Personally, I just hope the Seasonality rules are thrown out once Season 10 hits. I know some people adore making new characters and such. But I personally would like to continue playing characters that I have without being either denied or punished severely for it.
This is sorta coming from a novice player, but I am not exactly a fan of having to ditch it unless the game itself is an outright lv 1 campaign and I had a pre-existing character that far outclassed the campaign's starting tier. This is of course assuming they are putting out rules like preventing you from gaining items while playing as an out-of-season character. I am not aware of any changes they have made since they first published those.
Personally, I just hope the Seasonality rules are thrown out once Season 10 hits. I know some people adore making new characters and such. But I personally would like to continue playing characters that I have without being either denied or punished severely for it.
This is sorta coming from a novice player, but I am not exactly a fan of having to ditch it unless the game itself is an outright lv 1 campaign and I had a pre-existing character that far outclassed the campaign's starting tier.
Nobody had to ditch their old characters in Season 9. You can still play them.
You just have to follow these guidelines to convert your old characters to be Season 9 compliant:
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Personally, I just hope the Seasonality rules are thrown out once Season 10 hits. I know some people adore making new characters and such. But I personally would like to continue playing characters that I have without being either denied or punished severely for it.
This is sorta coming from a novice player, but I am not exactly a fan of having to ditch it unless the game itself is an outright lv 1 campaign and I had a pre-existing character that far outclassed the campaign's starting tier.
Nobody had to ditch their old characters in Season 9. You can still play them.
You just have to follow these guidelines to convert your old characters to be Season 9 compliant:
Ahhh my bad. I heard somewhere that they basically nuked any reason to play with out of Season characters, but didn't notice this. Thanks.
Personally, I just hope the Seasonality rules are thrown out once Season 10 hits. I know some people adore making new characters and such. But I personally would like to continue playing characters that I have without being either denied or punished severely for it.
This is sorta coming from a novice player, but I am not exactly a fan of having to ditch it unless the game itself is an outright lv 1 campaign and I had a pre-existing character that far outclassed the campaign's starting tier.
Nobody had to ditch their old characters in Season 9. You can still play them.
You just have to follow these guidelines to convert your old characters to be Season 9 compliant:
Ahhh my bad. I heard somewhere that they basically nuked any reason to play with out of Season characters, but didn't notice this. Thanks.
They were going to. But there was major backlash by the community. There were a lot of AL players who either quit or threatened to quit outright and wrote some nastygrams to the AL representatives on reddit subforums and a few other places to stop them from messing up the game like they did in season 8. The diehards at the (very busy) gamestore I played at threatened to quit en-masse and start playing a game that rhymes with "math binder" if WoTC didn't stop screwing up. They (the AL admins) listened, backed down on seasonality (which was a bad idea to begin with.) and went with magic item limits, which was a much better idea than "treasure points."
Season 9 was mostly good, but like I said before, the gold limits are what break immersion the most. Gold doesn't offer any game advantage and it allows players who go to conventions to buy some of the more fun certificates such as unique familiars, pets and estates. For instance, at a convention 2 years ago prior to season 8 my favorite character was able to buy himself a winged snake familiar certificate (Mata Mata, flying spy) and an estate certificate in mulmaster, the setup of which is based on your faction. He's a Zhentarim so the estate was a lair in the sewers of Mulmaster with 5 thugs as the guards. It doesn't provide any mechanical benefit other than a bit of fluff to talk about where your character is during their downtime.
By season 8 and 9 rules there is no way that character would have been able to afford it until the end of T4. It was something like 15k to 25k gold. In season 7 you'd get that in T2 by playing some AL modules and some hardcover chapters. Also, part of the reason I've seen fewer hardcover AL games at stores the last 2 years is because of the gold limits. There's far less incentive to playing the books over the modules now.
Long story short, the gold limits are trash. A hybrid of season 9 rules for magic item limits with season 2-7 downtime activities and gold accumulation would make for a fun and unique experience for the players. I miss using downtime on helpful story awards or to learn languages.
Personally, I'd like to see the PHB+1 restriction on most races removed. Most races aren't problematic, but almost nobody wants to give up SCAG or XGtE as their +1s. Ones that almost always cause balance issues (aarakocra, yuan-ti, etc) can either stay banned or be limited to the +1.
They already allowed aasimars as an exception, so why stop there? The argument that it would confuse DMs is moot, as 4 players can join a table with EE, SCAG, VGtM and XGtE simultaneously.
Limit PHB+1 to character creation, not spell choices. Too hard to keep track of what comes from where, esp if using dndbeyond.
oh, and a dndbeyond character creation feature to facilitate PHB+1 by allowing only one additional source based on choices made during character creation.
oh, and a dndbeyond character creation feature to facilitate PHB+1 by allowing only one additional source based on choices made during character creation.
Supposedly they've wanted to do this (and other AL integration) ever since the character sheet feature was added to DNDBeyond. I imagine it complicates things when AL changes their rules every year, though.
True, but it wouldn’t be hard to limit sources on that first screen. You already have the option to block Eberron or Magic sources, how hard would it be to have a “select sources” drop down menu?
True, but it wouldn’t be hard to limit sources on that first screen. You already have the option to block Eberron or Magic sources, how hard would it be to have a “select sources” drop down menu?
They could, but such a simple approach wouldn't necessarily cover AL. For that they'd need to implement all the exceptions -- like backgrounds, Tortles being part of Xanathar's, etc. And then players will ask for source selection on different aspects -- "I want it to enforce this source selection for my spells but not for other things".
True, but it wouldn’t be hard to limit sources on that first screen. You already have the option to block Eberron or Magic sources, how hard would it be to have a “select sources” drop down menu?
Well, as we learned today, pretty bleeping hard with the new Season 10 rules.
...not to mention they excluded SCAG from +1 in a season that takes place on the SC
They also excluded EE, though many of its usable features can be found in either VGtM or XGtE. I hope TCoE includes the missing SCAG options to cover this.
Point-buy also appears to be missing, though that may fall under the variant ability scores rule.
No evil characters, not even lawful ones with a faction.
Personally, I just hope the Seasonality rules are thrown out once Season 10 hits. I know some people adore making new characters and such. But I personally would like to continue playing characters that I have without being either denied or punished severely for it.
This is sorta coming from a novice player, but I am not exactly a fan of having to ditch it unless the game itself is an outright lv 1 campaign and I had a pre-existing character that far outclassed the campaign's starting tier. This is of course assuming they are putting out rules like preventing you from gaining items while playing as an out-of-season character. I am not aware of any changes they have made since they first published those.
Nobody had to ditch their old characters in Season 9. You can still play them.
You just have to follow these guidelines to convert your old characters to be Season 9 compliant:
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Ahhh my bad. I heard somewhere that they basically nuked any reason to play with out of Season characters, but didn't notice this. Thanks.
They were going to. But there was major backlash by the community. There were a lot of AL players who either quit or threatened to quit outright and wrote some nastygrams to the AL representatives on reddit subforums and a few other places to stop them from messing up the game like they did in season 8. The diehards at the (very busy) gamestore I played at threatened to quit en-masse and start playing a game that rhymes with "math binder" if WoTC didn't stop screwing up. They (the AL admins) listened, backed down on seasonality (which was a bad idea to begin with.) and went with magic item limits, which was a much better idea than "treasure points."
Season 9 was mostly good, but like I said before, the gold limits are what break immersion the most. Gold doesn't offer any game advantage and it allows players who go to conventions to buy some of the more fun certificates such as unique familiars, pets and estates. For instance, at a convention 2 years ago prior to season 8 my favorite character was able to buy himself a winged snake familiar certificate (Mata Mata, flying spy) and an estate certificate in mulmaster, the setup of which is based on your faction. He's a Zhentarim so the estate was a lair in the sewers of Mulmaster with 5 thugs as the guards. It doesn't provide any mechanical benefit other than a bit of fluff to talk about where your character is during their downtime.
By season 8 and 9 rules there is no way that character would have been able to afford it until the end of T4. It was something like 15k to 25k gold. In season 7 you'd get that in T2 by playing some AL modules and some hardcover chapters. Also, part of the reason I've seen fewer hardcover AL games at stores the last 2 years is because of the gold limits. There's far less incentive to playing the books over the modules now.
Long story short, the gold limits are trash. A hybrid of season 9 rules for magic item limits with season 2-7 downtime activities and gold accumulation would make for a fun and unique experience for the players. I miss using downtime on helpful story awards or to learn languages.
Personally, I'd like to see the PHB+1 restriction on most races removed. Most races aren't problematic, but almost nobody wants to give up SCAG or XGtE as their +1s. Ones that almost always cause balance issues (aarakocra, yuan-ti, etc) can either stay banned or be limited to the +1.
They already allowed aasimars as an exception, so why stop there? The argument that it would confuse DMs is moot, as 4 players can join a table with EE, SCAG, VGtM and XGtE simultaneously.
Limit PHB+1 to character creation, not spell choices. Too hard to keep track of what comes from where, esp if using dndbeyond.
oh, and a dndbeyond character creation feature to facilitate PHB+1 by allowing only one additional source based on choices made during character creation.
Supposedly they've wanted to do this (and other AL integration) ever since the character sheet feature was added to DNDBeyond. I imagine it complicates things when AL changes their rules every year, though.
True, but it wouldn’t be hard to limit sources on that first screen. You already have the option to block Eberron or Magic sources, how hard would it be to have a “select sources” drop down menu?
They could, but such a simple approach wouldn't necessarily cover AL. For that they'd need to implement all the exceptions -- like backgrounds, Tortles being part of Xanathar's, etc. And then players will ask for source selection on different aspects -- "I want it to enforce this source selection for my spells but not for other things".
They also probably just have other priorities.
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Well, as we learned today, pretty bleeping hard with the new Season 10 rules.
https://media.wizards.com/2020/dnd/downloads/AL_PGv10_0.pdf
...not to mention they excluded SCAG from +1 in a season that takes place on the SC
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They also excluded EE, though many of its usable features can be found in either VGtM or XGtE. I hope TCoE includes the missing SCAG options to cover this.
Point-buy also appears to be missing, though that may fall under the variant ability scores rule.
No evil characters, not even lawful ones with a faction.
Gold limits were relaxed a bit, but still exist.
Point buy is the variant ability score rule.