I'm having trouble understanding if I can ritual cast wizard spells with my Cleric with the Ritual Caster feat.
Ritual Caster feat : "Choose one of the following classes: bard, cleric, druid, sorcerer, warlock, or wizard. You must choose your spells from that class's spell list, and the spells you choose must have the ritual tag."
Now, in PHB it says at the Cleric section : "Ritual Casting : You can cast a cleric spell as a ritual if that spell has the ritual tag and you have the spell prepared."
If I'm playing a Cleric with the Ritual Caster feat, and I choose the Wizard class, can I cast these wizard spells as rituals and not burn spell slots?
Absolutely. In fact, you can only cast those spells as rituals.
The Ritual Caster feat is completely separate from your actual class(es), or even whether or not the class you chose for the feat has ritual casting, or what the rules are for ritual casting in that class. You could pick Ritual Caster: Sorcerer and be able to cast the Sorcerer spells in your ritual book as rituals.
Note that you will not be able to cast the Ritual Caster feat spells in your ritual book with spell slots, only as rituals.
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You could choose cleric ritual caster as a cleric. What you can do as a cleric is prepare your cleric class ritual spells and make spell scrolls if you have go and arcana proficiency. You can then scribe the rituals into your ritual book and always have them available without preparing them, which frees up your actual cleric spell preparations.
You could choose cleric ritual caster as a cleric. What you can do as a cleric is prepare your cleric class ritual spells and make spell scrolls if you have go and arcana proficiency. You can then scribe the rituals into your ritual book and always have them available without preparing them, which frees up your actual cleric spell preparations.
Unfortunately, I don't think you can write Cleric spells in that spellbook. The Ritual Caster spellbook can have only Wizard spells if I'm reading the rules correctly.
No, they're just saying that if you, as a cleric, want to, you can take the ritual caster (Cleric) feat, create spell scrolls from the relevant cleric scrolls, and then transcribe them into the Ritual Caster book per the feat's method of adding spells to the book. Then you can always have those cleric spells to hand to cast ritually and are able to prepare other spells instead.
No, they're just saying that if you, as a cleric, want to, you can take the ritual caster (Cleric) feat, create spell scrolls from the relevant cleric scrolls, and then transcribe them into the Ritual Caster book per the feat's method of adding spells to the book. Then you can always have those cleric spells to hand to cast ritually and are able to prepare other spells instead.
That’s exactly what I was saying. It’s a big cost in time and gold but ritual casting classes can use the ritual caster feat to try and recreate the efficacy a wizards ritual casting has.
Cleric and Druid have a bit of an edge since they are prepared casters and can basically just dedicate time and money. Bards, warlocks, and sorcerers would be much more limited since they are known casters and are traditionally much more limited in their spell swaps.
Cleric rituals, 13 spells total. lvl 1 spells: ceremony, detect magic, detect poison and disease, purify food and drink.
lvl 2 spells: augury, gentle repose, silence
lvl 3 spells: feign death, meld into stone, water walk
Careful, as a cleric you get ritual casting - of clerical spells with the ritual tag - only. You can not select a Wizard spell with a ritual tag and cast that spell ritually. IF, you used ne of your ASIs to take the feat Ritual Caster- Wizard then, and only then, could you learn and store and cast ritual tagged spells from the Wizard list. Your clerical ritual casting is nay good for ritual tagged clerical spells.
Interesting options here. You could take Ritual Caster, Wizard, with a Cleric only character. Choose the Find Familiar and Comprehend Languages spells. During downtime craft a Detect Magic spell scroll and add that to your Ritual Book. As you level up you can also add Augury, Gentle Repose, Feign Death, and Divination with this method. These are the shared Cleric and Wizard Ritual spells with Tasha's varient rules.
You could easily mix and match many different class combos this way. My favorite part of this feat is that it doesn't matter what class you are it's based on player level. A Barbarian could take this feat and add utility to their build. It also only requires either Int or Wis 13 or above. This doesn't matter which class you choose.
The only funny thing is the line that the class you choose must have the Ritual Caster feature. If this is the case, why are the Sorcerer and Warlock listed at all? Wouldn't they not be applicable choices?
The only funny thing is the line that the class you choose must have the Ritual Caster feature. If this is the case, why are the Sorcerer and Warlock listed at all? Wouldn't they not be applicable choices?
Where are you seeing that? I only see a requirement that the spells you choose have the ritual tag.
The only funny thing is the line that the class you choose must have the Ritual Caster feature. If this is the case, why are the Sorcerer and Warlock listed at all? Wouldn't they not be applicable choices?
Where are you seeing that? I only see a requirement that the spells you choose have the ritual tag.
Must have been a typo from a different source.
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I'm having trouble understanding if I can ritual cast wizard spells with my Cleric with the Ritual Caster feat.
Ritual Caster feat : "Choose one of the following classes: bard, cleric, druid, sorcerer, warlock, or wizard. You must choose your spells from that class's spell list, and the spells you choose must have the ritual tag."
Now, in PHB it says at the Cleric section : "Ritual Casting : You can cast a cleric spell as a ritual if that spell has the ritual tag and you have the spell prepared."
If I'm playing a Cleric with the Ritual Caster feat, and I choose the Wizard class, can I cast these wizard spells as rituals and not burn spell slots?
Absolutely. In fact, you can only cast those spells as rituals.
The Ritual Caster feat is completely separate from your actual class(es), or even whether or not the class you chose for the feat has ritual casting, or what the rules are for ritual casting in that class. You could pick Ritual Caster: Sorcerer and be able to cast the Sorcerer spells in your ritual book as rituals.
Note that you will not be able to cast the Ritual Caster feat spells in your ritual book with spell slots, only as rituals.
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You could choose cleric ritual caster as a cleric. What you can do as a cleric is prepare your cleric class ritual spells and make spell scrolls if you have go and arcana proficiency. You can then scribe the rituals into your ritual book and always have them available without preparing them, which frees up your actual cleric spell preparations.
Thanks! Yep, it makes all the sense now!
Unfortunately, I don't think you can write Cleric spells in that spellbook. The Ritual Caster spellbook can have only Wizard spells if I'm reading the rules correctly.
No, they're just saying that if you, as a cleric, want to, you can take the ritual caster (Cleric) feat, create spell scrolls from the relevant cleric scrolls, and then transcribe them into the Ritual Caster book per the feat's method of adding spells to the book. Then you can always have those cleric spells to hand to cast ritually and are able to prepare other spells instead.
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That’s exactly what I was saying. It’s a big cost in time and gold but ritual casting classes can use the ritual caster feat to try and recreate the efficacy a wizards ritual casting has.
Cleric and Druid have a bit of an edge since they are prepared casters and can basically just dedicate time and money. Bards, warlocks, and sorcerers would be much more limited since they are known casters and are traditionally much more limited in their spell swaps.
Cleric rituals, 13 spells total.
lvl 1 spells: ceremony, detect magic, detect poison and disease, purify food and drink.
lvl 2 spells: augury, gentle repose, silence
lvl 3 spells: feign death, meld into stone, water walk
lvl 4 spells: divination
lvl 5 spells: commune
lvl 6 spells: forbiddance
Careful, as a cleric you get ritual casting - of clerical spells with the ritual tag - only. You can not select a Wizard spell with a ritual tag and cast that spell ritually. IF, you used ne of your ASIs to take the feat Ritual Caster- Wizard then, and only then, could you learn and store and cast ritual tagged spells from the Wizard list. Your clerical ritual casting is nay good for ritual tagged clerical spells.
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Interesting options here. You could take Ritual Caster, Wizard, with a Cleric only character. Choose the Find Familiar and Comprehend Languages spells. During downtime craft a Detect Magic spell scroll and add that to your Ritual Book. As you level up you can also add Augury, Gentle Repose, Feign Death, and Divination with this method. These are the shared Cleric and Wizard Ritual spells with Tasha's varient rules.
You could easily mix and match many different class combos this way. My favorite part of this feat is that it doesn't matter what class you are it's based on player level. A Barbarian could take this feat and add utility to their build. It also only requires either Int or Wis 13 or above. This doesn't matter which class you choose.
The only funny thing is the line that the class you choose must have the Ritual Caster feature. If this is the case, why are the Sorcerer and Warlock listed at all? Wouldn't they not be applicable choices?
Where are you seeing that? I only see a requirement that the spells you choose have the ritual tag.
Must have been a typo. It wasn't on D&D beyond when I just looked for it.
Must have been a typo from a different source.