I don't think anyone here was suggesting this, although if you look back at some of the stuff that was out then it was / is weird.
As a parent now, I can totally empathize with parents who found the whole thing really strange and off-putting (stuff about demons, devils, weird art work, really, really objectionable artwork by more modern standards, etc).
Reminds me of what C.S. Lewis called 'chronological snobbery' - the uncritical acceptance of the intellectual climate common to our own age and the assumption that whatever has gone out of date is on that account discredited.
Put another way, bible thumping over protective parents scared of devil game that turns kids on to witchcraft. I think if we are honest we can say there certainly was reason to be concerned.
I'm nominally a Christian, although I haven't set foot in a church in years. I remember when I was a little little kid that my parents had kind of bought in to the whole DND Moral Panic thing, but I think at some point they realized that it wasn't that different from Lord of the Rings, so they let it go. I started getting into RPGs due to a friend of my when I was about 14 or so, and I mined 3.5 and 4E books for ideas a lot, but I only became interested in actually playing DnD proper when 5E came out.
Christian here. And I'll just comment that anyone who still thinks d&d is 'black magic' or 'satanic' is delusional, uninformed, or into the game way too much.
Attempting to become a missionary for the Japanese Baptist Fellowship.
Out of curiosity, would anyone have an opening at a game? I'm fairly new and would prefer my first D&D experiences to be with people that I have something in common with.
I'm raised Catholic, my family is deeply religious. I practice my faith by deed, not by going to church. Basically it means being kind to others, sharing, helping out when possible, trying to be a good person, not cheating others, trying to educate people on matters of oppression and how to do better. How to empathize with others. I think that's probably considered a weird way to identify as Christian, but that's how I handle things. However: I also believe that morals and acts of kindness are not dependent on faith at all. It's just that those stories stuck with me the best.
It also transfers to my game design efforts. My game, while having violence, is largely about how to not kill each other when having trouble. How we need to compromise sometimes, and how we need to be strict in other ways. How to look out for one another, basically. So yeah, hey, I'm here too.
We're playing sci-fi D&D in an alt-history modern day. We also deal with modern-day issues, mostly my take on the culture war, but PCs and NPCs belong to real-world religions.
One of my favorite NPCs is a Coptic Christian missionary. He is optimistic, wise and level-headed.
Since there are guns, everyone is hesitant to start shooting [and thereby murdering or dying] so most fights are with fists, or using subdual damage with melee weapons at worst.
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Admin on MeWe's Conservative D&D Players group, but I believe that no matter what our differences are, our love of D&D is something that should bring us together. So, if you don't start something I won't either. Fair enough?
Method Actor, Storyteller, Tactician type who plays peacemaker at the table. This fall will be my 39th year playing D&D, Gamma World, Car Wars, Talisman, Serenity and Traveller.
Is there anyone that would be interested in joining my brother's online game. He is an excellent GM and a strong Christian. Unfortunately, where he lives, he doesn't have many opportunities for fellowship and he is looking for a group of Christians to run games and fellowship with.
Is there anyone that would be interested in joining my brother's online game. He is an excellent GM and a strong Christian. Unfortunately, where he lives, he doesn't have many opportunities for fellowship and he is looking for a group of Christians to run games and fellowship with.
Just have him start one here in the PBP section =)
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"Sooner or later, your Players are going to smash your railroad into a sandbox."
-Vedexent
"real life is a super high CR."
-OboeLauren
"............anybody got any potatoes? We could drop a potato in each hole an' see which ones get viciously mauled by horrible monsters?"
I don't like how Christianity is somehow seen as synonymous with morals. The D&D and satanism thing was a kind of religious panic (albeit mild) not a moral panic in the truest sense, I believe. I regard it as a modern day "witch hunt light". But it is fascinating how this spread to Sweden through strange channels; the Swedish translator of Tolkien's books was among them, but mostly it was the evangelical Christians in Sweden who are and have been a minority within a minority for generations. (I use evangelical for lack of a better term to describe them). So Drakar & Demoner (an RPG that was heavily influenced by D&D and Runequest) was also accused of being a satanistic game, mainly because that movement was so influenced by christian extremists in the US.
The thing I don't get is why this forbidding attitude by parents didn't provoke kids into wanting to play D&D even MORE. In Sweden, kids would for certain sneak away and secretly play D&D if their parents forbade it. That would make it just so much more attractive!
Hello, grew up Indy-fundy and was always taught how wicked D&D was. Gotta love chick-tracts! Finally learned to think for myself XD
Anyway, was curious how fellow followers of any faith tackle the aspect of gods/deities as it pertains to your characters, especially in 5e. I don’t invest a whole lot of background into this, unless I play a cleric or perhaps a paladin.
I pretty much ignore the deities when making characters except clerics and paladins. Then I usually focus more on the order they belong to rather than the deity.
My characters never refer to the deities of DND as gods, since there’s only one, and I will only call them deities, as it implies they are fake, which they are.
I'm Christian. The players I play with are varying faiths and levels of faith and every group always has been. Never seems to be a topic in-game or out-of-game.
I don't think anyone here was suggesting this, although if you look back at some of the stuff that was out then it was / is weird.
As a parent now, I can totally empathize with parents who found the whole thing really strange and off-putting (stuff about demons, devils, weird art work, really, really objectionable artwork by more modern standards, etc).
Reminds me of what C.S. Lewis called 'chronological snobbery' - the uncritical acceptance of the intellectual climate common to our own age and the assumption that whatever has gone out of date is on that account discredited.
Put another way, bible thumping over protective parents scared of devil game that turns kids on to witchcraft. I think if we are honest we can say there certainly was reason to be concerned.
I'm nominally a Christian, although I haven't set foot in a church in years. I remember when I was a little little kid that my parents had kind of bought in to the whole DND Moral Panic thing, but I think at some point they realized that it wasn't that different from Lord of the Rings, so they let it go. I started getting into RPGs due to a friend of my when I was about 14 or so, and I mined 3.5 and 4E books for ideas a lot, but I only became interested in actually playing DnD proper when 5E came out.
I am a Christian, and I am going to church tomorrow!
Also; it's nice to meet you!
Christian here.
And I'll just comment that anyone who still thinks d&d is 'black magic' or 'satanic' is delusional, uninformed, or into the game way too much.
Attempting to become a missionary for the Japanese Baptist Fellowship.
Out of curiosity, would anyone have an opening at a game? I'm fairly new and would prefer my first D&D experiences to be with people that I have something in common with.
YES I PLAY DND AND A CHRISTIAN , NOT REALLY A PERSON THAT PLAYS WITH MY CHAR WORSHIPING ANYTHING ETHER
I'm raised Catholic, my family is deeply religious. I practice my faith by deed, not by going to church. Basically it means being kind to others, sharing, helping out when possible, trying to be a good person, not cheating others, trying to educate people on matters of oppression and how to do better. How to empathize with others. I think that's probably considered a weird way to identify as Christian, but that's how I handle things. However: I also believe that morals and acts of kindness are not dependent on faith at all. It's just that those stories stuck with me the best.
It also transfers to my game design efforts. My game, while having violence, is largely about how to not kill each other when having trouble. How we need to compromise sometimes, and how we need to be strict in other ways. How to look out for one another, basically. So yeah, hey, I'm here too.
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Yeah, I'm a Christian =)
It's sometimes tough dealing with people who are still suffering from the old morality hangups.
"Sooner or later, your Players are going to smash your railroad into a sandbox."
-Vedexent
"real life is a super high CR."
-OboeLauren
"............anybody got any potatoes? We could drop a potato in each hole an' see which ones get viciously mauled by horrible monsters?"
-Ilyara Thundertale
Add me to your number!
We're playing sci-fi D&D in an alt-history modern day. We also deal with modern-day issues, mostly my take on the culture war, but PCs and NPCs belong to real-world religions.
One of my favorite NPCs is a Coptic Christian missionary. He is optimistic, wise and level-headed.
Since there are guns, everyone is hesitant to start shooting [and thereby murdering or dying] so most fights are with fists, or using subdual damage with melee weapons at worst.
Admin on MeWe's Conservative D&D Players group, but I believe that no matter what our differences are, our love of D&D is something that should bring us together. So, if you don't start something I won't either. Fair enough?
Method Actor, Storyteller, Tactician type who plays peacemaker at the table. This fall will be my 39th year playing D&D, Gamma World, Car Wars, Talisman, Serenity and Traveller.
Is there anyone that would be interested in joining my brother's online game. He is an excellent GM and a strong Christian. Unfortunately, where he lives, he doesn't have many opportunities for fellowship and he is looking for a group of Christians to run games and fellowship with.
Just have him start one here in the PBP section =)
"Sooner or later, your Players are going to smash your railroad into a sandbox."
-Vedexent
"real life is a super high CR."
-OboeLauren
"............anybody got any potatoes? We could drop a potato in each hole an' see which ones get viciously mauled by horrible monsters?"
-Ilyara Thundertale
I don't like how Christianity is somehow seen as synonymous with morals. The D&D and satanism thing was a kind of religious panic (albeit mild) not a moral panic in the truest sense, I believe. I regard it as a modern day "witch hunt light". But it is fascinating how this spread to Sweden through strange channels; the Swedish translator of Tolkien's books was among them, but mostly it was the evangelical Christians in Sweden who are and have been a minority within a minority for generations. (I use evangelical for lack of a better term to describe them). So Drakar & Demoner (an RPG that was heavily influenced by D&D and Runequest) was also accused of being a satanistic game, mainly because that movement was so influenced by christian extremists in the US.
The thing I don't get is why this forbidding attitude by parents didn't provoke kids into wanting to play D&D even MORE. In Sweden, kids would for certain sneak away and secretly play D&D if their parents forbade it. That would make it just so much more attractive!
Me too
Hello, grew up Indy-fundy and was always taught how wicked D&D was. Gotta love chick-tracts! Finally learned to think for myself XD
Anyway, was curious how fellow followers of any faith tackle the aspect of gods/deities as it pertains to your characters, especially in 5e. I don’t invest a whole lot of background into this, unless I play a cleric or perhaps a paladin.
Looking forward to your input and feedback.
God bless
I pretty much ignore the deities when making characters except clerics and paladins. Then I usually focus more on the order they belong to rather than the deity.
Plus I remind myself it's all made up anyways.
Christian Here.
My characters never refer to the deities of DND as gods, since there’s only one, and I will only call them deities, as it implies they are fake, which they are.
Nice to meet you! merry Jesus’s birthday!
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I'm Christian. The players I play with are varying faiths and levels of faith and every group always has been. Never seems to be a topic in-game or out-of-game.
I am. I just see this a fantasy, no more, no less.
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