I know the Unearthed Arcana stuff is playtest material. I know its not published work. I understand that.
My question is...IF something is changed or added by WotC in the future, in an official way, that only affects the current edition, will that new information be made available to me at no charge if I purchase the PHB and XGTE today.
I guess you could equate it to a Patch Update for something like World of Warcraft...patches are coming in all the time and we don't pay for them. We only pay for the "new" expansions as they come in. Would this work in a similar way?
Meerclar: The digital versions of the "books" on DDB reflect the physical hardcopies.
WotC cannot add something to the physical books that people have already bought (ie. a new class, new spells), and it is unlikely they would ever print a new edition of the PHB with completely new things added (a new class, a new spell). Such things would be released in a new book, thus it would be a new, different book on DDB as well.
Errata is different. It is not a new addition to the PHB (or other book) but a correction of something existing. The new ranger, as other have pointed out, will not be added to future editions of the printed PHB, but would appear in a different, new book.
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You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
Errata is different. It is not a new addition to the PHB (or other book) but a correction of something existing. The new ranger, as other have pointed out, will not be added to future editions of the printed PHB, but would appear in a different, new book.
And/or be provided via a pdf or similar (akin to the Elemental Evil Player's Companion), since WOTC has indicated the "revised ranger" would be free and not require a purchase. (Unless they've changed their stance on that)
When purchasing the Legendary Bundle, you receive a discount equal to the dollar amount you have already spent.
I'm not sure if this is in response to my question as my question referred to the impact of discounts on piecemeal purchases for specific books as opposed to the legendary bundle as a whole (I'm sure many others like myself make our own campaigns/settings thus the WotC ones are of less use making the Legendary bundle not worth while for our needs).
When purchasing the Legendary Bundle, you receive a discount equal to the dollar amount you have already spent.
I'm not sure if this is in response to my question as my question referred to the impact of discounts on piecemeal purchases for specific books as opposed to the legendary bundle as a whole (I'm sure many others like myself make our own campaigns/settings thus the WotC ones are of less use making the Legendary bundle not worth while for our needs).
Yes, if you buy pieces from a book, the book's full price is discounted by the amount spent on the partial content.
When purchasing the Legendary Bundle, you receive a discount equal to the dollar amount you have already spent.
I'm not sure if this is in response to my question as my question referred to the impact of discounts on piecemeal purchases for specific books as opposed to the legendary bundle as a whole (I'm sure many others like myself make our own campaigns/settings thus the WotC ones are of less use making the Legendary bundle not worth while for our needs).
Yes, if you buy pieces from a book, the book's full price is discounted by the amount spent on the partial content.
Discount coupons complicate the matter. However is the cost reduced (its not a discount, more a proratered payment) based on that part before discount coupon or including discount?
Normally without a discount coupon, if you buy the players handbook it would cost 10 to upgrade from the compendium to the integrated players handbook ( the 20 already paid for the compendium, 30 for the integrated handbook, thus a difference of 10).
My query example being: A players handbook compendium with 25% off coupon is 15 (or whatever parts you are buying are reduced), with the normal price of 20, does that compendium once purchased count as 15 of the 30 or 20 of the 30 (accounting for a previous discount coupon) to the full integrated players handbook price of 30 (given you would have the compendium part already whatever price you paid for it) should you later upgrade without a discount coupon.
1. You pay the full amount, with credit for the full cost of parts (regardless of what you actually paid) 2. You pay the full amount, with credit for only the dollar value you paid (regardless of the discount coupon)
I suspect it is the 2nd option (like for the legendary bundle), but discussions across my group have yet to categorically nail it down.
When purchasing the Legendary Bundle, you receive a discount equal to the dollar amount you have already spent.
I'm not sure if this is in response to my question as my question referred to the impact of discounts on piecemeal purchases for specific books as opposed to the legendary bundle as a whole (I'm sure many others like myself make our own campaigns/settings thus the WotC ones are of less use making the Legendary bundle not worth while for our needs).
Yes, if you buy pieces from a book, the book's full price is discounted by the amount spent on the partial content.
Discount coupons complicate the matter. However is the cost reduced (its not a discount, more a proratered payment) based on that part before discount coupon or including discount?
Normally without a discount coupon, if you buy the players handbook it would cost 10 to upgrade from the compendium to the integrated players handbook ( the 20 already paid for the compendium, 30 for the integrated handbook, thus a difference of 10).
My query example being: A players handbook compendium with 25% off coupon is 15 (or whatever parts you are buying are reduced), with the normal price of 20, does that compendium once purchased count as 15 of the 30 or 20 of the 30 (accounting for a previous discount coupon) to the full integrated players handbook price of 30 (given you would have the compendium part already whatever price you paid for it) should you later upgrade without a discount coupon.
1. You pay the full amount, with credit for the full cost of parts (regardless of what you actually paid) 2. You pay the full amount, with credit for only the dollar value you paid (regardless of the discount coupon)
I suspect it is the 2nd option (like for the legendary bundle), but discussions across my group have yet to categorically nail it down.
Yes, if you buy pieces from a book, the book's full price is discounted by the amount spent on the partial content.
Discount coupons complicate the matter. However is the cost reduced (its not a discount, more a proratered payment) based on that part before discount coupon or including discount?
Normally without a discount coupon, if you buy the players handbook it would cost 10 to upgrade from the compendium to the integrated players handbook ( the 20 already paid for the compendium, 30 for the integrated handbook, thus a difference of 10).
My query example being: A players handbook compendium with 25% off coupon is 15 (or whatever parts you are buying are reduced), with the normal price of 20, does that compendium once purchased count as 15 of the 30 or 20 of the 30 (accounting for a previous discount coupon) to the full integrated players handbook price of 30 (given you would have the compendium part already whatever price you paid for it) should you later upgrade without a discount coupon.
1. You pay the full amount, with credit for the full cost of parts (regardless of what you actually paid) 2. You pay the full amount, with credit for only the dollar value you paid (regardless of the discount coupon)
I suspect it is the 2nd option (like for the legendary bundle), but discussions across my group have yet to categorically nail it down.
That does get more complicated, and I'll admit I'm not 100% positive. I DO know that I've read on here that if you buy a book at a discounted price due to a coupon, that the Legendary Bundle price is only reduced by the amount you spent, not the full, undiscounted price of the component. That's due to the fact that the full price of the LB is already discounted the 15% that purchasing the LB gives you on all future purchases. I expect that is the case for individual books as well, so your #2 should be the correct answer. However I can't say that for sure. Hopefully someone "in the know" can pop in and tell us definitively.
I can tell you for fact that I used the Crit Role discount code to purchase a book and the LB price was reduced only the amount i paid, not the full cost of the book i purchased.
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I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
I know I'm pretty late to the party here, but why not just add access to the PHB in return for a subscription?
I think there's a misunderstanding about what is upsetting people. Everyone is fine with buying most of the books over again, but if you're offering a subscription everyone expects that to come with access to the basic character options that are restricted in the free version.
As it stands right now most people don't need more than a few characters, and the ads aren't very invasive. Adding homebrew content is the only appeal of a subscription and i'd guess that most people are adding homebrew versions of the PHB content as soon as they subscribe (I have no clue if you moderate to take down plagiarized content, since I don't have a subscription).
Adding in the PHB options, even if it meant tripling the cost, would probably get you steadier income than asking people to buy it through micro-transactions. Even if people bought one month and built one or two characters in that time with the content, then shut down their subscription, they'd still be using maybe 8-12 dollars of content to make their characters, which is what you charge for them anyway.
Or do a credit service like audible does, which lets you buy three pieces of content every month with credit. There has to be some way to get access to the PHB while paying for the service Curse provides, not the content WOtC created.
There has to be some way to get access to the PHB while paying for the service Curse provides, not the content WOtC created.
As it would seem, WOTC is pretty keen on being paid for the content they created. WOTC bills Curse for licenses issued - there isn't a way to give their intellectual property away without charge, no.
As it stands right now most people don't need more than a few characters, and the ads aren't very invasive. Adding homebrew content is the only appeal of a subscription and i'd guess that most people are adding homebrew versions of the PHB content as soon as they subscribe (I have no clue if you moderate to take down plagiarized content, since I don't have a subscription). ...
If I recall correctly you don't need a subscription to share your own homebrew (unpublished at this point) with those in your campaign and only need the subscription to share homebrew from others, share your own homebrew that you have published (without making a copy) or any books purchased with those in your campaign (though master tier is needed for that).
This does though bring to the issue of anything you copy from the books into D&D Beyond as a homebrew for your own use may actually infringe on the WotC "unable to copy or distribute without specific permission" part of their copy write policy. As I'm not sure if it has been permitted in writing anywhere by WotC.
One of the strategies that's been suggested is to pay just for the character builder elements you need as you go (remembering the SRD content is already free). You'll never pay for more than the cost of a book and it means you can get a character off the ground for a few bucks. Do that each month and you soon have most of what you need. It's a bit more difficult if you want compendium content, but at $20 for the compendium only PHB, DMG and so on, it's a pretty reasonable entry point. Not what you want to hear, I know, but it's something if cash flow is an issue.
...everyone expects that to come with access to the basic character options that are restricted in the free version.
The problem that arises when you use language like "everyone expects" is that if you aren't talking about literally 100% of everyone, then what you are saying is wrong.
It isn't true that everyone expects options that aren't offered free in any other way to be included for free with a different purchase.
I know I'm pretty late to the party here, but why not just add access to the PHB in return for a subscription?
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There has to be some way to get access to the PHB while paying for the service Curse provides, not the content WOtC created.
But what's the difference? Seriously I don't get it.
You're still paying Curse either way, and, in the case of a subscription, eventually paying more than than the buy-once model (as I've pointed out here and here), and for less value, since you don't get to use the content if you stop paying.
Why is the buy-once model so offensive to people? I understand the high upfront cost can be an issue, but there's many ways around that. Is the principle of "I will NOT re-buy content I already own," so important that people are unable to see that it's the better deal for them?
Can you guys add either the content of or a link to https://www.dndbeyond.com/full-subscription-details-for-d-d-beyond from the subscription page? It's confusing that the page lists my status but stops listing all the subscription benefits once I'm a subscriber...
Is it possible to activate PHB content in D&D Beyond if you have a physical copy? Otherwise it would be kind of a double purchase, which could be experienced as an inconvenience.
Hi, I moved your post since this thread is more appropriate for your request and you can find all the aspects of your question.
The short answer is no, a physical copy of a D&D product does not grant you the digital content here on D&D Beyond.
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That might be due to Xanathar's. Not 100% sure, but I heard some stuff changed.
The spells from PotA have been updated in the Compendium.
You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
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2. You pay the full amount, with credit for only the dollar value you paid (regardless of the discount coupon)
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Thank you all for your help. I think I have my answer. And thanks to mjsoctober...your first sentence pretty much summed up what I needed to know.
I can tell you for fact that I used the Crit Role discount code to purchase a book and the LB price was reduced only the amount i paid, not the full cost of the book i purchased.
I just want to tell everyone "happy gaming" and actually mean it. Whatever your game is, just have fun with it, it is after all, just a game.
I know I'm pretty late to the party here, but why not just add access to the PHB in return for a subscription?
I think there's a misunderstanding about what is upsetting people. Everyone is fine with buying most of the books over again, but if you're offering a subscription everyone expects that to come with access to the basic character options that are restricted in the free version.
As it stands right now most people don't need more than a few characters, and the ads aren't very invasive. Adding homebrew content is the only appeal of a subscription and i'd guess that most people are adding homebrew versions of the PHB content as soon as they subscribe (I have no clue if you moderate to take down plagiarized content, since I don't have a subscription).
Adding in the PHB options, even if it meant tripling the cost, would probably get you steadier income than asking people to buy it through micro-transactions. Even if people bought one month and built one or two characters in that time with the content, then shut down their subscription, they'd still be using maybe 8-12 dollars of content to make their characters, which is what you charge for them anyway.
Or do a credit service like audible does, which lets you buy three pieces of content every month with credit. There has to be some way to get access to the PHB while paying for the service Curse provides, not the content WOtC created.
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One of the strategies that's been suggested is to pay just for the character builder elements you need as you go (remembering the SRD content is already free). You'll never pay for more than the cost of a book and it means you can get a character off the ground for a few bucks. Do that each month and you soon have most of what you need. It's a bit more difficult if you want compendium content, but at $20 for the compendium only PHB, DMG and so on, it's a pretty reasonable entry point. Not what you want to hear, I know, but it's something if cash flow is an issue.
The problem that arises when you use language like "everyone expects" is that if you aren't talking about literally 100% of everyone, then what you are saying is wrong.
It isn't true that everyone expects options that aren't offered free in any other way to be included for free with a different purchase.
In all seriousness... there's all sorts of subscriptions for stuff nowadays. Maybe people are so used to getting ripped off they've lost perspective?
Maybe the mods can suggest to Badeye or Todd can do a video on the Main page explaining how buying a la carte works?
You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
Can you guys add either the content of or a link to https://www.dndbeyond.com/full-subscription-details-for-d-d-beyond from the subscription page? It's confusing that the page lists my status but stops listing all the subscription benefits once I'm a subscriber...