A wizard has the ability to copy scrolls into a spell book, that I understand.
So what can you do with a cantrip scroll, can you learn it, can you copy to your spellbook then learn it, can you copy to your spell book then make multiple copies of it?
You can cast them.. but unless you are allowed the new option to switch cantrips {I think from your book} you aren't required and maybe allowed to even have them in your book to know them. But if you make scrolls of your cantrips.. you don't really need them.. BUT if you trade your scrolls with another... You have more options. and so do they.
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Yes that's what I initially thought, but then the book states quite clearly that they are Level 0 Spell Scrolls and then goes onto to tell you what you can do with Spell Scrolls without excluding them.
So if you follow the rules as written, you can copy them to your spell book.
Then I hit the wall, you don't cast cantrips from your spell book, you don't prepare them from your spell book.
Either I am missing something or there are no rules on the subject of Cantrip Scrolls.
But just because they are spell scrolls, doesn't mean the cantrips are counted as spells.. at least that is the little I remember from our admins' discussion on it.
My understanding is that cantrips don't need to be prepared to be known.. but what you put in spell scrolls must be known. NOW if you have the Tashas
3rd-level wizard feature
You have scribed a set of arcane formulas in your spellbook that you can use to formulate a cantrip in your mind. Whenever you finish a long rest and consult those formulas in your spellbook, you can replace one wizard cantrip you know with another cantrip from the wizard spell list.
at that point you can put them in the book.
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Itinerant Deputy Shire-reave Tomas Burrfoot - world walker, Raft-captain, speaker to his dead
Toddy Shelfungus- Rider of the Order of Ill Luck, Speaker to Friends of Friends, and Horribly big nosed
Jarl Archi of Jenisis Glade Fee- Noble Knight of the Dragonborn Goldcrest Clan, Sorcerer of the Noble Investigator;y; Knightly order of the Wolfhound
Not arguing with what you are saying, that's how I understood it too.
But look at the rules for spell scrolls, specifically. Cantrip Scrolls are not excluded from rules of copying to the spell book in fact they go out of their way to include them.
So there you have a low level spell in your book that for some inexplicable reason you can do nothing with? Surely that isn't the intention?
You can cast them.. but unless you are allowed the new option to switch cantrips {I think from your book} you aren't required and maybe allowed to even have them in your book to know them. But if you make scrolls of your cantrips.. you don't really need them.. BUT if you trade your scrolls with another... You have more options. and so do they.
....as far as wizards go, that new rule allows you can change your cantrips every long rest so there's really nothing to trade for as far as cantrips go since you can just make your own.
IMO, cantrip scrolls are good for mending and encode thoughts...I think it'd be handy to have those around for whatever reason. just super situational and wouldn't otherwise have it in my head.
but my spellbook has all sorts of doodling in it, many of which are cantrips....they help fill out whitespace. But yeah, the new rule says you have scribles in your spellbook which allows you to formulate cantrips - not that they're actually cantrips.
A wizard has the ability to copy scrolls into a spell book, that I understand.
So what can you do with a cantrip scroll, can you learn it, can you copy to your spellbook then learn it, can you copy to your spell book then make multiple copies of it?
Or is it just a one off spell?
Sorry can't work it out :)
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You can cast them.. but unless you are allowed the new option to switch cantrips {I think from your book} you aren't required and maybe allowed to even have them in your book to know them.
But if you make scrolls of your cantrips.. you don't really need them..
BUT if you trade your scrolls with another... You have more options. and so do they.
Itinerant Deputy Shire-reave Tomas Burrfoot - world walker, Raft-captain, speaker to his dead
Toddy Shelfungus- Rider of the Order of Ill Luck, Speaker to Friends of Friends, and Horribly big nosed
Jarl Archi of Jenisis Glade Fee- Noble Knight of the Dragonborn Goldcrest Clan, Sorcerer of the Noble Investigator;y; Knightly order of the Wolfhound
Yes that's what I initially thought, but then the book states quite clearly that they are Level 0 Spell Scrolls and then goes onto to tell you what you can do with Spell Scrolls without excluding them.
So if you follow the rules as written, you can copy them to your spell book.
Then I hit the wall, you don't cast cantrips from your spell book, you don't prepare them from your spell book.
Either I am missing something or there are no rules on the subject of Cantrip Scrolls.
Dum Vivimus vivamus
But just because they are spell scrolls, doesn't mean the cantrips are counted as spells.. at least that is the little I remember from our admins' discussion on it.
My understanding is that cantrips don't need to be prepared to be known.. but what you put in spell scrolls must be known.
NOW if you have the Tashas
3rd-level wizard feature
You have scribed a set of arcane formulas in your spellbook that you can use to formulate a cantrip in your mind. Whenever you finish a long rest and consult those formulas in your spellbook, you can replace one wizard cantrip you know with another cantrip from the wizard spell list.
at that point you can put them in the book.
Itinerant Deputy Shire-reave Tomas Burrfoot - world walker, Raft-captain, speaker to his dead
Toddy Shelfungus- Rider of the Order of Ill Luck, Speaker to Friends of Friends, and Horribly big nosed
Jarl Archi of Jenisis Glade Fee- Noble Knight of the Dragonborn Goldcrest Clan, Sorcerer of the Noble Investigator;y; Knightly order of the Wolfhound
Not arguing with what you are saying, that's how I understood it too.
But look at the rules for spell scrolls, specifically. Cantrip Scrolls are not excluded from rules of copying to the spell book in fact they go out of their way to include them.
So there you have a low level spell in your book that for some inexplicable reason you can do nothing with? Surely that isn't the intention?
Dum Vivimus vivamus
....as far as wizards go, that new rule allows you can change your cantrips every long rest so there's really nothing to trade for as far as cantrips go since you can just make your own.
IMO, cantrip scrolls are good for mending and encode thoughts...I think it'd be handy to have those around for whatever reason. just super situational and wouldn't otherwise have it in my head.
but my spellbook has all sorts of doodling in it, many of which are cantrips....they help fill out whitespace. But yeah, the new rule says you have scribles in your spellbook which allows you to formulate cantrips - not that they're actually cantrips.
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