The Life Cleirc's capstone ability, Supreme Healing, has the following effect:
Starting at 17th level, when you would normally roll one or more dice to restore hit points with a spell, you instead use the highest number possible for each die.
I am curious how this would interact with the spell Life Transference, which allows you to roll dice to damage yourself and then heal another creature. Because the hit points restored to the other creature is based off of the damage you take, does this mean you would always maximize the damage to yourself when casting this spell? Or, because the hit points are based off of "the necrotic damage you take" (which presumably could be reduced by resistances), does this mean the healing is actually decoupled from the damage dice and therefor Supreme Healing would not maximize them?
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... a quick correction before getting to the answer: Life Transference contains text that exclude the damage being "reduced in any way," as in, resistances would not result in a reduction. I believe the intent for that wording is specifically for Wizard School of Necromancy, who gain Necrotic resistance at level 10.
THP is not a reduction, so THP would be consumed before your actual HP (that's probably the preferred way to use LT).
Because the dice roll on LT is for necrotic damage, vs rolling for healing, I do not think interacts with Supreme Healing. If a DM ruled it DID interact, then the slippery slope of Vampiric Touch now dealing max necrotic damage against an enemy in exchange for max healing received, which I do not believe is the intent.
... a quick correction before getting to the answer: Life Transference contains text that exclude the damage being "reduced in any way," as in, resistances would not result in a reduction. I believe the intent for that wording is specifically for Wizard School of Necromancy, who gain Necrotic resistance at level 10.
THP is not a reduction, so THP would be consumed before your actual HP (that's probably the preferred way to use LT).
Because the dice roll on LT is for necrotic damage, vs rolling for healing, I do not think interacts with Supreme Healing. If a DM ruled it DID interact, then the slippery slope of Vampiric Touch now dealing max necrotic damage against an enemy in exchange for max healing received, which I do not believe is the intent.
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Ah, thats a good counterpoint with Vampiric Touch. Did not think about that
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... I suppose Vampiric Touch is not available to the Life Domain, so maybe not a great counterpoint ... but same thought on the ruling. Only the dice rolled by the Life Cleric for specifically for Healing would qualify, as I understand it.
... I suppose Vampiric Touch is not available to the Life Domain, so maybe not a great counterpoint ... but same thought on the ruling. Only the dice rolled by the Life Cleric for specifically for Healing would qualify, as I understand it.
I think its solid. The mechanics behind the two (necrotic damage rolled, then scaling to heal) are about the same.
I do wonder if there is a wonky way for a 17th level Life Cleric to obtain Vampiric Touch. Maybe a powerful magic item? IDK though.
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The Life Cleirc's capstone ability, Supreme Healing, has the following effect:
Starting at 17th level, when you would normally roll one or more dice to restore hit points with a spell, you instead use the highest number possible for each die.
I am curious how this would interact with the spell Life Transference, which allows you to roll dice to damage yourself and then heal another creature. Because the hit points restored to the other creature is based off of the damage you take, does this mean you would always maximize the damage to yourself when casting this spell? Or, because the hit points are based off of "the necrotic damage you take" (which presumably could be reduced by resistances), does this mean the healing is actually decoupled from the damage dice and therefor Supreme Healing would not maximize them?
It doesn't interact. When you roll for Life Transference you roll damage to yourself. The 17th level life clereic buff only works on spells that directly restore hit points like cure woulds and prayer of healing.
The Life Cleirc's capstone ability, Supreme Healing, has the following effect:
I am curious how this would interact with the spell Life Transference, which allows you to roll dice to damage yourself and then heal another creature. Because the hit points restored to the other creature is based off of the damage you take, does this mean you would always maximize the damage to yourself when casting this spell? Or, because the hit points are based off of "the necrotic damage you take" (which presumably could be reduced by resistances), does this mean the healing is actually decoupled from the damage dice and therefor Supreme Healing would not maximize them?
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... a quick correction before getting to the answer: Life Transference contains text that exclude the damage being "reduced in any way," as in, resistances would not result in a reduction. I believe the intent for that wording is specifically for Wizard School of Necromancy, who gain Necrotic resistance at level 10.
THP is not a reduction, so THP would be consumed before your actual HP (that's probably the preferred way to use LT).
Because the dice roll on LT is for necrotic damage, vs rolling for healing, I do not think interacts with Supreme Healing. If a DM ruled it DID interact, then the slippery slope of Vampiric Touch now dealing max necrotic damage against an enemy in exchange for max healing received, which I do not believe is the intent.
Hope that helps!
Ah, thats a good counterpoint with Vampiric Touch. Did not think about that
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... I suppose Vampiric Touch is not available to the Life Domain, so maybe not a great counterpoint ... but same thought on the ruling. Only the dice rolled by the Life Cleric for specifically for Healing would qualify, as I understand it.
I think its solid. The mechanics behind the two (necrotic damage rolled, then scaling to heal) are about the same.
I do wonder if there is a wonky way for a 17th level Life Cleric to obtain Vampiric Touch. Maybe a powerful magic item? IDK though.
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It doesn't interact. When you roll for Life Transference you roll damage to yourself. The 17th level life clereic buff only works on spells that directly restore hit points like cure woulds and prayer of healing.
Life transference is a direct heal.