In my opinion, the most realistically viable coffeelock starts with half-measures. First, choose a race that can long-rest in 4 hours, and take the Witherbloom Student background if that's permitted in your campaign, or choose the Divine Soul bloodline for your Sorcerer levels if it is not. Take your first 5 levels in Sorcerer, because you'll really be missing that Fireball at L5 if you don't. Then take your next 5 levels of Warlock. Starting at L6, you long-rest in 4 hours, then short rest, ending it with a brief activity as described in the book, convert your Warlock spell slots into sorcery points then back into Sorcerer spell slots. Then repeat 3 more times. Thus you'll still be long resting every night, but starting each day with more spell slots than other chracters. Take 5 more levels in Sorcerer, learning the spell "Greater Restoration, then take your final 5 levels in College of Creation Bard to gain the ability to create your own diamond dust with only a L2 spell slot, making you an actually sustainable coffeelock.
The main downsides are the lack of spell slots higher than 5th level, and that it doesn't come fully online until L20 (L17 if you're content with 3 levels of warlock and stop at 9 levels of sorcerer before taking the Bard levels), but at those highest levels, being able to cast Synaptic Static every turn to make your foes weep is amazing.
The coffeelock build is theorycraft only. It’s based on the idea that you can break a long rest down into individual 1 hour short rests. But you can’t. The description says;
A short rest is a period of downtime, at least 1 hour long,
So if you took the standard 8 hour long rest you can’t break it into 8 1 hour short rests. You could have a single 8 hour short rest if you wanted though. There has to be a gap between the short rests where you do something more significant than sitting, eating, reading etc as per the requirements of a short rest. Me personally I would say at least 2 or 3 hours depending on the activities. So in that 8 hours you would get 2 short rests at most, and then have to deal with exhaustion from not sleeping.
cast a spell is exerting enough to end a rest, so surely you could simply ritual cast detect magic or something.
Actually no. RAW, it takes an hour of activity to interrupt a long rest.
"If the rest is interrupted by a period of strenuous activity — at least 1 hour of walking, fighting, casting spells, or similar adventuring activity — the characters must begin the rest again to gain any benefit from it."
I realize that it can be read as either (at least 1 hour of walking), fighting, casting spells, or similar adventuring activity or ( at least 1 hour) of (walking, fighting, casting spells, or similar adventuring activity). However, the addition of "similar adventuring activity" at the end of the list leads me to interpret it as an hour of exertion/activity will interrupt a rest.
The One D&D play test rules use wording that somewhat clarifies this by separating fighting from the list but leaving everything else with an hour duration which could be interpreted to give some insight of the intent of the current rules.
"INTERRUPTING THE REST If a Long Rest is interrupted by combat or by 1 hour of walking, casting Spells, or similar activity, the rest confers no benefit and must be restarted; however, if the rest was at least 1 hour long before the interruption, you gain the benefits of a Short Rest"
The coffeelock build is theorycraft only. It’s based on the idea that you can break a long rest down into individual 1 hour short rests. But you can’t. The description says;
A short rest is a period of downtime, at least 1 hour long,
So if you took the standard 8 hour long rest you can’t break it into 8 1 hour short rests. You could have a single 8 hour short rest if you wanted though. There has to be a gap between the short rests where you do something more significant than sitting, eating, reading etc as per the requirements of a short rest. Me personally I would say at least 2 or 3 hours depending on the activities. So in that 8 hours you would get 2 short rests at most, and then have to deal with exhaustion from not sleeping.
To end a short rest the character needs only to do something more strenuous than sitting, eating, etc. Just doing the more strenuous activity is enough to break the short rest without any set period of time for the activity being required. So doing a couple dozen pushups or situps at the end of each hour will end the short rest, making it possible for them to start another. Per the rules as written a character can get at least 7 short rests into an 8hr period of time, and if the group spends an hour packing up and eating breakfast, the character who doesn't need to pack up because of not having set up a tent, bag, etc, has an additional short rest while the others are working.
The Coffeelock is theorycraft not because of the chaining short rests. It's theorycrafting because of the high level you have to reach for it to be fully online. Currently there's two ways to create an actually sustainable coffeelock.
You can take 10 levels in Ranger to remove Exhaustion on a short rest without needing a Greater Restoration. Then your Sorcerer level determines how high level slots you can create, and your Warlock level determines how many of those slots you can create each day.
Or you can have 5 levels of College of Creation Bard to create the needed diamond dust for Greater Restoration with a L2 slot, have at least 9 levels of Sorcerer able to cast Greater Restoration (choose from Divine Soul bloodline, having the Witherbloom Student Background, or the Mark of Healing Halfling race, each of which gives the Sorcerer the ability to learn Greater Restoration as an arcane spell). Then the character needs enough levels of Warlock to generate enough spell slots to get you through the day from short rests, probably 5 (so you have Two L3 Warlock spell slots to convert to Sorcerer Spell Slots).
Either way, the sustainable Coffeelock isn't online until well after 15th character level, which is long after most campaigns end. That's why it's theorycrafting,
Lol, no. It's poorly worded, but when 1 hour of walking is said, it means 1 hour of walking and the other activities are not an hour.
I put little faith in the statements of Jeremy Crawford, the game designer. Take them for whatever you like. However, in this case he disagrees with you.
Mike Mearls: "Interruption needs to be a full hour. Testers: "We rest 7 hours, a kobold knocks on the door, and now we have to start over?"
So, personally, I'll go with how I read it which seems to be the same as others out there. I'd also say that RAI in this case is that it takes an hour of any activity to interrupt a long rest.
P.S. I'd also suggest that it is very unrealistic for any brief interruption to prevent earning long rest benefits. Why would a character that sleeps for six hours, rests while cooking breakfast for an hour then has to fight a couple of wolves also looking for breakfast lose all the benefits of their 6 hours of sleep and fortifying breakfast due to a brief skirmish at the end of the rest. OR Characters camping out get attacked by something in the night after resting for 3 to 4 hours, it takes a few minutes to fight and then clean up the mess, are these adventurers so fragile that a few minutes of exercise or even casting a single spell means that they have to start resting all over again? So the wizard wakes up in the morning and decides a nice fire would be good for the party, they forget and cast prestidigitation to make a nice little fire for breakfast then has to say to the party "Ooops guys, I was nicely rested after 7 hours of sleep but I wanted to make a fire and forgot that casting a spell would take away all my benefits of sleeping - I have to spend the whole day sleeping again - sorry about that"
Personally, the interpretation that anything at all with a short duration interrupts a long rest just doesn't make any sense to me - but feel free to play as you like, the wording IS ambiguous.
Long rests can be interrupted for up to 1 hour without having to restart the long rest.
I interpret the "at least one hour" to only apply to walking -- any amount of fighting or casting spells interrupts. Because, well, no-one ever spends an hour fighting or casting spells, so the restriction is meaningless if you assume one hour applies to all of those, and the rule as written can be interpreted either way, English does not have particularly strong associative rules.
Agreed,
there is a comma there for that purpose.
A long rest is a period of extended downtime, at least 8 hours long, during which a character sleeps for at least 6 hours and performs no more than 2 hours of light activity, such as reading, talking, eating, or standing watch. If the rest is interrupted by a period of strenuous activity — at least 1 hour of walking, fighting, casting spells, or similar adventuring activity — the characters must begin the rest again to gain any benefit from it.
Surely using the sorcerors ability to convert spell slots into sorcery points is akin to using the spell slots in other ways, like casting spells such that that action alone breaks the rest cycle, and renders the coffeelock a hypothetical thing.
Y'all do what y'all like, but I'd use that last stanza "or similar adventuring activity" to lock it down to normality. No sleep is fine, elves don't sleep but still need a long rest. Aspect of the Moon or whatever angle you got that negates sleep notwithstanding, a long rest would still be required to avoid exhaustion for me.
EDIT - ok I just read through some more of this thread and saw the post from David42 linking the posts by JC and MM ... ok so wow, didn't see that coming.
To end a short rest the character needs only to do something more strenuous than sitting, eating, etc. Just doing the more strenuous activity is enough to break the short rest without any set period of time for the activity being required.
It doesn’t matter how you end the short rest. You simply can’t string 8 1hr short rests back to back in a long rest. It’s just a combination of pure common sense, and not trying to be a munchkin. You do you at your table, at my table I will still be laughing at the suggestion the following day.
sorlock: I end my short rest by slapping myself in the face. I stand up, sit down and start a mew short rest.
me (dm): nope you just had a short rest, now you have to spend a few hours doing adventurer stuff.
To end a short rest the character needs only to do something more strenuous than sitting, eating, etc. Just doing the more strenuous activity is enough to break the short rest without any set period of time for the activity being required.
It doesn’t matter how you end the short rest. You simply can’t string 8 1hr short rests back to back in a long rest. It’s just a combination of pure common sense, and not trying to be a munchkin. You do you at your table, at my table I will still be laughing at the suggestion the following day.
sorlock: I end my short rest by slapping myself in the face. I stand up, sit down and start a mew short rest.
me (dm): nope you just had a short rest, now you have to spend a few hours doing adventurer stuff.
sorlock player: 😭
You're conflating your opinion with the rules. DMs can homebrew whatever they like, but it doesn't mean what makes the most sense to them is what the official rules are.
It's been shown that mechanically, chaining short-rests works. If you need flavor for how this differs from a long rest:
The party settles into a long rest. The Sorlock focuses on refreshing the magical wellspring of energy his patron taught him how to access, and after about an hour, when he feels enough built-up energy there, he molds the magic into a new form and draws it back into his natural pool of energy he was born with. He takes a few moments to allow residual magical energies dissipate, and to clear his head, then he settles down to repeat the process. Eight hours later, his party wakes up and they tackle the chellenges of the new day, the Sorlock exhausted from the long night of harnessing magic, yet buzzing with his inflated pool of magical energy.
It's been shown that mechanically, chaining short-rests works. .
Where? What canon source?
I showed on this forum that it mechanically works with the rules for short rests found in the Player's Handbook.
PHB 186: "A short rest is a period of downtime, at least 1 hour long, during which a character does nothing more strenuous than eating, drinking, reading, and tending to wounds."
There is no rule limiting the number of short rests that can be completed in a day. Not a total number, nor including a cooldown time between short rests.
Thus, to chain short rests, all that needs to be done is some activity marginally "more strenuous than eating, drinking, reading, or tending to wounds", such as doing a couple dozen pushups or sit-ups. That definitively ends one short rest enabling the character to begin another one.
This is what the rules are. If you don't like it, you can house-rule it away at your table, and that's fine, but have no delusions that your way is what the official rules are. You're creating limitations that don't exist in the official rules.
If the dm allows for optional class features, you could always put a single level in ranger for deft explorer then going for the tireless option which reduces exhaustion by one level for every short rest that way you don't need greater restoration or long rests if I'm understanding the benefits of tireless correctly. You can also get a free fighting style on top of not needing long rests. Also you get a few minor buffs or something that I didn't really want to read.
This is coming from someone who doesn't really know that much about dnd but just took a look at the ******* page for ranger, so if I'm wrong about something please don't bully me about it.
If the dm allows for optional class features, you could always put a single level in ranger for deft explorer then going for the tireless option which reduces exhaustion by one level for every short rest that way you don't need greater restoration or long rests if I'm understanding the benefits of tireless correctly. You can also get a free fighting style on top of not needing long rests. Also you get a few minor buffs or something that I didn't really want to read.
This is coming from someone who doesn't really know that much about dnd but just took a look at the ******* page for ranger, so if I'm wrong about something please don't bully me about it.
Tireless is an ability that a level 10 ranger gets, not a 1st level ranger.
Ok, don't want to be opposing a community who respects this, but there is no way for the coffeelock to work. You see, sorcerers can only have a number of sorcery points equal to their level. This means that they are not as useful as many would expect them to be. Now, a character who doesn't need sleep, huge. A character who gets everything back after a short rest, huge. A character who has 3 different spell lists to choose from with only two classes, huge!
Ok, don't want to be opposing a community who respects this, but there is no way for the coffeelock to work. You see, sorcerers can only have a number of sorcery points equal to their level. This means that they are not as useful as many would expect them to be. Now, a character who doesn't need sleep, huge. A character who gets everything back after a short rest, huge. A character who has 3 different spell lists to choose from with only two classes, huge!
actually....
sorcerer places a limit on the number of sorcery points you have, not the number of spell slots you have.
Ok, don't want to be opposing a community who respects this, but there is no way for the coffeelock to work. You see, sorcerers can only have a number of sorcery points equal to their level. This means that they are not as useful as many would expect them to be. Now, a character who doesn't need sleep, huge. A character who gets everything back after a short rest, huge. A character who has 3 different spell lists to choose from with only two classes, huge!
You're mistaken. I have an Elf, who can complete a long rest in 4 hours, which leaves 4 hours that become 4 short rests. I convert Sorcery Points to Sorcerer Spell Slots, which opens the available potential for more Sorcery Points, which I fill by converting Warlock Spell Slots to Sorcery Points, and then from there to Sorcerer Spell Slots. That way I never break any rules about limits on Sorcery Points, and my character effectively starts every day with a few extra spells, which can be huge, especially if you're a utility caster who uses spells for resolving tricky situations that would have otherwise resulted in damage or impairment to the party. There's not actually any rules in the game against creating more spell slots via Sorcery Points than your normal maximum, rather it just specifies that all created spell slots go away when you take a long rest. I'd consider this character online at L7, with 2 levels of Warlock to generate one L1 bonus slot per short rest, and the 5 levels needed for L3 spells like Fireball or Counterspell.
If you want a TRUE Coffeelock, you must be able to remove your own exhaustion without any expenditure of material resources, and there are currently two R.A.W. ways in the game of doing that.
You can take 10 levels of Ranger, which gives you the ability to remove a level of Exhaustion on a Short Rest. That means you can take your other 10 levels in your prefferred ballance of Sorcerer and Warlock spells. This will most likely cap out at L3 spell slots, having 5 levels each of Sorcerer and Warlock, to maximize your benefit from each short rest. This comes online around L14.
You could also take 5+ levels of Creation Bard, gaining the ability to create the needed Diamond Dust for Greater Restoration by expending a L2 spell slot (If a DM is a stickler for the limit on creating a single item, and doesn't consider a pile to be a single item, make a pre-fractured diamond that just needs a tap to crumble into the needed pile of dust) You'll also need a minimum of 9 levels in Sorcerer to be able to create the L5 spell slots needed to cast Greater Restoration, and a feature that adds Greater Restoration to your Sorcerer Spell List (such as the Divine Soul Sorcerer Bloodline, the Witherbloom Student Background, or the Mark of Healing Halfling Race). That leaves up to 6 levels of Warlock that you'll use to for generating spell slots for your Coffeelock. This will cap at L5 spell slots, but it doesn't really come online until around the 17th character level.
I think you could also take The Celestial as your warlock patron to gain access to the Cleric spell list.
Good point, but that requires a minimum of 9 levels of Warlock for the L5 slots, which with the 5 levels of Creation Bard, leaves you only six levels for Sorcerer, so all of your created spell slots are no higher than Level 3. It's good, but I personally prefer having access to some of the L4 and 5 spells that this build wouldn't be able to access.
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In my opinion, the most realistically viable coffeelock starts with half-measures. First, choose a race that can long-rest in 4 hours, and take the Witherbloom Student background if that's permitted in your campaign, or choose the Divine Soul bloodline for your Sorcerer levels if it is not. Take your first 5 levels in Sorcerer, because you'll really be missing that Fireball at L5 if you don't. Then take your next 5 levels of Warlock. Starting at L6, you long-rest in 4 hours, then short rest, ending it with a brief activity as described in the book, convert your Warlock spell slots into sorcery points then back into Sorcerer spell slots. Then repeat 3 more times. Thus you'll still be long resting every night, but starting each day with more spell slots than other chracters. Take 5 more levels in Sorcerer, learning the spell "Greater Restoration, then take your final 5 levels in College of Creation Bard to gain the ability to create your own diamond dust with only a L2 spell slot, making you an actually sustainable coffeelock.
The main downsides are the lack of spell slots higher than 5th level, and that it doesn't come fully online until L20 (L17 if you're content with 3 levels of warlock and stop at 9 levels of sorcerer before taking the Bard levels), but at those highest levels, being able to cast Synaptic Static every turn to make your foes weep is amazing.
The coffeelock build is theorycraft only. It’s based on the idea that you can break a long rest down into individual 1 hour short rests. But you can’t. The description says;
A short rest is a period of downtime, at least 1 hour long,
So if you took the standard 8 hour long rest you can’t break it into 8 1 hour short rests. You could have a single 8 hour short rest if you wanted though. There has to be a gap between the short rests where you do something more significant than sitting, eating, reading etc as per the requirements of a short rest. Me personally I would say at least 2 or 3 hours depending on the activities. So in that 8 hours you would get 2 short rests at most, and then have to deal with exhaustion from not sleeping.
cast a spell is exerting enough to end a rest, so surely you could simply ritual cast detect magic or something.
DMing:
Dragons of Stormwreck Isle
Playing:
None sadly.
Optimization Guides:
Literally Too Angry to Die - A Guide to Optimizing a Barbarian
Actually no. RAW, it takes an hour of activity to interrupt a long rest.
"If the rest is interrupted by a period of strenuous activity — at least 1 hour of walking, fighting, casting spells, or similar adventuring activity — the characters must begin the rest again to gain any benefit from it."
I realize that it can be read as either (at least 1 hour of walking), fighting, casting spells, or similar adventuring activity or ( at least 1 hour) of (walking, fighting, casting spells, or similar adventuring activity). However, the addition of "similar adventuring activity" at the end of the list leads me to interpret it as an hour of exertion/activity will interrupt a rest.
The One D&D play test rules use wording that somewhat clarifies this by separating fighting from the list but leaving everything else with an hour duration which could be interpreted to give some insight of the intent of the current rules.
"INTERRUPTING THE REST If a Long Rest is interrupted by combat or by 1 hour of walking, casting Spells, or similar activity, the rest confers no benefit and must be restarted; however, if the rest was at least 1 hour long before the interruption, you gain the benefits of a Short Rest"
Lol, no. It's poorly worded, but when 1 hour of walking is said, it means 1 hour of walking and the other activities are not an hour.
DMing:
Dragons of Stormwreck Isle
Playing:
None sadly.
Optimization Guides:
Literally Too Angry to Die - A Guide to Optimizing a Barbarian
To end a short rest the character needs only to do something more strenuous than sitting, eating, etc. Just doing the more strenuous activity is enough to break the short rest without any set period of time for the activity being required. So doing a couple dozen pushups or situps at the end of each hour will end the short rest, making it possible for them to start another. Per the rules as written a character can get at least 7 short rests into an 8hr period of time, and if the group spends an hour packing up and eating breakfast, the character who doesn't need to pack up because of not having set up a tent, bag, etc, has an additional short rest while the others are working.
The Coffeelock is theorycraft not because of the chaining short rests. It's theorycrafting because of the high level you have to reach for it to be fully online. Currently there's two ways to create an actually sustainable coffeelock.
You can take 10 levels in Ranger to remove Exhaustion on a short rest without needing a Greater Restoration. Then your Sorcerer level determines how high level slots you can create, and your Warlock level determines how many of those slots you can create each day.
Or you can have 5 levels of College of Creation Bard to create the needed diamond dust for Greater Restoration with a L2 slot, have at least 9 levels of Sorcerer able to cast Greater Restoration (choose from Divine Soul bloodline, having the Witherbloom Student Background, or the Mark of Healing Halfling race, each of which gives the Sorcerer the ability to learn Greater Restoration as an arcane spell). Then the character needs enough levels of Warlock to generate enough spell slots to get you through the day from short rests, probably 5 (so you have Two L3 Warlock spell slots to convert to Sorcerer Spell Slots).
Either way, the sustainable Coffeelock isn't online until well after 15th character level, which is long after most campaigns end. That's why it's theorycrafting,
I put little faith in the statements of Jeremy Crawford, the game designer. Take them for whatever you like. However, in this case he disagrees with you.
https://twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/764150520646742016?lang=en
"Any amount of fighting breaks a short rest. A long rest can withstand an interruption of up to 1 hour. #DnD"
Another designer of 5e also appears to disagree with your point of view.
https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/42123/does-a-short-combat-or-casting-one-spell-interrupt-a-long-rest
Mike Mearls: "Interruption needs to be a full hour. Testers: "We rest 7 hours, a kobold knocks on the door, and now we have to start over?"
So, personally, I'll go with how I read it which seems to be the same as others out there. I'd also say that RAI in this case is that it takes an hour of any activity to interrupt a long rest.
P.S. I'd also suggest that it is very unrealistic for any brief interruption to prevent earning long rest benefits. Why would a character that sleeps for six hours, rests while cooking breakfast for an hour then has to fight a couple of wolves also looking for breakfast lose all the benefits of their 6 hours of sleep and fortifying breakfast due to a brief skirmish at the end of the rest. OR Characters camping out get attacked by something in the night after resting for 3 to 4 hours, it takes a few minutes to fight and then clean up the mess, are these adventurers so fragile that a few minutes of exercise or even casting a single spell means that they have to start resting all over again? So the wizard wakes up in the morning and decides a nice fire would be good for the party, they forget and cast prestidigitation to make a nice little fire for breakfast then has to say to the party "Ooops guys, I was nicely rested after 7 hours of sleep but I wanted to make a fire and forgot that casting a spell would take away all my benefits of sleeping - I have to spend the whole day sleeping again - sorry about that"
Personally, the interpretation that anything at all with a short duration interrupts a long rest just doesn't make any sense to me - but feel free to play as you like, the wording IS ambiguous.
ok, fair. In that case, just punch something at the end of 1 hour.
DMing:
Dragons of Stormwreck Isle
Playing:
None sadly.
Optimization Guides:
Literally Too Angry to Die - A Guide to Optimizing a Barbarian
Agreed,
there is a comma there for that purpose.
Surely using the sorcerors ability to convert spell slots into sorcery points is akin to using the spell slots in other ways, like casting spells such that that action alone breaks the rest cycle, and renders the coffeelock a hypothetical thing.
Y'all do what y'all like, but I'd use that last stanza "or similar adventuring activity" to lock it down to normality. No sleep is fine, elves don't sleep but still need a long rest. Aspect of the Moon or whatever angle you got that negates sleep notwithstanding, a long rest would still be required to avoid exhaustion for me.
EDIT - ok I just read through some more of this thread and saw the post from David42 linking the posts by JC and MM ... ok so wow, didn't see that coming.
Life's hard - get a helmet!
To end a short rest the character needs only to do something more strenuous than sitting, eating, etc. Just doing the more strenuous activity is enough to break the short rest without any set period of time for the activity being required.
It doesn’t matter how you end the short rest. You simply can’t string 8 1hr short rests back to back in a long rest. It’s just a combination of pure common sense, and not trying to be a munchkin. You do you at your table, at my table I will still be laughing at the suggestion the following day.
sorlock: I end my short rest by slapping myself in the face. I stand up, sit down and start a mew short rest.
me (dm): nope you just had a short rest, now you have to spend a few hours doing adventurer stuff.
sorlock player: 😭
You're conflating your opinion with the rules. DMs can homebrew whatever they like, but it doesn't mean what makes the most sense to them is what the official rules are.
It's been shown that mechanically, chaining short-rests works. If you need flavor for how this differs from a long rest:
The party settles into a long rest. The Sorlock focuses on refreshing the magical wellspring of energy his patron taught him how to access, and after about an hour, when he feels enough built-up energy there, he molds the magic into a new form and draws it back into his natural pool of energy he was born with. He takes a few moments to allow residual magical energies dissipate, and to clear his head, then he settles down to repeat the process. Eight hours later, his party wakes up and they tackle the chellenges of the new day, the Sorlock exhausted from the long night of harnessing magic, yet buzzing with his inflated pool of magical energy.
Where? What canon source?
I showed on this forum that it mechanically works with the rules for short rests found in the Player's Handbook.
PHB 186: "A short rest is a period of downtime, at least 1 hour long, during which a character does nothing more strenuous than eating, drinking, reading, and tending to wounds."
There is no rule limiting the number of short rests that can be completed in a day. Not a total number, nor including a cooldown time between short rests.
Thus, to chain short rests, all that needs to be done is some activity marginally "more strenuous than eating, drinking, reading, or tending to wounds", such as doing a couple dozen pushups or sit-ups. That definitively ends one short rest enabling the character to begin another one.
This is what the rules are. If you don't like it, you can house-rule it away at your table, and that's fine, but have no delusions that your way is what the official rules are. You're creating limitations that don't exist in the official rules.
If the dm allows for optional class features, you could always put a single level in ranger for deft explorer then going for the tireless option which reduces exhaustion by one level for every short rest that way you don't need greater restoration or long rests if I'm understanding the benefits of tireless correctly. You can also get a free fighting style on top of not needing long rests. Also you get a few minor buffs or something that I didn't really want to read.
This is coming from someone who doesn't really know that much about dnd but just took a look at the ******* page for ranger, so if I'm wrong about something please don't bully me about it.
Tireless is an ability that a level 10 ranger gets, not a 1st level ranger.
Ok, don't want to be opposing a community who respects this, but there is no way for the coffeelock to work. You see, sorcerers can only have a number of sorcery points equal to their level. This means that they are not as useful as many would expect them to be. Now, a character who doesn't need sleep, huge. A character who gets everything back after a short rest, huge. A character who has 3 different spell lists to choose from with only two classes, huge!
actually....
sorcerer places a limit on the number of sorcery points you have, not the number of spell slots you have.
heh heh.
DMing:
Dragons of Stormwreck Isle
Playing:
None sadly.
Optimization Guides:
Literally Too Angry to Die - A Guide to Optimizing a Barbarian
You're mistaken. I have an Elf, who can complete a long rest in 4 hours, which leaves 4 hours that become 4 short rests. I convert Sorcery Points to Sorcerer Spell Slots, which opens the available potential for more Sorcery Points, which I fill by converting Warlock Spell Slots to Sorcery Points, and then from there to Sorcerer Spell Slots. That way I never break any rules about limits on Sorcery Points, and my character effectively starts every day with a few extra spells, which can be huge, especially if you're a utility caster who uses spells for resolving tricky situations that would have otherwise resulted in damage or impairment to the party. There's not actually any rules in the game against creating more spell slots via Sorcery Points than your normal maximum, rather it just specifies that all created spell slots go away when you take a long rest. I'd consider this character online at L7, with 2 levels of Warlock to generate one L1 bonus slot per short rest, and the 5 levels needed for L3 spells like Fireball or Counterspell.
If you want a TRUE Coffeelock, you must be able to remove your own exhaustion without any expenditure of material resources, and there are currently two R.A.W. ways in the game of doing that.
You can take 10 levels of Ranger, which gives you the ability to remove a level of Exhaustion on a Short Rest. That means you can take your other 10 levels in your prefferred ballance of Sorcerer and Warlock spells. This will most likely cap out at L3 spell slots, having 5 levels each of Sorcerer and Warlock, to maximize your benefit from each short rest. This comes online around L14.
You could also take 5+ levels of Creation Bard, gaining the ability to create the needed Diamond Dust for Greater Restoration by expending a L2 spell slot (If a DM is a stickler for the limit on creating a single item, and doesn't consider a pile to be a single item, make a pre-fractured diamond that just needs a tap to crumble into the needed pile of dust) You'll also need a minimum of 9 levels in Sorcerer to be able to create the L5 spell slots needed to cast Greater Restoration, and a feature that adds Greater Restoration to your Sorcerer Spell List (such as the Divine Soul Sorcerer Bloodline, the Witherbloom Student Background, or the Mark of Healing Halfling Race). That leaves up to 6 levels of Warlock that you'll use to for generating spell slots for your Coffeelock. This will cap at L5 spell slots, but it doesn't really come online until around the 17th character level.
I think you could also take The Celestial as your warlock patron to gain access to the Cleric spell list.
Good point, but that requires a minimum of 9 levels of Warlock for the L5 slots, which with the 5 levels of Creation Bard, leaves you only six levels for Sorcerer, so all of your created spell slots are no higher than Level 3. It's good, but I personally prefer having access to some of the L4 and 5 spells that this build wouldn't be able to access.