This is related to my last thread, but feels distinct enough for a separate discussion. Should a mod disagree, accept my apologies and move under the deception thread.
Let's take an unarmed doppelganger. It's clear that this unarmed doppelganger can pick up a weapon and use it - albeit not well, since no proficiencies.
However, lets say this unarmed doppelganger shape changes to imitate an armed PC/NPC - whatever is necessary to fool its marks. Can it use the illusory weapons it created as part of its imitation? Or are they merely decoration, meaning that if its marks enter combat they must arouse suspicion by either not fighting alongside them, or using their slam attack exclusively even though to the PCs they are blatantly armed?
I may be missing something, but looking at the doppelganger statblock, it doesn't look like they copy things like equipment. In fact, it says "Any Equipment it is wearing or carrying isn't transformed." (which I know is addressing gear the doppelganger is wearing, but nowhere does it say that the doppelganger mimics gear, just appearance)
I don't think it makes ANY illusion, so it would have to think quickly like, Doppelganger: "Help! I was attacked by a doppelganger and it stole my gear!"
Once again, I may have overlooked something, but this is what I'm getting from it.
We're playing a game that has like 3 textbooks for a ruleset lol
A running gag in my gaming group is using a monster before looking at what abilities it has and realizing it halfway through the fight (like the ghosts aging ability or the Assassin statblock's crazy extra poison damage lol)
I may be missing something, but looking at the doppelganger statblock, it doesn't look like they copy things like equipment. In fact, it says "Any Equipment it is wearing or carrying isn't transformed." (which I know is addressing gear the doppelganger is wearing, but nowhere does it say that the doppelganger mimics gear, just appearance)
That's not very clearly stated in any modern edition, though the original AD&D doppelganger had "Note: A doppleganger actually forms itself into the likeness of the clothing and equipment of the imitated creature as well as the physical features thereof." The part about equipment merely covers the case where the doppelganger is actually wearing real objects.
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This is related to my last thread, but feels distinct enough for a separate discussion. Should a mod disagree, accept my apologies and move under the deception thread.
Let's take an unarmed doppelganger. It's clear that this unarmed doppelganger can pick up a weapon and use it - albeit not well, since no proficiencies.
However, lets say this unarmed doppelganger shape changes to imitate an armed PC/NPC - whatever is necessary to fool its marks. Can it use the illusory weapons it created as part of its imitation? Or are they merely decoration, meaning that if its marks enter combat they must arouse suspicion by either not fighting alongside them, or using their slam attack exclusively even though to the PCs they are blatantly armed?
I may be missing something, but looking at the doppelganger statblock, it doesn't look like they copy things like equipment. In fact, it says "Any Equipment it is wearing or carrying isn't transformed." (which I know is addressing gear the doppelganger is wearing, but nowhere does it say that the doppelganger mimics gear, just appearance)
I don't think it makes ANY illusion, so it would have to think quickly like, Doppelganger: "Help! I was attacked by a doppelganger and it stole my gear!"
Once again, I may have overlooked something, but this is what I'm getting from it.
Reading comprehension fail. I swear I normally English real good.
Which is perfectly understandable lol
We're playing a game that has like 3 textbooks for a ruleset lol
A running gag in my gaming group is using a monster before looking at what abilities it has and realizing it halfway through the fight (like the ghosts aging ability or the Assassin statblock's crazy extra poison damage lol)
That's not very clearly stated in any modern edition, though the original AD&D doppelganger had "Note: A doppleganger actually forms itself into the likeness of the clothing and equipment of the imitated creature as well as the physical features thereof." The part about equipment merely covers the case where the doppelganger is actually wearing real objects.