Even simpler would be a toggle to turn off the 24 stuff.
I agree entirely. That would make things extremely easy and make the forums a lot less exhausting to be on again. I would honestly welcome it at this point.
However, it makes no business sense and would absolutely harm future sales of 2024 content to do so. Part of my job includes operating a small team of clinicians in a behavioral health program. One of the key things I teach my clinicians about our program is to not give the patient the option to refuse you. If someone gives a patient the option to engage in behavioral health, it is almost a universal fact that the patient will say no. Once the patient breathes life into that decision by voicing it, they will become so committed to refusing it, they will reject help even when they know it will harm them to refuse it. The opportunity to save a life is gone until their next crisis and we have to cross our fingers that they don't check out of life early once they discharge and are out of our reach. Many people are change averse, even if that change is ultimately good for them.
Why am I bringing this up? WotC has a product that they want you to use. That product is the 2024 toolset. If they give you the option to not use it or even see it, well, that would be like one of my clinicians asking a patient if they want to engage in behavioral health.
So it isn't sabotage, it is marketing, how does that make it better?
I see it as lack of confidence in their new product, and if they are not confident I am not either.
You know, I would not have expected a bad faith response from you. I will update my priors and I am disappointed.
Where is the bad faith?
Semantics and a personal view do not bad faith make.
I completely understand this in wizbro's purview to do this, the bad faith IMHO lies with them. Many, myself included see this as a petty passive aggressive punishment, ie you won't play with my toy like I want you too, so I will break the toy.
It is bad faith because it in no way was this the message I was communicating (which you obviously know) and your sarcastic dismissal was misrepresenting my message so you can stubbornly insist on being angry about something you have no control over. In effect, wasting your energy and proving my point anyway, as the ultimate message was that even if something is an improvement, change averse people will gnash their teeth and rage against it.
It is not a lack of faith in their product either, as even initial critics who have set their rage aside admit that it is in many ways a superior change to the rules. It is a lack of faith in you and how, really, are you proving that this lack of faith is misplaced? How is this whinging proving that if they simply gave you a toggle to switch off 2024, that you would come around to it? It is not just in their purview, it is in their business interest for WotC to prioritize and make ever-present the heavy investment they have made, which will drive play toward that investment. Even if you never buy a single 2024 product, simply playing on the site will put 2024 in front of you and your table so that one day, maybe even soon, someone at your table will ask 'hey, can we give this a try sometime?' It has already happened at two of the three tables I play at. They are not forcing you to do anything, so decidedly not a punishment unless we are so dramatic as to think a single scrolling of the mouse wheel is punishment, or seeing the Legacy tag on a spell to remind you that you are using outdated content is equivalent to a Vicious Mockery, but they are going to make their current product easier to use because it is stupid not to.
I am all in on buying the '24 ruleset just as soon as they provide a complete set of rules, and give me an option to finish my current campaigns without chasing of the players at the tables I play at, no bad faith there.
The bad faith comes in when I am unable to finish the games started in GOODFAITH are no longer an option and players that are not invested in the "crap shoot" that is wizbro since the purchased DDB. If this is how wizbro intends to do business then I expect a mass exodus to their competitors which would be obvious as wizbro can not be trusted to let people finish campaigns started on this platform Beyond their next earnings report.
As I have stated many times, at my tables wizbro's choices on how they have chosen to implement the new rule set has both caused me to follow my groups to alternate platforms while also causing my purchases to be mothballed is not rhetoric, but indeed fact. There is no bad faith in this argument unless you place it there.
Place blame where it makes you warm and fuzzy!
Your players are choosing to abandon your games. They are not being driven off by a Legacy tag. As I said, the conversation on whether to switch happened at two of the three games I am playing. None are making the switch, it was decided. I am playing 2014 rules in all three and dealing with the same absolutely trivial issues as everyone else in this thread is who says it is beyond the pale. Truly, if you think this is bad, let me sit you down and talk to you about electronic medical records (queue up the War Flashback Dog meme).
WotC is not stopping you from finishing your game, your players are and that is a table problem, not a company problem because literally every company would do the exact same thing if they could. Every one and I have a perfect reference to prove it below. There will be no mass exodus. I spend quite a bit of time on Demiplane and the 'tsunami of players' going to other systems during the OGL issue was more like a weak, wet fart.
Project Black Flag had its own third party crisis that caused people to exodus on their exodus and come limping back to DDB even more jaded than before. Look it up. BF turned out to be just a money grab and all the angry D&D players who wanted to stick it to WotC ended up being the suckers. I mentioned this a couple weeks ago but real issues that people should be beating down the door of WotC executives get no face time (removing credits of people from past works got like, 1 page of posts and half were from usual WotC supporters) because D&D players can't come together where it counts; where things impact others instead of themselves. People will bellow about having to scroll their mouse wheel and they may even leave to other systems (I have quite a few I would love to recommend below, actually), but D&D players always come back. Only a handful of the people from the Changelog War are even rageposting still because, much like a selfish lover, most got what they wanted and ran for the door.
But really, I don't fault you for checking out other systems. I think you should. Everyone should. D&D is not the be-all, end-all and people thinking it is is, at least in my opinion, part of why people respond so dramatically when a company makes a sound business decision. Check out Dungeoneering, Mythcraft, Swords and Wizardry, Pathfinder, Starfinder, One Ring, It's Only Magic, Steel & Scale, Crown and Skull, Break!!, Into The Odd, DC 20, Eat the Reich, Bladerunner, Deathmatch Island, The Walking Dead, Daggerheart, Draw Steel, and many others. When the Cosmere RPG releases, I will probably never touch D&D again. There are so many awesome things out there and D&D 5e doesn't even crack my top 10; it's just the one that everyone knows.
I am all in on buying the '24 ruleset just as soon as they provide a complete set of rules, and give me an option to finish my current campaigns without chasing of the players at the tables I play at, no bad faith there.
The bad faith comes in when I am unable to finish the games started in GOODFAITH are no longer an option and players that are not invested in the "crap shoot" that is wizbro since the purchased DDB. If this is how wizbro intends to do business then I expect a mass exodus to their competitors which would be obvious as wizbro can not be trusted to let people finish campaigns started on this platform Beyond their next earnings report.
As I have stated many times, at my tables wizbro's choices on how they have chosen to implement the new rule set has both caused me to follow my groups to alternate platforms while also causing my purchases to be mothballed is not rhetoric, but indeed fact. There is no bad faith in this argument unless you place it there.
Place blame where it makes you warm and fuzzy!
Your players are choosing to abandon your games. They are not being driven off by a Legacy tag. As I said, the conversation on whether to switch happened at two of the three games I am playing. None are making the switch, it was decided. I am playing 2014 rules in all three and dealing with the same absolutely trivial issues as everyone else in this thread is who says it is beyond the pale. Truly, if you think this is bad, let me sit you down and talk to you about electronic medical records (queue up the War Flashback Dog meme).
WotC is not stopping you from finishing your game, your players are and that is a table problem, not a company problem because literally every company would do the exact same thing if they could. Every one and I have a perfect reference to prove it below. There will be no mass exodus. I spend quite a bit of time on Demiplane and the 'tsunami of players' going to other systems during the OGL issue was more like a weak, wet fart.
Project Black Flag had its own third party crisis that caused people to exodus on their exodus and come limping back to DDB even more jaded than before. Look it up. BF turned out to be just a money grab and all the angry D&D players who wanted to stick it to WotC ended up being the suckers. I mentioned this a couple weeks ago but real issues that people should be beating down the door of WotC executives get no face time (removing credits of people from past works got like, 1 page of posts and half were from usual WotC supporters) because D&D players can't come together where it counts; where things impact others instead of themselves. People will bellow about having to scroll their mouse wheel and they may even leave to other systems (I have quite a few I would love to recommend below, actually), but D&D players always come back. Only a handful of the people from the Changelog War are even rageposting still because, much like a selfish lover, most got what they wanted and ran for the door.
But really, I don't fault you for checking out other systems. I think you should. Everyone should. D&D is not the be-all, end-all and people thinking it is is, at least in my opinion, part of why people respond so dramatically when a company makes a sound business decision. Check out Dungeoneering, Mythcraft, Swords and Wizardry, Pathfinder, Starfinder, One Ring, It's Only Magic, Steel & Scale, Crown and Skull, Break!!, Into The Odd, DC 20, Eat the Reich, Bladerunner, Deathmatch Island, The Walking Dead, Daggerheart, Draw Steel, and many others. When the Cosmere RPG releases, I will probably never touch D&D again. There are so many awesome things out there and D&D 5e doesn't even crack my top 10; it's just the one that everyone knows.
If they are successfully following their groups to alternative platforms, then their groups are clearly not rejecting them.
I am all in on buying the '24 ruleset just as soon as they provide a complete set of rules, and give me an option to finish my current campaigns without chasing of the players at the tables I play at, no bad faith there.
The bad faith comes in when I am unable to finish the games started in GOODFAITH are no longer an option and players that are not invested in the "crap shoot" that is wizbro since the purchased DDB. If this is how wizbro intends to do business then I expect a mass exodus to their competitors which would be obvious as wizbro can not be trusted to let people finish campaigns started on this platform Beyond their next earnings report.
As I have stated many times, at my tables wizbro's choices on how they have chosen to implement the new rule set has both caused me to follow my groups to alternate platforms while also causing my purchases to be mothballed is not rhetoric, but indeed fact. There is no bad faith in this argument unless you place it there.
Place blame where it makes you warm and fuzzy!
Your players are choosing to abandon your games. They are not being driven off by a Legacy tag. As I said, the conversation on whether to switch happened at two of the three games I am playing. None are making the switch, it was decided. I am playing 2014 rules in all three and dealing with the same absolutely trivial issues as everyone else in this thread is who says it is beyond the pale. Truly, if you think this is bad, let me sit you down and talk to you about electronic medical records (queue up the War Flashback Dog meme).
WotC is not stopping you from finishing your game, your players are and that is a table problem, not a company problem because literally every company would do the exact same thing if they could. Every one and I have a perfect reference to prove it below. There will be no mass exodus. I spend quite a bit of time on Demiplane and the 'tsunami of players' going to other systems during the OGL issue was more like a weak, wet fart.
Project Black Flag had its own third party crisis that caused people to exodus on their exodus and come limping back to DDB even more jaded than before. Look it up. BF turned out to be just a money grab and all the angry D&D players who wanted to stick it to WotC ended up being the suckers. I mentioned this a couple weeks ago but real issues that people should be beating down the door of WotC executives get no face time (removing credits of people from past works got like, 1 page of posts and half were from usual WotC supporters) because D&D players can't come together where it counts; where things impact others instead of themselves. People will bellow about having to scroll their mouse wheel and they may even leave to other systems (I have quite a few I would love to recommend below, actually), but D&D players always come back. Only a handful of the people from the Changelog War are even rageposting still because, much like a selfish lover, most got what they wanted and ran for the door.
But really, I don't fault you for checking out other systems. I think you should. Everyone should. D&D is not the be-all, end-all and people thinking it is is, at least in my opinion, part of why people respond so dramatically when a company makes a sound business decision. Check out Dungeoneering, Mythcraft, Swords and Wizardry, Pathfinder, Starfinder, One Ring, It's Only Magic, Steel & Scale, Crown and Skull, Break!!, Into The Odd, DC 20, Eat the Reich, Bladerunner, Deathmatch Island, The Walking Dead, Daggerheart, Draw Steel, and many others. When the Cosmere RPG releases, I will probably never touch D&D again. There are so many awesome things out there and D&D 5e doesn't even crack my top 10; it's just the one that everyone knows.
If they are successfully following their groups to alternative platforms, then their groups are clearly not rejecting them.
Not a single word talked about rejecting a person. I think there is some motivated reasoning at play here, but thank you for your insight.
I still say a toggle would solve far more issues than it would create, it isn't like the new rules won't sell because there is a toggle to turn them off, though there are plenty of people that will not buy anything until there is a toggle from several threads on this site alone.
This is the only thing I will address because I agree with it, just like I did when our conversation started. It does solve a lot of problems. More than it creates too. But it does not drive business toward their product, so while the number of problems solved vs created favors the toggle in a vacuum, the problems are weighted very differently in a practical business sense. The one problem it creates is a big problem; which is that players will use it and not, therefore, be incentivized to consume 2024 content of any kind. For this reason, I do not believe it will happen. It might, I just don't think it would be a good idea to count on them doing it. If that means you need a vacation from D&D, please see my above recommendations. There are things similar to D&D there and some things very different. All are worth trying.
This marketing strategy chases off sales too, but I guess if there is no way to quantify the loss of business to the sales made from sheer aggravation it is hard to say it doesn't work, but just as hard to say it does. It is just sad to that as a business plan, aggravate the customer to get them to buy the product. That is a guaranteed way to lose some sales, a toggle may not push people to buy the new books, but it will chase far fewer away from it. I guess I just remember the days when the product was so good you just had to let people know it was available and they would buy it, this new marketing strategy of aggravate until they rage buy or quit is very odd, but D&D is not the only place it is used. It is very unnecessary if you have a really good product. This type of marketing has many parallels in human behaviour and not very many are positive.
That's a point I made previously... wearing down your customers until they buy your new product is not a great marketing strategy. I would think this would have the opposite of the intended outcome.
I would love to have a toggle that hides all legacy content. It could go next to the toggle that hides all 2024 content. Leave the toggles alone and you get to see all of the content. Seems simple enough to me.
I would love to have a toggle that hides all legacy content. It could go next to the toggle that hides all 2024 content. Leave the toggles alone and you get to see all of the content. Seems simple enough to me.
Yet will we get that disable all 2024+ content toggle?
It does seem like a fair number of people are wanting that toggle right now more than they really want the new rules, so why not give the toggle while working on the site to prepare it and the community for the changes to come?
Only if the marketing triggers rage? As a person not consumed by rage in this way, it's just normal marketing to me and, at worst, I'm just neutral buying (but actually I'm rather happy with the changes, so I guess I'm joy buying?)
I imagine some of this is because they planned to just update the rules until late August. Likely because of limitations in how the site was coded, so double entries are hard—they need to fix every link in every book as it wasn't future proofed for multiple variants of the same rules.
There wasn't time to do it all in the last month, so some changes will be rolled back as the staff gets it done. But coding takes time.
I would love to have a toggle that hides all legacy content. It could go next to the toggle that hides all 2024 content. Leave the toggles alone and you get to see all of the content. Seems simple enough to me.
Yet will we get that disable all 2024+ content toggle?
It does seem like a fair number of people are wanting that toggle right now more than they really want the new rules, so why not give the toggle while working on the site to prepare it and the community for the changes to come?
So you know how to underline text, so? Are you telling us a toggle is coming soon?
I am telling you that if you had actually read what I had typed, you would understand that I would llike for you to have your requested toggle. The coding that we both want goes hand in hand with one another and we would both benefit from it.
So you know how to underline text, so? Are you telling us a toggle is coming soon?
I feel the text was underlined because your response seemed to indicate you didn't read or comprehend what was written.
I read it perfectly clear, like you they would rather individual’s like myself just sit down and be quiet right?
If you, or anyone else for that matter don’t care for the conversation, why are ya’ll so hell bent on trying to convince people that what they want is too much to ask for?
And that ask is for a toggle that disables 2024 content, so 2014 can be used without needless waste of time separating the two.
And, Btw you still never answered my previous question in a previous post, did you not read or comprehend what was posted?
Ah, I should have read down the thread further. Good afternoon to you.
I was inspired to purchase the 2024 rules by the playtest material and the follow up videos going over the changes. I feel that most the changes to the rules have been for the better. DnDBeyond may be owned by WotC, but it is a product and I can be perfectly happy with one product and unhappy with another from the same company. In this particular case, I would love a toggle for this product to make sorting through other the products easier. If that doesn't happen, then this product has less value to me than it would otherwise.
My dad taught me to play with pen and paper character sheets, and I am perfectly content to use that method. I can and do live without the character builder and as the site becomes more cluttered I may or may not invest more into this product. I am not angry about it though.
I was inspired to purchase the 2024 rules by the playtest material and the follow up videos going over the changes. I feel that most the changes to the rules have been for the better. DnDBeyond may be owned by WotC, but it is a product and I can be perfectly happy with one product and unhappy with another from the same company. In this particular case, I would love a toggle for this product to make sorting through other the products easier. If that doesn't happen, then this product has less value to me than it would otherwise.
My dad taught me to play with pen and paper character sheets, and I am perfectly content to use that method. I can and do live without the character builder and as the site becomes more cluttered I may or may not invest more into this product. I am not angry about it though.
So the spamming of the 2014 rules with the new stuff had no influence on you purchasing the '24 PHB?
Sorry but no.
Edit: I can see how it might be frustrating to those that are finishing up 2014 campaigns that DnDBeyond mixed the rules together. They really should have left the 2014 builder version intact for people playing 2014 games and used a copy as the base for the 2024 version. Kind of like how you can have Windows 10 and 11 versions that are available at the same time. However that doesn't have an impact on me personally. I just don't want to have 2 of everything to dig through when I do searches.
ya know, after 45 years and all the assorted edition was, my feelings on the whole thing can best be summed up by saying this:
The character builder should only work with 2024 content.
It is obvious they still want people to be able to use options from Tasha's and Xanathar's and other prior publications, and they want folks to be able to use their homebrew built off the old rules. Obvious because they are trying to figure out how to make that happen, and they did not, in fact, just shut down all the 2014 content.
the same argument for keeping 2014 around is the basic argument that says they should add every edition of the game into the website. Want to play 3.5 on DDB? Cool! Yay! Want to play 0e? Cool, yay. Want to play the completely dropped and kicked to the side Basic series? Sure, fine, go for it.
Notice how that isn't in the works, how no one is really calling for that? Where are the threats to boycott because you can't play 4e on DDB?
I don't mean in the past, I mean now.
If you don't think they should do that, should put in the effort to support old versions of D&D, then it seems to me that folks should feel the same way about the 2014 version. It is the Old Version of the game. It did its time, it served its role.
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It is bad faith because it in no way was this the message I was communicating (which you obviously know) and your sarcastic dismissal was misrepresenting my message so you can stubbornly insist on being angry about something you have no control over. In effect, wasting your energy and proving my point anyway, as the ultimate message was that even if something is an improvement, change averse people will gnash their teeth and rage against it.
It is not a lack of faith in their product either, as even initial critics who have set their rage aside admit that it is in many ways a superior change to the rules. It is a lack of faith in you and how, really, are you proving that this lack of faith is misplaced? How is this whinging proving that if they simply gave you a toggle to switch off 2024, that you would come around to it? It is not just in their purview, it is in their business interest for WotC to prioritize and make ever-present the heavy investment they have made, which will drive play toward that investment. Even if you never buy a single 2024 product, simply playing on the site will put 2024 in front of you and your table so that one day, maybe even soon, someone at your table will ask 'hey, can we give this a try sometime?' It has already happened at two of the three tables I play at. They are not forcing you to do anything, so decidedly not a punishment unless we are so dramatic as to think a single scrolling of the mouse wheel is punishment, or seeing the Legacy tag on a spell to remind you that you are using outdated content is equivalent to a Vicious Mockery, but they are going to make their current product easier to use because it is stupid not to.
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Your players are choosing to abandon your games. They are not being driven off by a Legacy tag. As I said, the conversation on whether to switch happened at two of the three games I am playing. None are making the switch, it was decided. I am playing 2014 rules in all three and dealing with the same absolutely trivial issues as everyone else in this thread is who says it is beyond the pale. Truly, if you think this is bad, let me sit you down and talk to you about electronic medical records (queue up the War Flashback Dog meme).
WotC is not stopping you from finishing your game, your players are and that is a table problem, not a company problem because literally every company would do the exact same thing if they could. Every one and I have a perfect reference to prove it below. There will be no mass exodus. I spend quite a bit of time on Demiplane and the 'tsunami of players' going to other systems during the OGL issue was more like a weak, wet fart.
Project Black Flag had its own third party crisis that caused people to exodus on their exodus and come limping back to DDB even more jaded than before. Look it up. BF turned out to be just a money grab and all the angry D&D players who wanted to stick it to WotC ended up being the suckers. I mentioned this a couple weeks ago but real issues that people should be beating down the door of WotC executives get no face time (removing credits of people from past works got like, 1 page of posts and half were from usual WotC supporters) because D&D players can't come together where it counts; where things impact others instead of themselves. People will bellow about having to scroll their mouse wheel and they may even leave to other systems (I have quite a few I would love to recommend below, actually), but D&D players always come back. Only a handful of the people from the Changelog War are even rageposting still because, much like a selfish lover, most got what they wanted and ran for the door.
But really, I don't fault you for checking out other systems. I think you should. Everyone should. D&D is not the be-all, end-all and people thinking it is is, at least in my opinion, part of why people respond so dramatically when a company makes a sound business decision. Check out Dungeoneering, Mythcraft, Swords and Wizardry, Pathfinder, Starfinder, One Ring, It's Only Magic, Steel & Scale, Crown and Skull, Break!!, Into The Odd, DC 20, Eat the Reich, Bladerunner, Deathmatch Island, The Walking Dead, Daggerheart, Draw Steel, and many others. When the Cosmere RPG releases, I will probably never touch D&D again. There are so many awesome things out there and D&D 5e doesn't even crack my top 10; it's just the one that everyone knows.
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If they are successfully following their groups to alternative platforms, then their groups are clearly not rejecting them.
Not a single word talked about rejecting a person. I think there is some motivated reasoning at play here, but thank you for your insight.
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This is the only thing I will address because I agree with it, just like I did when our conversation started. It does solve a lot of problems. More than it creates too. But it does not drive business toward their product, so while the number of problems solved vs created favors the toggle in a vacuum, the problems are weighted very differently in a practical business sense. The one problem it creates is a big problem; which is that players will use it and not, therefore, be incentivized to consume 2024 content of any kind. For this reason, I do not believe it will happen. It might, I just don't think it would be a good idea to count on them doing it. If that means you need a vacation from D&D, please see my above recommendations. There are things similar to D&D there and some things very different. All are worth trying.
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That's a point I made previously... wearing down your customers until they buy your new product is not a great marketing strategy. I would think this would have the opposite of the intended outcome.
I would love to have a toggle that hides all legacy content. It could go next to the toggle that hides all 2024 content. Leave the toggles alone and you get to see all of the content. Seems simple enough to me.
Or....and hear me out here......maybe don't just focus on the rage dichotomy? People can quit or buy predicated on a wide range of feelings.
Only if the marketing triggers rage? As a person not consumed by rage in this way, it's just normal marketing to me and, at worst, I'm just neutral buying (but actually I'm rather happy with the changes, so I guess I'm joy buying?)
I feel the text was underlined because your response seemed to indicate you didn't read or comprehend what was written.
You may want to take a breath and read again. They were agreeing with you and saying that their wish would be great alongside yours.
I imagine some of this is because they planned to just update the rules until late August. Likely because of limitations in how the site was coded, so double entries are hard—they need to fix every link in every book as it wasn't future proofed for multiple variants of the same rules.
There wasn't time to do it all in the last month, so some changes will be rolled back as the staff gets it done. But coding takes time.
I am telling you that if you had actually read what I had typed, you would understand that I would llike for you to have your requested toggle. The coding that we both want goes hand in hand with one another and we would both benefit from it.
Ah, I should have read down the thread further. Good afternoon to you.
I found joy in the product and the marketing has seemed pretty standard to this point. It has not sparked rage.
Same.
I was inspired to purchase the 2024 rules by the playtest material and the follow up videos going over the changes. I feel that most the changes to the rules have been for the better. DnDBeyond may be owned by WotC, but it is a product and I can be perfectly happy with one product and unhappy with another from the same company. In this particular case, I would love a toggle for this product to make sorting through other the products easier. If that doesn't happen, then this product has less value to me than it would otherwise.
My dad taught me to play with pen and paper character sheets, and I am perfectly content to use that method. I can and do live without the character builder and as the site becomes more cluttered I may or may not invest more into this product. I am not angry about it though.
Sorry but no.
Edit: I can see how it might be frustrating to those that are finishing up 2014 campaigns that DnDBeyond mixed the rules together. They really should have left the 2014 builder version intact for people playing 2014 games and used a copy as the base for the 2024 version. Kind of like how you can have Windows 10 and 11 versions that are available at the same time. However that doesn't have an impact on me personally. I just don't want to have 2 of everything to dig through when I do searches.
ya know, after 45 years and all the assorted edition was, my feelings on the whole thing can best be summed up by saying this:
The character builder should only work with 2024 content.
It is obvious they still want people to be able to use options from Tasha's and Xanathar's and other prior publications, and they want folks to be able to use their homebrew built off the old rules. Obvious because they are trying to figure out how to make that happen, and they did not, in fact, just shut down all the 2014 content.
the same argument for keeping 2014 around is the basic argument that says they should add every edition of the game into the website. Want to play 3.5 on DDB? Cool! Yay! Want to play 0e? Cool, yay. Want to play the completely dropped and kicked to the side Basic series? Sure, fine, go for it.
Notice how that isn't in the works, how no one is really calling for that? Where are the threats to boycott because you can't play 4e on DDB?
I don't mean in the past, I mean now.
If you don't think they should do that, should put in the effort to support old versions of D&D, then it seems to me that folks should feel the same way about the 2014 version. It is the Old Version of the game. It did its time, it served its role.
Just me. But I prefer my saltiness mixed with sweetness, i guess.
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