I love this website and i will continue to use it but i am ashamed of the devs for charging $15 for virtual dice and its not even going to anything but their pockets after 2 weeks. This should be something that last for all time if not this is not the way the company should be going and i will not be supporting this kind of overpriced transaction.
They're raising money for Black Lives Matter. If they're pocketing the money they're collecting for charity, it's highly illegal. Do you have any proof of this? It's fraud and it would destroy DNDBeyond to do this.
If you think its too much or don't support the cause, don't buy the dice. No idea why you would be ashamed of an organization trying to do something to help fight racial injustice.
Kind of baffled by the level of anger and indignity surrounding the dice prices. This is a new thing they're testing out to make money. It's pretty typical to start on the high end and see who bites, then lower the price if it's not economical.
People spend $15 per week or even per day on microtransactions for phone games or something like Fortnite. Every digital provider wants to get in on that kind of cash flow. As long as it's for purely cosmetic stuff like special dice, I couldn't care less what DDB wants to charge. I personally wouldn't pay that, but I think it's silly to be somehow personally offended by it. Just calm down and move on with your life.
Yeah D&DB gives the free users lots of useability, and even the dice rolling is something they didn't have to do, they could have just of had a boring box, and you can still roll dice without paying. *shrug*
Also they money goes to a great cause and I'm glad that unlike other companies they aren't just saying words, they are putting money out there.
They're raising money for Black Lives Matter. If they're pocketing the money they're collecting for charity, it's highly illegal. Do you have any proof of this? It's fraud and it would destroy DNDBeyond to do this.
If you think its too much or don't support the cause, don't buy the dice. No idea why you would be ashamed of an organization trying to do something to help fight racial injustice.
Also, this post made me decide to buy them.
I think they're saying after the donation period is over, then DDB will be getting the full $15.
I think it’s a good thing. I haven’t bought any yet, I probably will eventually but I have 2 points to make.
1. I think it is a really good feature and it works quite well. If you had to pay just to be able to use it, it’s be worth the price IMO just for the service itself.
2. Damn right they should pocket the money from it. - it is not a feature that is required to be able to use the website, so just don’t buy it. - the money made will help support the site, help them make it bigger and better, and help keep this wonderful D&D service up and running for longer.
OK steady on. I was disappointed and made my view on the price clear in this thread in the Digital Dice Feedback forum (*cough*).
However, I think saying you're comments of being "ashamed" of D&D Beyond and that it's "not what the company should be doing" is overdramatic and nonsensical.
Providing feedback, even negatively, is helpful to a business so if you left it as just that, I'd totes agree with you.
But your statements, and some others (not just you and not just in this thread) are getting a bit much. It's an extra thing that isn't a vital or important part of this site or its main focus. The point of this site is the character sheet and the extended reference tools plus the ever-developing homebrew system all with the ease of getting digital books easily and cheaper than almost anywhere else. This site offers a huge amount of free tools and content, plus purchasable books for cheaper plus great involvement with the community.
They could charge $100 for the dice and it wouldn't matter: you still get the characer sheet, the tools, and everything else. So they're free to charge whatever they want for optional cosmetic extras and not getting them does not, in anyway, stop you from using any of the extremely convenient and well made tools and services they offer - for free.
Sure, I agree the price was a bit disappointing - but that's all. A "bit disappointing". It's not the end of the world, it's just a tiny thing compared to what the site provides. So maybe tone it down a bit, and just provide some respectful feedback and move on?
After all, it's still a great site and as the Great Sages of The Good Place say: Pobody's Nerfect.
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OK steady on. I was disappointed and made my view on the price clear in this thread in the Digital Dice Feedback forum (*cough*).
However, I think saying you're comments of being "ashamed" of D&D Beyond and that it's "not what the company should be doing" is overdramatic and nonsensical.
Providing feedback, even negatively, is helpful to a business so if you left it as just that, I'd totes agree with you.
But your statements, and some others (not just you and not just in this thread) are getting a bit much. It's an extra thing that isn't a vital or important part of this site or its main focus. The point of this site is the character sheet and the extended reference tools plus the ever-developing homebrew system all with the ease of getting digital books easily and cheaper than almost anywhere else. This site offers a huge amount of free tools and content, plus purchasable books for cheaper plus great involvement with the community.
They could charge $100 for the dice and it wouldn't matter: you still get the characer sheet, the tools, and everything else. So they're free to charge whatever they want for optional cosmetic extras and not getting them does not, in anyway, stop you from using any of the extremely convenient and well made tools and services they offer - for free.
Sure, I agree the price was a bit disappointing - but that's all. A "bit disappointing". It's not the end of the world, it's just a tiny thing compared to what the site provides. So maybe tone it down a bit, and just provide some respectful feedback and move on?
After all, it's still a great site and as the Great Sages of The Good Place say: Pobody's Nerfect.
What Cyber said I also posted my thoughts on the price, but at this point I probably wouldn't be as polite on my comments
A dice roller is a fundamentally simple program, even when you factor in retrieving modifier data. As far as most app development time goes, its almost non existent. Combine that with the price tag, $15. That is more than the vast majority of indie games that require 1000s of hours of dev time. Now factor in that the exact same code will be reused several dozens of times to sale different skinned sets of virtual dice at $15.
The price tag is no where remotely near the value.
And you are right. There is no required reason to buy them. You don't have to buy them. The people being sold on this cash grab, are the ones who legitimately love and endorse DnDBeyond. Which makes it worse.
The random number generator is nothing from a programming perspective, but the graphical part is a lot more. Is $15 too much? Obviously. But who cares? It's a free feature that has skins added It's like every free-to-play game ever. No skin is actually worth it. But if you have money to spend and want to support the developers, buy it. If not, don't. Also, companies are cash grabbers. They'll do something if they think they can turn a profit from it. Welcome to capitalism.
Also, before the OP edited the thread it seemed to have a lot more to do with who they were supporting and not the actual product. I don't know why anyone would be ashamed of a company charging too much for a product.
Thank you everyone for your replies. I love having topics like this talked about and hearing the other side as well as others that agree or kinda agree with me. Being over dramatic got the attention and reaction i was hoping for to get my point of view seen and heard.
Thank you everyone for your replies. I love having topics like this talked about and hearing the other side as well as others that agree or kinda agree with me. Being over dramatic got the attention and reaction i was hoping for to get my point of view seen and heard.
You didn't need to be overdramatic to make a point.
Others were able to do the same thing without being overdramatic and were able to be seen and heard by mods, devs and even the vice president of D&D Beyond, BadEye, himself.
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Seriously, why do people make the deliberate choice to make text smaller?! Do you delight in causing eyestrain?
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One thing that needs to be considered is that DNDBeyond does not have many incoming revenue resources. Before the Dice Collection, they only received income from Ad revenue for non subscribers, subscription revenue, and low profit margin items on the market place. Given that they have increased campaign sharing, which was already pretty generous, it would be wise for a business to try recoup some of that potentially lost business. Offering luxury vanity items at a premium is just one avenue they can explore.
As they have said, this is their first offering into this. I feel they hit the right spot on the basic colors, but did overshoot on the mythic set. That said, if I have seen anything from DNDBeyond is that they do right by their customers and I think this will be an non issue as new variants come out.
Edit: Oh yeah and the robust amount of discount codes they have published over the years.
For us rich Europeans/North Americans its the price of a couple of beers to add some variety. If you are playing online D&D 200+ hours per year and can afford it, and are the type of person to buy every D&D book, then sure why not.
Please don't complain about prices of fluffy toys you don't need. Its like the thousands of Dota players complaining about the value of Battlepass.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY IT.
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I love this website and i will continue to use it but i am ashamed of the devs for charging $15 for virtual dice and its not even going to anything but their pockets after 2 weeks. This should be something that last for all time if not this is not the way the company should be going and i will not be supporting this kind of overpriced transaction.
They're raising money for Black Lives Matter. If they're pocketing the money they're collecting for charity, it's highly illegal. Do you have any proof of this? It's fraud and it would destroy DNDBeyond to do this.
If you think its too much or don't support the cause, don't buy the dice. No idea why you would be ashamed of an organization trying to do something to help fight racial injustice.
Also, this post made me decide to buy them.
The dice roller is a completely free feature. It's up to you if you want purchase cosmetic add ons for it. Nothing malicious about it.
Lightning Strike - A rebranded Fire Bolt for Wizards & Sorcerers.
Spirit Bomb - A holy fireball for Clerics, Paladins, & Divine Soul Sorcerers!
Sword Dancer - A Cleric subclass specifically for the Drow goddess Eilistraee.
Quicksilver & The Scarlet Witch - A pair of magical firearms for your Gunslinger or Artificer.
Kind of baffled by the level of anger and indignity surrounding the dice prices. This is a new thing they're testing out to make money. It's pretty typical to start on the high end and see who bites, then lower the price if it's not economical.
People spend $15 per week or even per day on microtransactions for phone games or something like Fortnite. Every digital provider wants to get in on that kind of cash flow. As long as it's for purely cosmetic stuff like special dice, I couldn't care less what DDB wants to charge. I personally wouldn't pay that, but I think it's silly to be somehow personally offended by it. Just calm down and move on with your life.
My homebrew subclasses (full list here)
(Artificer) Swordmage | Glasswright | (Barbarian) Path of the Savage Embrace
(Bard) College of Dance | (Fighter) Warlord | Cannoneer
(Monk) Way of the Elements | (Ranger) Blade Dancer
(Rogue) DaggerMaster | Inquisitor | (Sorcerer) Riftwalker | Spellfist
(Warlock) The Swarm
Yeah D&DB gives the free users lots of useability, and even the dice rolling is something they didn't have to do, they could have just of had a boring box, and you can still roll dice without paying. *shrug*
Also they money goes to a great cause and I'm glad that unlike other companies they aren't just saying words, they are putting money out there.
I think they're saying after the donation period is over, then DDB will be getting the full $15.
EDIT: - I'm editing out my reply as someone pointed out OP may have made some arguments I didn't originally see, and may not have agreed with.
Short version of my post:
Farmer B. Dice Farmer. -- Game grower. Cardboard cultivator. Polyhedral planter.
I think it’s a good thing. I haven’t bought any yet, I probably will eventually but I have 2 points to make.
1. I think it is a really good feature and it works quite well. If you had to pay just to be able to use it, it’s be worth the price IMO just for the service itself.
2. Damn right they should pocket the money from it.
- it is not a feature that is required to be able to use the website, so just don’t buy it.
- the money made will help support the site, help them make it bigger and better, and help keep this wonderful D&D service up and running for longer.
OK steady on. I was disappointed and made my view on the price clear in this thread in the Digital Dice Feedback forum (*cough*).
However, I think saying you're comments of being "ashamed" of D&D Beyond and that it's "not what the company should be doing" is overdramatic and nonsensical.
Providing feedback, even negatively, is helpful to a business so if you left it as just that, I'd totes agree with you.
But your statements, and some others (not just you and not just in this thread) are getting a bit much. It's an extra thing that isn't a vital or important part of this site or its main focus. The point of this site is the character sheet and the extended reference tools plus the ever-developing homebrew system all with the ease of getting digital books easily and cheaper than almost anywhere else. This site offers a huge amount of free tools and content, plus purchasable books for cheaper plus great involvement with the community.
They could charge $100 for the dice and it wouldn't matter: you still get the characer sheet, the tools, and everything else. So they're free to charge whatever they want for optional cosmetic extras and not getting them does not, in anyway, stop you from using any of the extremely convenient and well made tools and services they offer - for free.
Sure, I agree the price was a bit disappointing - but that's all. A "bit disappointing". It's not the end of the world, it's just a tiny thing compared to what the site provides. So maybe tone it down a bit, and just provide some respectful feedback and move on?
After all, it's still a great site and as the Great Sages of The Good Place say: Pobody's Nerfect.
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
What Cyber said I also posted my thoughts on the price, but at this point I probably wouldn't be as polite on my comments
I can enlighten you.
A dice roller is a fundamentally simple program, even when you factor in retrieving modifier data. As far as most app development time goes, its almost non existent.
Combine that with the price tag, $15. That is more than the vast majority of indie games that require 1000s of hours of dev time.
Now factor in that the exact same code will be reused several dozens of times to sale different skinned sets of virtual dice at $15.
The price tag is no where remotely near the value.
And you are right. There is no required reason to buy them.
You don't have to buy them.
The people being sold on this cash grab, are the ones who legitimately love and endorse DnDBeyond.
Which makes it worse.
That's why people are annoyed.
The random number generator is nothing from a programming perspective, but the graphical part is a lot more. Is $15 too much? Obviously. But who cares? It's a free feature that has skins added It's like every free-to-play game ever. No skin is actually worth it. But if you have money to spend and want to support the developers, buy it. If not, don't. Also, companies are cash grabbers. They'll do something if they think they can turn a profit from it. Welcome to capitalism.
Also, before the OP edited the thread it seemed to have a lot more to do with who they were supporting and not the actual product. I don't know why anyone would be ashamed of a company charging too much for a product.
Thank you everyone for your replies. I love having topics like this talked about and hearing the other side as well as others that agree or kinda agree with me. Being over dramatic got the attention and reaction i was hoping for to get my point of view seen and heard.
You didn't need to be overdramatic to make a point.
Others were able to do the same thing without being overdramatic and were able to be seen and heard by mods, devs and even the vice president of D&D Beyond, BadEye, himself.
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
Seriously, why do people make the deliberate choice to make text smaller?! Do you delight in causing eyestrain?
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
One thing that needs to be considered is that DNDBeyond does not have many incoming revenue resources. Before the Dice Collection, they only received income from Ad revenue for non subscribers, subscription revenue, and low profit margin items on the market place. Given that they have increased campaign sharing, which was already pretty generous, it would be wise for a business to try recoup some of that potentially lost business. Offering luxury vanity items at a premium is just one avenue they can explore.
As they have said, this is their first offering into this. I feel they hit the right spot on the basic colors, but did overshoot on the mythic set. That said, if I have seen anything from DNDBeyond is that they do right by their customers and I think this will be an non issue as new variants come out.
Edit: Oh yeah and the robust amount of discount codes they have published over the years.
Control + scroll up on a PC. Or something + something on a mac.
But yeah I totally agree haha!
I myself prefer that font but the font size is to small for me and when I use it have to make it larger for my old geezer eyes lol
For us rich Europeans/North Americans its the price of a couple of beers to add some variety. If you are playing online D&D 200+ hours per year and can afford it, and are the type of person to buy every D&D book, then sure why not.
Please don't complain about prices of fluffy toys you don't need. Its like the thousands of Dota players complaining about the value of Battlepass.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BUY IT.