Using D&D Beyond is like paying to build on quicksand now.
I already canceled my subscription and will just mostly use the site and app as a digital version of the 5e books that I have purchased. They will still be useful to run some of the adventures I have. The subscription is no longer worth it if I can't use the character builder for all 5e sources.
WotC should create a different portal for the NEW EDITION. Or sell 5e 2014 to someone else who won’t screw it up. I’ll be canceling my subscription as well.
This is an entirely unforgiveable and cynical path for the devs of DDB to take. I have no doubt that pre-orders of the 2024 books aren't going as well as is hoped, and so this is a move to attempt to 'encourage' more interest in those books.
Sadly, if there are any of the devs of the site paying attention here - all that this will cause is people to flee the platform and quickly. It really would benefit the site to abandon this path and instead simply keep whats there and create a 2024 spells list.
For those in the middle of long campaigns, changing now isn't an option. For those who simply don't like the 2024 books, this isn't an option.
For myself, I'm cancelling my DDB subscription now. DDB offers nothing that is worth the price any more. What a shame.
Same as other people here - this breaks my campaign and makes DNDBeyond unusable. Let us decide when/how/if we upgrade - this is forcing us, leading to players having changes from literally one week to another.
I've a subscription and while I have issues with the site, I'd say it was a decent deal up to now. At this stage I consider replacing this with a shared Google Sheet.
This will make D&D Beyond have no value for me. I will have to end my subscription, and migrate my campaign to a new platform. Might have to consider moving to a new ttrpg entirely if this customer hostility is to be expected from WotC.
I've been a master tier subscriber since early 2020. I bought the legendary bundle in 2020 and have bought every official book until earlier this year.
This change has finally convinced me to cancel my subscription and I will not be buying anything else from this service. Completely absurd that these things cannot be marked legacy and still used.
Archiving spells when some spells are getting massive changes is crazy. Even the increase to healing spells will completely throw off characters that are continuing their 2014 rules campaign - let alone spells that have total rewrites like the Conjure spells.
This decision sucks. To preserve the working ruleset of my 5e campaign I’ll need to spend hours making copies of each spell and magic item my players use, for all of the games I’m in and I doubt I’m the only one. There’s a relatively easy solution to this with the already implemented tagging system that would save hundreds of hours of people menial copying for the many people also in my position
- Tag all the 2014 spells or magic items with ‘Legacy,’ as you have the monsters and subclasses before.
- Put another slider on the character sheet that enables or disables access to that content.
Congratulations on ensuring I will never re-subscribe to this platform. This has invalidated any benefit that was previously had for using this platform rather than any other free resource online.
Even if this is walked back, you've poisoned the well. You've proven you're willing to do this, and it might happen again. I will not be coming back for any paid content again to this platform.
100% AGREE that simply removing all access to pre-2024 rules is unacceptable and I think refunds from the announcement of a new version forward is in order if there is no more access..
I own all the books IRL and on here (yes they are not "owned on here"). The idea that this makes any business sense between customer and your business is a ridiculous notion.
So I ask you to please place pre-2024 as an option and don't force your customers to switxh mid campaign or force them into something they don't want.
This is the end of my subscription (probably also dndbeyond's success) if it doesn't change and we are forced into 2024 a system that has removed tabletop character sheets as is..
While I like that Wizards is continuing to grow and update the game, the removal of prior content is unacceptable, especially as this content was specifically paid for. Wizards should reverse course on this decision immediately.
Wonder how long it will take me to use this site as reference to move everything from my two campaigns over to a 3rd party. My group wants nothing to do with the new version, and we cannot stay on paper since my son moved to college this summer. This is a bad company, plain and simple. Their spokesmen speak out of the side of their mouths like used car dealers, and their corporate overlords are the BBEGs pulling the strings from behind the curtains. News flash wizards, DnD players have seen this act before. My only wish is that some rich tycoon with a love of this game buys it off of the current foreign occupiers Musk/twitter style...wait! Does Elon play DnD?!
I had been cautiously waiting on the 2024 material to decide if I am going to upgrade / move my current tables over to it. Some of my tables are interested, some are not. My plan had been to wait until the entirety of the core books were out to make my final decision.
However, with this change to the character builder, I now understand that unless I buy the PHB in september, my players spell lists on their character sheets will drop down to only the "free" rules spells unless I make the herculean effort to redo "homebrew" work that is already done in the system now. I pay a subscription here for the ease of use, particularly on my players side. This change breaks the implied consumer covenant that you have been operating on for the last 6 years and why I subscribe to D&D Beyond in the first place.
If this change goes through as is, I will be cancelling my D&D Beyond subscription, I will also not be buying into the 2024 ruleset either physically or digitally. Instead, I will be migrating my players to other games, most notably Pathfinder. If you are not going to maintain my ease of access to the materials that I have purchased, then I will not be support your company going into the future.
My only wish is that some rich tycoon with a love of this game buys it off of the current foreign occupiers Musk/twitter style...wait! Does Elon play DnD?!
I've played in several campaigns using DnD Beyond for the past few years, and I still have many friends and family interested in playing 5e online. I'm going to start discouraging everyone I know from using DnD Beyond now, I can't believe you would make people pay for books and content and then replace that content with absolutely no way to keep access to it.
I really hope WotC reconciders, because this is not the backwards compatibility they promised, this is forced upgrading at the cost of DMs. Putting the burden on DMs to homebrew ALL 2014 spells they have been using for YEARS at such a short notice, just to continue their games. This is just anti-consumer extreme.
I already canceled my subscription and will just mostly use the site and app as a digital version of the 5e books that I have purchased. They will still be useful to run some of the adventures I have. The subscription is no longer worth it if I can't use the character builder for all 5e sources.
WotC should create a different portal for the NEW EDITION. Or sell 5e 2014 to someone else who won’t screw it up. I’ll be canceling my subscription as well.
This is an entirely unforgiveable and cynical path for the devs of DDB to take. I have no doubt that pre-orders of the 2024 books aren't going as well as is hoped, and so this is a move to attempt to 'encourage' more interest in those books.
Sadly, if there are any of the devs of the site paying attention here - all that this will cause is people to flee the platform and quickly. It really would benefit the site to abandon this path and instead simply keep whats there and create a 2024 spells list.
For those in the middle of long campaigns, changing now isn't an option. For those who simply don't like the 2024 books, this isn't an option.
For myself, I'm cancelling my DDB subscription now. DDB offers nothing that is worth the price any more. What a shame.
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Same as other people here - this breaks my campaign and makes DNDBeyond unusable. Let us decide when/how/if we upgrade - this is forcing us, leading to players having changes from literally one week to another.
I've a subscription and while I have issues with the site, I'd say it was a decent deal up to now. At this stage I consider replacing this with a shared Google Sheet.
Please reconsider this.
This will make D&D Beyond have no value for me. I will have to end my subscription, and migrate my campaign to a new platform. Might have to consider moving to a new ttrpg entirely if this customer hostility is to be expected from WotC.
I've been a master tier subscriber since early 2020. I bought the legendary bundle in 2020 and have bought every official book until earlier this year.
This change has finally convinced me to cancel my subscription and I will not be buying anything else from this service. Completely absurd that these things cannot be marked legacy and still used.
That's one way to kill a whale I guess.
Archiving spells when some spells are getting massive changes is crazy. Even the increase to healing spells will completely throw off characters that are continuing their 2014 rules campaign - let alone spells that have total rewrites like the Conjure spells.
This decision sucks. To preserve the working ruleset of my 5e campaign I’ll need to spend hours making copies of each spell and magic item my players use, for all of the games I’m in and I doubt I’m the only one. There’s a relatively easy solution to this with the already implemented tagging system that would save hundreds of hours of people menial copying for the many people also in my position
- Tag all the 2014 spells or magic items with ‘Legacy,’ as you have the monsters and subclasses before.
- Put another slider on the character sheet that enables or disables access to that content.
Congratulations on ensuring I will never re-subscribe to this platform. This has invalidated any benefit that was previously had for using this platform rather than any other free resource online.
Even if this is walked back, you've poisoned the well. You've proven you're willing to do this, and it might happen again. I will not be coming back for any paid content again to this platform.
I knew they'd do something stupid like this and I plan on cancelling my subscription.
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WoTC..
Can we go a single week without some kind of ridiculous controversy about how you've been managing DnD? Seriously.
It's embarrassing at this point.
Stop trying to be the BBEG of every DM on here.
Stop trying to be greedy.
Please.
100% AGREE that simply removing all access to pre-2024 rules is unacceptable and I think refunds from the announcement of a new version forward is in order if there is no more access..
I own all the books IRL and on here (yes they are not "owned on here"). The idea that this makes any business sense between customer and your business is a ridiculous notion.
So I ask you to please place pre-2024 as an option and don't force your customers to switxh mid campaign or force them into something they don't want.
This is the end of my subscription (probably also dndbeyond's success) if it doesn't change and we are forced into 2024 a system that has removed tabletop character sheets as is..
While I like that Wizards is continuing to grow and update the game, the removal of prior content is unacceptable, especially as this content was specifically paid for. Wizards should reverse course on this decision immediately.
Cancelling my subscription over this. Unacceptable.
Wonder how long it will take me to use this site as reference to move everything from my two campaigns over to a 3rd party. My group wants nothing to do with the new version, and we cannot stay on paper since my son moved to college this summer. This is a bad company, plain and simple. Their spokesmen speak out of the side of their mouths like used car dealers, and their corporate overlords are the BBEGs pulling the strings from behind the curtains. News flash wizards, DnD players have seen this act before. My only wish is that some rich tycoon with a love of this game buys it off of the current foreign occupiers Musk/twitter style...wait! Does Elon play DnD?!
I had been cautiously waiting on the 2024 material to decide if I am going to upgrade / move my current tables over to it. Some of my tables are interested, some are not. My plan had been to wait until the entirety of the core books were out to make my final decision.
However, with this change to the character builder, I now understand that unless I buy the PHB in september, my players spell lists on their character sheets will drop down to only the "free" rules spells unless I make the herculean effort to redo "homebrew" work that is already done in the system now. I pay a subscription here for the ease of use, particularly on my players side. This change breaks the implied consumer covenant that you have been operating on for the last 6 years and why I subscribe to D&D Beyond in the first place.
If this change goes through as is, I will be cancelling my D&D Beyond subscription, I will also not be buying into the 2024 ruleset either physically or digitally. Instead, I will be migrating my players to other games, most notably Pathfinder. If you are not going to maintain my ease of access to the materials that I have purchased, then I will not be support your company going into the future.
Please don't speak that evil into the world
I've played in several campaigns using DnD Beyond for the past few years, and I still have many friends and family interested in playing 5e online. I'm going to start discouraging everyone I know from using DnD Beyond now, I can't believe you would make people pay for books and content and then replace that content with absolutely no way to keep access to it.
Cancelling as well. Please reconsider this absolutely ridiculous decision.
I really hope WotC reconciders, because this is not the backwards compatibility they promised, this is forced upgrading at the cost of DMs. Putting the burden on DMs to homebrew ALL 2014 spells they have been using for YEARS at such a short notice, just to continue their games. This is just anti-consumer extreme.
I am also here.
Am snek.