Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing from Nonmagical Attacks that aren't Silvered

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 12

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 1/4 (50 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the spore flower remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a normal fungus or plant.

Actions

Slam. Melee Weapon Attack: +2 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 1 bludgeoning damage.

Reactions

Emit Spores (Recharge 5—6). Creatures within 30 ft. of the spore flower cannot deal damage of any kind until the start of the spore flower’s next turn.

*Note: I know it’s not actually a “thallid,” but there’s no “fungus” monster subtype in DDB’s system and I needed to designate it as one of the gang for some other cards monsters to interact properly.

Sporesower Thallid: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=509596)

M:tG Sporesower Thallid

Medium Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 14 (natural armor)

Hit Points 66 (12d8 + 12)

Speed 30 ft.

STR

14 (+2)

DEX

12 (+1)

CON

13 (+1)

INT

7 (-2)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

7 (-2)

Skills Survival +2

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 10

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 1 (200 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the thallid remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a normal fungus or plant.

Sporesower. Any friendly thallid that starts its turn within 30 ft. of the sporesower thallid and has an action or trait with limited uses that have a Recharge Notation of “X—Y” (including the sporesower thallid itself), the X number decreases by 1 for that action or trait until the start of that creature’s next turn. If the creature has more than one action or trait with an X—Y Recharge Notation, it chooses which action or trait gains this benefit each turn. For example, if a qualifying creature has an action listing “Recharge 5–6” as its recharge notation, it becomes “Recharge 4–6” until the start of that creature’s next turn.

Actions

Multiattack. The thallid makes three slam attacks on its turn.

Slam. Melee Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 5 (1d6 + 2) bludgeoning damage.

Bonus Actions

Spawn Saproling (Recharge 5—6). The thallid creates a saproling, which appears in the nearest unoccupied space within 10 ft. of the thallid, and is friendly to its creator.

Sporoloth Ancient: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=509597)

M:tG Sporoloth Ancient (Thallid)

Huge Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 15 (natural armor)

Hit Points 68 (8d12 + 16)

Speed 20 ft.

STR

18 (+4)

DEX

7 (-2)

CON

15 (+2)

INT

8 (-1)

WIS

14 (+2)

CHA

10 (+0)

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 12

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 3 (700 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the sporoloth remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a giant fungus or normal tree.

Sporoloth Sporesowing. Each friendly creature that starts its turn within 30 ft. of the sporoloth ancient gains the ancient's Spawning Acceleration bonus action.

Actions

Slam. Melee Weapon Attack: +6 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 14 (3d6 + 4) bludgeoning damage.

Bonus Actions

Spawning Acceleration (Recharge 4—6). This creature creates a saproling, which appears in the nearest unoccupied space within 10 ft. of this creature, and is friendly to its creator.

*Note: I know it’s not actually a “thallid,” but there’s no “fungus” monster subtype in DDB’s system and I needed to designate it as one of the gang for some other cards monsters to interact properly.

Thallid: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=370352)

M:tG Thallid

Small Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 12 (natural armor)

Hit Points 7 (2d6)

Speed 30 ft.

STR

10 (+0)

DEX

12 (+1)

CON

11 (+0)

INT

8 (-1)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

8 (-1)

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 10

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 1/8 (25 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the thallid remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a normal fungus or plant.

Actions

Slash. Melee Weapon Attack: +3 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 4 (1d6 + 1) slashing damage.

Bonus Actions

Spawn Saproling (Recharge 5—6). The thallid creates a saproling, which appears in the nearest unoccupied space within 10 ft. of the thallid, and is friendly to its creator.

Thallid Devourer: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=184527)

M:tG Thallid Devourer

Medium Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 13 (natural armor)

Hit Points 33 (6d8 + 6)

Speed 30 ft.

STR

14 (+2)

DEX

12 (+1)

CON

13 (+1)

INT

6 (-2)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

6 (-2)

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 10

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 1/2 (100 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the thallid remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a normal fungus or plant.

Actions

Slam. Melee Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 6 (1d8 + 2) bludgeoning damage.

Bonus Actions

Spawn Saproling (Recharge 5—6). The thallid creates a saproling, which appears in the nearest unoccupied space within 10 ft. of the thallid, and is friendly to its creator.

Reactions

Devourer Saproling (Version A?). The devourer can consume a saproling that is within 5 ft. and gains 10 temporary hit points and the ability to make two slam attacks as an action on its turn instead of one. These benefits last until the end of the devourer’s next turn.

Devourer Saproling (Version B?). The devourer can consume any number of saprolings that are within 5 ft., for each saproling consumed in this way, the devourer’s current and maximum hit points increase by 10 and if it makes a slam attack as an action on its turn it makes one additional slam attack. These benefits last until the end of the devourer’s next turn.

Thallid Germinator: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=509601)

M:tG Thallid Germinator

Medium Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 13 (natural armor)

Hit Points 33 (6d8 + 6)

Speed 30 ft.

STR

10 (+0)

DEX

14 (+2)

CON

13 (+1)

INT

7 (-2)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

7 (-2)

Skills Nature +2

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 10

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 1/2 (100 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the thallid remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a normal fungus or plant.

Actions

Slash. Melee Weapon Attack: +4 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 5 (1d6 + 2) slashing damage.

Bonus Actions

Spawn Saproling (Recharge 5—6). The thallid creates a saproling, which appears in the nearest unoccupied space within 10 ft. of the thallid, and is friendly to its creator.

Reactions

Germinate. The thallid germinator consumes a saproling within 5 ft. and targets a friendly plant creature that it can see within within 30 ft. of itself. Until the start of the germinator’s next turn, that creature’s Strength and Constitution scores each increase by 2, as do its maximums for those scores.

Thallid Shell Dweller: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=509602)

M:tG Thallid Shell-Dweller

Large Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 15 (natural armor)

Hit Points 67 (9d10 + 18)

Speed 10 ft.

STR

16 (+3)

DEX

10 (+0)

CON

15 (+2)

INT

6 (-2)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

6 (-2)

Saving Throws INT +0, CHA +0

Skills Athletics +5

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 10

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 1/4 (50 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

Defender. The shell-dweller cannot make attacks of any kind, including unarmed strikes, but can still Grapple and Shove other creatures.

False Appearance. While the thallid remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a giant fungus or plant.

Bonus Actions

Spawn Saproling (Recharge 5—6). The thallid creates a saproling, which appears in the nearest unoccupied space within 10 ft. of the thallid, and is friendly to its creator.

Thorn Thallid: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=159196)

M:tG Thorn Thallid

Medium Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 13

Hit Points 33 (6d8 + 6)

Speed 20 ft.

STR

12 (+1)

DEX

16 (+3)

CON

13 (+1)

INT

7 (-2)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

7 (-2)

Skills Perception +2

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 12

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 1/2 (100 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the thallid remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a normal fungus or plant.

Actions

Slam. Melee Weapon Attack: +3 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 4 (1d6 + 1) bludgeoning damage.

Bonus Actions

Eject Thorn (Recharge 5—6). Dexterity Saving Throw: DC 13, one target within 60 ft., Failed Save: 5 (1d4 + 3)piercing damage, plus 5 (2d4) poison damage. Successful Save: half damage.

Utopia Mycon: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=509609)

M:tG Utopia Mycon (Thallid)

Small Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 12

Hit Points 36 (8d6 + 8)

Speed 20 ft.

STR

10 (+0)

DEX

14 (+2)

CON

13 (+1)

INT

7 (-2)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

7 (-2)

Saving Throws INT +0, CHA +0

Skills Arcana +2, Perception +2

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 12

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 1/8 (25 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the mycon remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a normal fungus or plant.

Actions

Channel Utopia. The utopia mycon can consume a saproling that is within 5 ft. and target a friendly creature it can see within 30 ft. of itself. The target creature immediately regains either one 1st-level spell slot, or the ability to cast a single 1st-level spell it has previously cast since the end of its last long rest. If that creature has not spent that spell slot or cast that spell by the start of the utopia mycon’s next turn, that creature looses that slot or spell and 1d4 hit points. This loss of hit points cannot be prevented or reduced in any way.

Slam. Melee Weapon Attack: +2 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 1 bludgeoning damage.

Bonus Actions

Spawn Saproling (Recharge 5—6). The mycon creates a saproling, which appears in the nearest unoccupied space within 10 ft. of the mycon, and is friendly to its creator.

*Note: I know it’s not actually a “thallid,” but there’s no “fungus” monster subtype in DDB’s system and I needed to designate it as one of the gang for some other cards monsters to interact properly.

Vitaspore Thallid: (https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=128941)

M:tG Vitaspore Thallid

Medium Plant, Unaligned

Armor Class 12 (natural armor)

Hit Points 6 (1d8 + 2)

Speed 25 ft.

STR

12 (+1)

DEX

10 (+0)

CON

14 (+2)

INT

8 (-1)

WIS

10 (+0)

CHA

8 (-1)

Senses Blindsight 30 ft., Passive Perception 10

Languages Sylvan and one language known by its creator (usually Elvish)

Challenge 1/4 (50 XP)

 

Proficiency Bonus +2

False Appearance. While the thallid remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from a normal fungus or plant.

Actions

Slam. Melee Weapon Attack: +3 to hit, reach 5 ft., one target. Hit: 4 (1d6 + 1) bludgeoning damage.

Bonus Actions

Spawn Saproling (Recharge 5—6). The thallid creates a saproling, which appears in the nearest unoccupied space within 10 ft. of the thallid, and is friendly to its creator.

Reactions

Invigorating Spores. The vitaspore thallid consumes a saproling within 5 ft. and targets a friendly creature it can see within 30 ft. of itself. Until the start of the vitaspore thallid’s next turn, the target creature’s speed increases by 10 ft., it gets a +1 bonus to Dexterity saving throws, and it can take its choice of either an additional action or bonus action on its turn. This action can only be used to take the Disengage, Dodge, Hide, or Use an Object actions, or to make a single weapon attack. Once this effect ends for the target, it cannot be affected by any vitaspore thallid’s Invigorating Spores for the next 24 hours.

Anybody else play card games?

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Anybody else play card games?

 
Should I take that to mean you don’t like my imports?