What an utter waste of resources. This is a definite pass for me. I'm all for making modules. Do it like they did in the old days, where each module was published and people could buy ones that fit their needs. I've never been happy with anthologies of adventures, especially when the quality is on par with old dragon magazine adventures. If you are publishing an actual hard back book then give us something big like a classic setting. Just sad.
I’ve passed on most of the adventure books so far (I have LMoP and RotFM and will likely pick up GoS at some point), but this one might be for me. I understand it’s a disappointment for some, but I like mysteries. It’s also more than likely not like we’re not getting a setting book, an options book or a monster book because of this release. It’s almost certainly an adventure book slot that gets filled - if you were hoping for something else, that’ll either still be released later in the year or it was never going to be part of the lineup. If you don’t want it, that’s fine. WotC isn’t looking for Xanathar or Tasha sales numbers from this, I’m sure.
which would be cool.* I'm guessing this might have some mysteries within Candlekeep and some mysteries where the adventurers may be working on behalf of Candlekeep. Also heard somewhere that Deborah Ann Woll is one of the contributors. If that's the case a look at her Relics and Reliquaries may give you a sense of the sort of theme/tone for at least her contribution to the book.
*Elminster's Candlekeep Companion does some great work consolidated the lore of Candlekeep for 5e, and has some gorgeous maps asking for a printed release ... the rest of it is a little uneven, the subclasses offered are a bit meh though try to stick to the Candlekeep theme ... there's some magic some of it fits thematically with the book but there's all these items of "time magic" especially weapons that don't seem to make sense organically with the rest of the work. There's also a "Director's Cut" that was apparently in some draft of DiA, whose best elements largely get worked into in other parts of the published adventure (that sections was what most interested me in the book, until I actually read it). What I'm saying is if they repackage the maps and Candlekeep setting fluff as a framework for this book, or an appendix, I'd say I'd be more likely to go for it that the ~$15 title currently sitting in DMsGuild.
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I would suspect they will take place in and around Candlekeep given that is an existing location and there have been adventures from past editions that have used the location. Which makes me think this will be just like Saltmarsh and Tales, and just be a reprint of old adventures converted to 5e.
I think all over. Not even necessarily all being in the same world.
I imagine there will be some part or parts focused on Candlekeep. I mean, its libraries and tunnels are reputed to be filled with mysteries, and a lot of talkers for investigators to interview. It could also be pretty far flung. Candlekeep is a seat of knowledge for the entire continent and I'm sure it's investigators have been tasked to corroborate stories. The best into Candlekeep is to present a book it doesn't yet possess, so I imagine there'll be a book hunt or several, probably also some stories drawing on the various magic books in 5e, and maybe some new ones. I think Third's right in that extraplanar travels or trips to other worlds within the Prime Material on behalf of Candlekeep may be in order as well.
I'm not disappointed because it wasn't what I was expecting. I"m curious, and mystery genre informed play is one of those areas 5e could use some growth in. I do question WotC's publishing adventures - which are for the most part one use products - in the same format as the sourcebooks that a game group will be using over a long time. Not sure if I'll be pre-ordering, more likely pick up on D&D Beyond, it'd be awesome if you could buy these adventures a la carte. I may be curious what writer X writes but not so much writer Y, so DDB devs, nudge.
I've been assuming that the framing device is that these are all mystery books that can be found at Candlekeep, like the Mystery section at a library, so they can be about anything and set anywhere.
Also remember people that adventure modules are typically not written by the same designers as content modules. Just like Wildemount, I doubt this has taken up all of their development time if you’re still itching for more content.
Also remember people that adventure modules are typically not written by the same designers as content modules. Just like Wildemount, I doubt this has taken up all of their development time if you’re still itching for more content.
It has taken up the Q1 slot, though.
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I've been assuming that the framing device is that these are all mystery books that can be found at Candlekeep, like the Mystery section at a library, so they can be about anything and set anywhere.
I love this idea. Maybe it could have some sarcastic graffiti from readers like Xanathar's or Volo's notes in their books.
That could be fun. But could also mean you get an Athas or Sigil or Mystara adventure so Wizards can gauge interest and maybe lean into a whole campaign setting book. Use this anthology to put feelers out.
It also has a poster map of Candlekeep (hell yeah!), magic items and monster stat blocks (including "a variety of NPCs"), and detailed descriptions of Candlekeep and its inhabitants.
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Yeah, the more I hear about this, the more I'm into it. I'm down for CSI: Faerun or whatever. I even built a detective character last night just as practice for the mystery stuff. Pallid Elf Rogue Inquisitive is...ludicrously well suited for this.
i was wondering the same thing...huge names in that pub including Ed Greenwood and MT Black. I can only imagine WotC had at least one eye on that pub at some point during the production of the new book...otherwise it'd be kind of a slap in the face to both of them if the new book conflicts significantly with that one (let alone potential lore conflicts with a lore creator) . The Companion isn't official, but its as official as unofficial gets (...imo...). I feel like maybe its like what we saw with Eberron where a pdf came out ahead of a full book (although that pdf was official where this one is unofficial). I like the little glowglobes.
A collection of 5e mystery shorts would be potentially enticing if the base D&D 5e ruleset wasn't absolutely god-*******-awful at dealing with Mystery games. "Roll Investigation until you find the next clue in the sequence" is not a mystery game, it's Yahtzee with weird trappings. Most players are not prepared to play any sort of actual mystery game, most DMs are not prepared to run one, and D&D 5e is not even in the slightest prepared to enable one.
Disappointing yawn. Highly skippable book, unless they do something utterly gobsmack fantastic that probably has no business being in the book to start with.
A collection of 5e mystery shorts would be potentially enticing if the base D&D 5e ruleset wasn't absolutely god-****ing-awful at dealing with Mystery games. "Roll Investigation until you find the next clue in the sequence" is not a mystery game, it's Yahtzee with weird trappings.
maybe they'll address that...you know, throw in a perception check or something
I know people have divisive attitudes on the guy, but AngryGM really summarized why your Mystery games always fail as perfectly as anyone could want in his Investigative Resolution article. Highly recommend giving it a check if you want to run mystery games and have them suck less. Just brace your keister for comedic abrasiveness. It's kinda his thing.
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I admit that comes close to the least interesting option possible. I will probably purchase but I've gotten much more interesting 3rd party books.
What an utter waste of resources. This is a definite pass for me. I'm all for making modules. Do it like they did in the old days, where each module was published and people could buy ones that fit their needs. I've never been happy with anthologies of adventures, especially when the quality is on par with old dragon magazine adventures. If you are publishing an actual hard back book then give us something big like a classic setting. Just sad.
I’ve passed on most of the adventure books so far (I have LMoP and RotFM and will likely pick up GoS at some point), but this one might be for me. I understand it’s a disappointment for some, but I like mysteries. It’s also more than likely not like we’re not getting a setting book, an options book or a monster book because of this release. It’s almost certainly an adventure book slot that gets filled - if you were hoping for something else, that’ll either still be released later in the year or it was never going to be part of the lineup. If you don’t want it, that’s fine. WotC isn’t looking for Xanathar or Tasha sales numbers from this, I’m sure.
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I wonder if this might salvage/reprint the good setting/lore from this:
https://www.dmsguild.com/product/311436/Elminsters-Candlekeep-Companion?term=candlekeep companion
which would be cool.* I'm guessing this might have some mysteries within Candlekeep and some mysteries where the adventurers may be working on behalf of Candlekeep. Also heard somewhere that Deborah Ann Woll is one of the contributors. If that's the case a look at her Relics and Reliquaries may give you a sense of the sort of theme/tone for at least her contribution to the book.
*Elminster's Candlekeep Companion does some great work consolidated the lore of Candlekeep for 5e, and has some gorgeous maps asking for a printed release ... the rest of it is a little uneven, the subclasses offered are a bit meh though try to stick to the Candlekeep theme ... there's some magic some of it fits thematically with the book but there's all these items of "time magic" especially weapons that don't seem to make sense organically with the rest of the work. There's also a "Director's Cut" that was apparently in some draft of DiA, whose best elements largely get worked into in other parts of the published adventure (that sections was what most interested me in the book, until I actually read it). What I'm saying is if they repackage the maps and Candlekeep setting fluff as a framework for this book, or an appendix, I'd say I'd be more likely to go for it that the ~$15 title currently sitting in DMsGuild.
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Do you think the adventures in Candlekeep Mysteries will be spread across the Forgotten Realms, or towards one area?
I think all over. Not even necessarily all being in the same world.
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Then we might go to Ravenloft. A Gothic Horror Mystery sounds great.
I imagine there will be some part or parts focused on Candlekeep. I mean, its libraries and tunnels are reputed to be filled with mysteries, and a lot of talkers for investigators to interview. It could also be pretty far flung. Candlekeep is a seat of knowledge for the entire continent and I'm sure it's investigators have been tasked to corroborate stories. The best into Candlekeep is to present a book it doesn't yet possess, so I imagine there'll be a book hunt or several, probably also some stories drawing on the various magic books in 5e, and maybe some new ones. I think Third's right in that extraplanar travels or trips to other worlds within the Prime Material on behalf of Candlekeep may be in order as well.
I'm not disappointed because it wasn't what I was expecting. I"m curious, and mystery genre informed play is one of those areas 5e could use some growth in. I do question WotC's publishing adventures - which are for the most part one use products - in the same format as the sourcebooks that a game group will be using over a long time. Not sure if I'll be pre-ordering, more likely pick up on D&D Beyond, it'd be awesome if you could buy these adventures a la carte. I may be curious what writer X writes but not so much writer Y, so DDB devs, nudge.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
I've been assuming that the framing device is that these are all mystery books that can be found at Candlekeep, like the Mystery section at a library, so they can be about anything and set anywhere.
Also remember people that adventure modules are typically not written by the same designers as content modules. Just like Wildemount, I doubt this has taken up all of their development time if you’re still itching for more content.
It has taken up the Q1 slot, though.
Please check out my homebrew, I would appreciate feedback:
Spells, Monsters, Subclasses, Races, Arcknight Class, Occultist Class, World, Enigmatic Esoterica forms
I love this idea. Maybe it could have some sarcastic graffiti from readers like Xanathar's or Volo's notes in their books.
That could be fun. But could also mean you get an Athas or Sigil or Mystara adventure so Wizards can gauge interest and maybe lean into a whole campaign setting book. Use this anthology to put feelers out.
Amazon says that each of the adventures are tied to a book. The adventures span level 1 to level 16.
https://www.amazon.com/March-Title-Wizards-RPG-Team/dp/0786967226/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=d&d march title&qid=1610424999&sr=8-1
It also has a poster map of Candlekeep (hell yeah!), magic items and monster stat blocks (including "a variety of NPCs"), and detailed descriptions of Candlekeep and its inhabitants.
Please check out my homebrew, I would appreciate feedback:
Spells, Monsters, Subclasses, Races, Arcknight Class, Occultist Class, World, Enigmatic Esoterica forms
Yeah, the more I hear about this, the more I'm into it. I'm down for CSI: Faerun or whatever. I even built a detective character last night just as practice for the mystery stuff. Pallid Elf Rogue Inquisitive is...ludicrously well suited for this.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/profile/SemanticAvenger/characters/42676183
i was wondering the same thing...huge names in that pub including Ed Greenwood and MT Black. I can only imagine WotC had at least one eye on that pub at some point during the production of the new book...otherwise it'd be kind of a slap in the face to both of them if the new book conflicts significantly with that one (let alone potential lore conflicts with a lore creator) . The Companion isn't official, but its as official as unofficial gets (...imo...). I feel like maybe its like what we saw with Eberron where a pdf came out ahead of a full book (although that pdf was official where this one is unofficial). I like the little glowglobes.
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I actually think 5e needs more short adventures. It needs actual modules, not while campaigns that they call “modules.”
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A collection of 5e mystery shorts would be potentially enticing if the base D&D 5e ruleset wasn't absolutely god-*******-awful at dealing with Mystery games. "Roll Investigation until you find the next clue in the sequence" is not a mystery game, it's Yahtzee with weird trappings. Most players are not prepared to play any sort of actual mystery game, most DMs are not prepared to run one, and D&D 5e is not even in the slightest prepared to enable one.
Disappointing yawn. Highly skippable book, unless they do something utterly gobsmack fantastic that probably has no business being in the book to start with.
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maybe they'll address that...you know, throw in a perception check or something
Guide to the Five Factions (PWYW)
Deck of Decks
I know people have divisive attitudes on the guy, but AngryGM really summarized why your Mystery games always fail as perfectly as anyone could want in his Investigative Resolution article. Highly recommend giving it a check if you want to run mystery games and have them suck less. Just brace your keister for comedic abrasiveness. It's kinda his thing.
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