The ad dismissed flag is stored as a browser side cookie. This means if you open the site on a different device or browser, in incognito mode, or clear your cookies, it will appear again.
Ah yes, because I want to purchase the book now that I'm on a different machine! This is a disingenuous argument. Change the settings.
I'm not sure what you mean by disingenuous in this context; I'm not lying or being false in describing how the system works. The flag for dismissing the advert is set at the browser cookie level rather than the account level. This is because if it was set at the account level, you would see the advert every time you loaded the site without being logged in. This would lead to the average user seeing the advert more, not less.
It's disingenuous to suggest that there is no solution, or that this is the closest to a good solution. Also, speaking of cookies, a good number of people just stay logged in. It needs to recognize that if I dismissed it in one place, I don't need it popping up again in another. And this is of course to say nothing of the fact that you refuse to acknowledge that it's an advertisement, which subscribers aren't supposed to be subjected to. These things get spammed at us way too frequently, and make me less inclined to purchase anything.
It's disingenuous to suggest that there is no solution, or that this is the closest to a good solution. Also, speaking of cookies, a good number of people just stay logged in. It needs to recognize that if I dismissed it in one place, I don't need it popping up again in another. And this is of course to say nothing of the fact that you refuse to acknowledge that it's an advertisement, which subscribers aren't supposed to be subjected to. These things get spammed at us way too frequently, and make me less inclined to purchase anything.
I apologise if it seemed I was suggesting there was no solution, or suggesting a solution at all. I was merely explaining the mechanism by which the banner worked in hopes of providing some insight into why it appears with the frequency that it does.
I also wasn't aware I was being asked to acknowledge it was an advertisement. It is indeed an advertisement, no question. D&D Beyond does not show third party advertisements to any user, subscription or not. DDB does, and always has, promoted its own offers, events, and new releases to subscribers and non-subscribers alike. The now defunct subscriber feature of 'no adverts' applied to now non-existent third party advertisements.
I once against apologise if I did not address any points you wanted addressing. I was not attempting to discuss solutions, nor intentionally refusing to acknowledge anything. I was simply explaining why the banner occurs with the frequency that it does.
Cookies, as annoying and privacy-invading as they are, are how a system recognizes 'you'. Like Davyd said, the devs have a choice - they can set "I've seen this, make it go away please" flags as cookies on a local machine, which makes that machine proof against future ads but means you'll see them if you access DDB across multiple devices. Or the devs can set "ad dismissed" as an account flag, in which case your account is proof against future ads but if you log out then you're back to banner ads everywhere.
I assume that Davyd's citing of 'the average user' is backed by metrics on the DDB side that we, as ordinary users, don't get that indicate the majority of DDB users do not log in. That seems exceptionally weird to forum-dwelling constants like you or I who leave our accounts open all'a time, but a lot of folks explicitly log in and then log out when they're done. They'd see the ad every single time they came back to log in until they got into their account. It's better for those folks to have the 'ad dismissed' set on a local machine level.
There is no perfect solution, sadly. There's just clicking the "Yes I know Stirxhaven is out, no I don't want to buy it" button seventeen times until it takes.
Heh. They do advertise 'no ads!' as part of their subscription benefits. Their subscription is already very light on benefits as it is, and frankly I have seen the Strixhaven ad more than I see most of their 'New Book, buy it please!' bars. I just generally assume it's my fault when an ad shows up three dozen times like that.
That and on mobile (I always forget there's people out there that eschew desktop rigs and do everything on mobile no matter how abhorrent the idea is to me personally), the banner ad obscures the menu bar and makes using the site more difficult, so for those sorts I can see where having it show up a bunch would swiftly become a noteworthy annoyance. Could be that there wasd a glitch in the ad this time and it's worth letting DDB investigate it, mebbe? Dunno. Does seem weird that we've got two threads on the same issue for this one banner ad.
Heh. They do advertise 'no ads!' as part of their subscription benefits. Their subscription is already very light on benefits as it is, and frankly I have seen the Strixhaven ad more than I see most of their 'New Book, buy it please!' bars. I just generally assume it's my fault when an ad shows up three dozen times like that.
I did actually check the subscription benefits before making this claim and didn't see any mention of no ads being a current subscription benefit. I believe it used to be, back when D&D Beyond served up third party adverts for non-subscribers.
As for the frequency of the banner ad in general, that is feedback I have passed along as regardless of how it's implemented, if it elicits a negative response, it's worth being raised.
It displays again whenever I restart my machine. I'm not on a different machine, I'm not on a different browser, my connection wasn't reset, I haven't deleted my cookies. Apologies for the delayed reply, I've been at work.
I don't mind seeing them once, that's fine because it reminds me there's a new product coming. I just don't want to see them every time I restart my windows machine.
The bar ads are probably the most non-intrusive ads I have seen on any website ever. Are we really going to war over this?
I don't mind seeing them once, that's fine because it reminds me there's a new product coming. I just don't want to see them every time I restart my windows machine.
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
It's common ux etiquette that when the user closes a window, it means "Message received, I've chosen to close it, please don't show me again."
Instead, I seem to get the ad every couple of hours. I've dropped 500 dollars on your software, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GOD STOP SHOWING ME THE DAMN AD
The ad dismissed flag is stored as a browser side cookie. This means if you open the site on a different device or browser, in incognito mode, or clear your cookies, it will appear again.
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
Ah yes, because I want to purchase the book now that I'm on a different machine! This is a disingenuous argument. Change the settings.
Birgit | Shifter | Sorcerer | Dragonlords
Shayone | Hobgoblin | Sorcerer | Netherdeep
I'm not sure what you mean by disingenuous in this context; I'm not lying or being false in describing how the system works. The flag for dismissing the advert is set at the browser cookie level rather than the account level. This is because if it was set at the account level, you would see the advert every time you loaded the site without being logged in. This would lead to the average user seeing the advert more, not less.
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
It's disingenuous to suggest that there is no solution, or that this is the closest to a good solution. Also, speaking of cookies, a good number of people just stay logged in. It needs to recognize that if I dismissed it in one place, I don't need it popping up again in another. And this is of course to say nothing of the fact that you refuse to acknowledge that it's an advertisement, which subscribers aren't supposed to be subjected to. These things get spammed at us way too frequently, and make me less inclined to purchase anything.
Birgit | Shifter | Sorcerer | Dragonlords
Shayone | Hobgoblin | Sorcerer | Netherdeep
I apologise if it seemed I was suggesting there was no solution, or suggesting a solution at all. I was merely explaining the mechanism by which the banner worked in hopes of providing some insight into why it appears with the frequency that it does.
I also wasn't aware I was being asked to acknowledge it was an advertisement. It is indeed an advertisement, no question. D&D Beyond does not show third party advertisements to any user, subscription or not. DDB does, and always has, promoted its own offers, events, and new releases to subscribers and non-subscribers alike. The now defunct subscriber feature of 'no adverts' applied to now non-existent third party advertisements.
I once against apologise if I did not address any points you wanted addressing. I was not attempting to discuss solutions, nor intentionally refusing to acknowledge anything. I was simply explaining why the banner occurs with the frequency that it does.
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
Cookies, as annoying and privacy-invading as they are, are how a system recognizes 'you'. Like Davyd said, the devs have a choice - they can set "I've seen this, make it go away please" flags as cookies on a local machine, which makes that machine proof against future ads but means you'll see them if you access DDB across multiple devices. Or the devs can set "ad dismissed" as an account flag, in which case your account is proof against future ads but if you log out then you're back to banner ads everywhere.
I assume that Davyd's citing of 'the average user' is backed by metrics on the DDB side that we, as ordinary users, don't get that indicate the majority of DDB users do not log in. That seems exceptionally weird to forum-dwelling constants like you or I who leave our accounts open all'a time, but a lot of folks explicitly log in and then log out when they're done. They'd see the ad every single time they came back to log in until they got into their account. It's better for those folks to have the 'ad dismissed' set on a local machine level.
There is no perfect solution, sadly. There's just clicking the "Yes I know Stirxhaven is out, no I don't want to buy it" button seventeen times until it takes.
Please do not contact or message me.
Heh. They do advertise 'no ads!' as part of their subscription benefits. Their subscription is already very light on benefits as it is, and frankly I have seen the Strixhaven ad more than I see most of their 'New Book, buy it please!' bars. I just generally assume it's my fault when an ad shows up three dozen times like that.
That and on mobile (I always forget there's people out there that eschew desktop rigs and do everything on mobile no matter how abhorrent the idea is to me personally), the banner ad obscures the menu bar and makes using the site more difficult, so for those sorts I can see where having it show up a bunch would swiftly become a noteworthy annoyance. Could be that there wasd a glitch in the ad this time and it's worth letting DDB investigate it, mebbe? Dunno. Does seem weird that we've got two threads on the same issue for this one banner ad.
Please do not contact or message me.
I did actually check the subscription benefits before making this claim and didn't see any mention of no ads being a current subscription benefit. I believe it used to be, back when D&D Beyond served up third party adverts for non-subscribers.
As for the frequency of the banner ad in general, that is feedback I have passed along as regardless of how it's implemented, if it elicits a negative response, it's worth being raised.
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
It displays again whenever I restart my machine. I'm not on a different machine, I'm not on a different browser, my connection wasn't reset, I haven't deleted my cookies. Apologies for the delayed reply, I've been at work.
I don't mind seeing them once, that's fine because it reminds me there's a new product coming. I just don't want to see them every time I restart my windows machine.
I don't mind seeing them once, that's fine because it reminds me there's a new product coming. I just don't want to see them every time I restart my windows machine.