(notes that in the first place, the pell didn't even block attacks when it was first created. It just blocked weather. later, they added a second spell that gave protection from attacks. Evne later, the two were combined into what we have today.)
That said, I am willing to acknowledge a floor, .
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The players handbook was a misprint that has subsequently been corrected in the D&DB web site. Or at least clarified by the removal of that one word.
Your basing ALL of your arguments on that one word that is not even used in the verbal description of the spell. And then your basing even more on yours and only your description of a dome and hemisphere. The verbal description mentions nothing about a floor.
I can find no geometric or mathematical description that specifically says a hemisphere or even a dome has a "floor". I could build a dome over a hole.
Look, you guys are welcome to homebrew new things the tiny hut can do, sure. But as written, it doesn't say anything about allowing creatures to suspend themselves in the air and ignore falls. Spells only do what they say they do. If you're following the rules, that is.
I encourage you to read it again. It makes no claim to allowing creatures to stand on some magically levitating floor. None whatsoever.
What it does say? The creature you designate to be inside it can freely pass out of it. So, if they fall, they go out of it.
That is not what the spell description states.
Like I already posted, if you want to homebrew that your players fall through the Tiny Hut with forced movement, that's your prerogative. But if you actually read the wording of the spell it actually states: Creatures and objects within the dome when you cast this spell can move through it freely. The word can in this usage is defined as being made possible. Nowhere in the spell's description does it state that creatures must move through the dome or floor, only that they can. The spell makes no reference to any forced movement for creatures inside the dome.
The spell describes the tiny hut as a hemisphere, meaning it is a half-sphere or a dome/wall with a floor. The spell also states the Tiny Hut remains stationary for the duration. It does not state it's a magical levitating floor, or a floor made of air, only that the hemisphere is stationary. Which does not mean it scrapes along the ground while the planet rotates beneath it, assuming it has been cast it on Toril, Exandria, etc. and not a flat D&D world.
So if the ground underneath disappears, the floor of the hemisphere is still there and it does not move. The occupants can definitely, as written, go through it but, as written, there's nothing to indicate that they must.
Sure, you "can" move through it. And you "must" fall when not supported as a very basic general rule.
Creatures that freely pass through it, do. They can walk through its walls too. Weird? Sure, magic spells do weird things.
The hut keeps other things out. It doesn't keep you in.
This is incorrect.
Everywhere in the rules of the game, whenever a creature or player can do something it means that they have the option to do so if they so choose.
If you have a superpower which makes it so that you can walk through walls, it doesn't mean that you will always pass through walls even when you don't want to. The default is that you interact with walls normally, but if you choose to do so you can activate your superpower and walk through them instead.
If you think it is incorrect, quote where the spell says that it can or will support creatures inside it?
You're focused on the wrong " can". Yes, it "can allow them to leave.
But where does it say that the effect "can" support them?
It doesn't.
So it can't.
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I'm probably laughing.
It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.
WotC is entirely sure. In his first tweet (is this now known as Xited?) on this matter, Jeremy Crawford states: Leomund's tiny hut creates a dome, not a hemisphere. There's no floor. In his subsequent tweet, Jeremy Crawford states Leomund's tiny hut does have a floor, Mr. Crawford (read your own book). The spell's range entry says the effect is hemispherical.
Rules As Written the spell creates a dome in the shape of a hemisphere, meaning it has a floor.
Rules As Intended the spell creates a magical hut with a domed shape and a floor.
No errata is needed because the errata would simply be "read the book" as Mr. Crawford tweeted above when it was still called Twitter and now X.
Rules as written the spell creates a dome in the shape of a hemisphere, meaning it does not have a floor. A hemisphere is a section of a sphere, it does not involve any surfaces that are not part of the sphere.
Rules as Intended is unknown.
Crawford is, frankly, not good at either writing or reading rules. He read the same rule twice and came to two different conclusions, probably because someone argued with him, and neither version has been 'blessed' by officially including it in SAC. SAC is not errata, SAC is clarification of unclear rules, and this would qualify.
Rules as written the spell creates a dome in the shape of a hemisphere, meaning it does not have a floor. A hemisphere is a section of a sphere, it does not involve any surfaces that are not part of the sphere.
Rules as Intended is unknown.
Rules as Written the spell creates a dome in the shape of a hemisphere which does mean that the Tiny Hut has a floor. Otherwise it would just read dome because domes do not necessarily have floors. Thus hemisphere is not used if there is no floor.
Rules as Intended is that the spell creates a tiny hut with a floor and a comfortable environment regardless of exterior conditions so that the player characters can easily rest.
There is nothing unclear about what Mr. Crawford wrote. He originally made a mistake and neglected to read the range of the spell, only the description. He subsequently reread the entirety of the spell and realized that hemisphere is there. Maybe someone pointed it out to him. Maybe he realized his mistake all on his own. He then pointed out that hemisphere was intentionally used when someone asked him about it. Why would you presume that he changed his ruling because someone argued with him?
Whereas you tried to define hemisphere as a volume, which is an incorrect definition of the word. A hemisphere has a volume but is not the volume it contains. A hemisphere is half of a sphere which is divided by a plane of symmetry. The plane of symmetry of the Tiny Hut would be the floor. In other words, the only way to come to the conclusion that the Tiny Hut, as written, does not have a floor is to wrongly define the words used in the wording of the spell. Which, when you are DMing, you are free to do. But it does not change the RAW or RAI it is simply your Homebrew. .
Thezzaruz, to answer your question: Yes PHB is the physical Players Handbook or PDF version. But in DnDBeyond (DDB) there is no errata with the exception of adding a sphere symbol in the casting. "Tiny Hut" is a direct rip of "Lemund's Tiny Hut" from the Wizard spell. The verbiage is almost the same but in Lemund's spell, it does say the spell casts as a hemisphere dome in the PHB. A little more clear to be certain.
DDB is not an official rules source though, the PHB is. The tiny hut is AFAIK the only spell that uses "hemisphere" in its range so I'd bet good money on DDB just being lazy and using the sphere image they use in multiple places instead of creating a new unique image for that one (well two) spell(s).
The players handbook was a misprint that has subsequently been corrected in the D&DB web site. Or at least clarified by the removal of that one word.
No no no. This website cannot correct anything, it is not an official rules source.
And while I would never consider random tweets as an official rules source either it is at least quite clear that the RAI is that the hut should have a floor.
I find it interesting that DDB is not an official rules source even though WotC uses it as such.
Bluntly, I don't consider 'sage advice" an official rule source, for that matter. Or any comments from developers, or any rule book that has been superceded by updated publications (so PHB is barely still in there, even though some of the books that followed it were delisted).
I mean, if threads in this forum are going to be playing all of that, then they aren't about Rules as Written. They are about Rules as the best rules lawyer can make them, but without a judge.
That said, since I did have to do a rewrite of the spells for my next campaign, I went ahead and said the hut had a floor and that it must be cast on a surface that can support it. And mostly because my DM group reminded me I *used* to say it had a floor. Under 2e rules.
I hate rewriting spells, though. it is super boring. and I keep coming up with variants of existing ones as I go and it just takes forever.
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i for one accept that the publishers do and often make mistakes.
The fact that they have not clarified this or any other ambiguity's in any published official work is a wonder to many people in the D&D world. But that is all personal opinion on my part.
Domes do not have floors they sit on floors. Hemispheres do not have floors they do not have a flat side that is just the area a sphere was cut through.
Hemispheres do not have floors they do not have a flat side that is just the area a sphere was cut through.
Cut a soccer ball in half. Where is the floor?
The flat side of the hemisphere in this context is either a wall or floor depending on which way the hemisphere was built. The hemisphere does not need to be a sphere cut in half since it is a construction. When the Astrodome was built they did not construct a giant soccer ball, cut it in half, and then place one half on the ground while throwing the other half away.
The reason they don't clarify is probably because they don't really need to and they want to allow people to play the game the way those people want to play it. They also likely didn't want to spend ten times as much on printing books that include descriptions you would see in a legal agreement.
Which of the following sounds more logical?
"My name is Leomund and I'm tired of sleeping on the cold, wet ground. So I shall create a spell where I will still sleep on the cold, wet ground but I'll have a dome filled with comfortable dry air to breathe and light to see if I want it."
"My name is Leomund and I'm tired of sleeping on the cold, wet ground. So I shall create a spell where I can sleep on a comfortable, dry floor and I'll have a dome filled with comfortable dry air to breathe and light to see if I want it."
Incorrect. The plane of symmetry is not part of the hemisphere, it's just the knife used to cut the sphere in half.
You are incorrect again. You continue to conflate a physical structure with a geometric/mathematical representation.
Look at the formula for area of a spherical cap. Area is 2πrh, and a true hemisphere has height equal to radius, giving an area of 2πr^2. As the surface area of a sphere is 4πr^2 and the hemisphere is half of that, the definition of the surface area (and thus, the surface) is clearly not including the intersecting plane (if it did, area would be 3πr^2).
Now to fan the fire of what I am seeing becoming a raging inferno I would like to point out that we are discussing two different spells here. Though simular they have some differences in both the Players Handbook and DnDBeyond.
The spells are Lemund's Tiny Hut and Tiny Hut.
Lemund's Tiny Hut is a Wizard spell.
Tiny Hut is a Cleric spell.
BREAKING NEWS!!! if you wanna call it that.
I just discovered while writing this, that the spell "Tiny Hut" DOES NOT EXIST in the actual Players Handbook. It is only from the DnDBeyond site stating it is from the "Basic Rules" at the bottom of the page. I happen to have a Roll20 account and Tiny Hut is listed in their Basic Rules of DnD 5e but for reference, I will not include that as a canon source. But it has Lemund's Tiny Hut spell description from the PHB and not the one from the DnDBeyond website. I then downloaded a copy of the DnD Basic Rules since they are free. Tiny Hut is not listed there either. Can someone please be consistent here? Just saying.
Back to my point.
Only Lemund's version of the spell mentions Hemisphere. The Tiny Hut does not state that at all on DDB.
So, to that conclusion, I would argue the Cleric version has no floor, and going off of what everyone is pointing out here the Wizard one does have a floor. Again DM discretion. Since the Wizard version mentions Hemisphere. But in the body of the description of both versions, the spells state "The atmosphere inside the space is comfortable and dry, regardless of the weather outside." However, (again being nit-picky) the atmosphere is the air inside the Hut. Not the ground. I looked up the word atmosphere cause I smert. ;P
The difference in my opinion is pretty obvious now.
But the clearest part of all this is I am going to be banning this spell from the Cleric list. Keep wizard relevant. hehehe
Thanks again everyone for doing a great job beating this one to death. I can't wait for the next thing I come up with to see what we can do with it. We be breaking da rules down. One word at a time! This is Meddros OUT! .... well not really out. I mean I do keep reading these things. Plus I have another game next week so I will most likely come up with something from that session that confuses me. You would think after 40 years of this nonsense I would have it all figured out. But no. Here I am on a forum asking fellow DMs to help me understand the game. It's like...
Med?
Yes, what?
You're rambling again.
Oops sorry, all. Bye
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Probably because leomund's Tiny Hut listing includes it in the Twilight Domain, Bard, and Wizard lists, whereas just "tiny hut" is only found in the Bard and Wizard lists.
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The difference is "tiny Hut" is "Basic Rules" and Leomund's TIny Hut is Player's Handbook. The spell is otherwise identical across published and DDB (Save fo the specific mention of hemisphere in the printed format).
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Yeah, I know, but thought I would include the info for *ahem* other folks.
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Well, he was saying it was the other way around -- that Tiny Hut was the cleric spell. I'm curious where you found this "listing" for Leomund's Tiny Hut that includes it in the Twilight Domain for Clerics? This doesn't appear anywhere in the PHB. The Twilight Domain comes from an optional book where that subclass does happen to have this spell as a domain spell for some reason but that doesn't mean it's a cleric spell per se.
The Cleric class has rule within the Divine Domain section that reads like this:
If you have a domain spell that doesn’t appear on the cleric spell list, the spell is nonetheless a cleric spell for you.
This implies that a "cleric spell" is a spell that does "appear on the cleric spell list", but this domain feature provides an exception to that general rule.
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(notes that in the first place, the pell didn't even block attacks when it was first created. It just blocked weather. later, they added a second spell that gave protection from attacks. Evne later, the two were combined into what we have today.)
That said, I am willing to acknowledge a floor, .
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The players handbook was a misprint that has subsequently been corrected in the D&DB web site. Or at least clarified by the removal of that one word.
Your basing ALL of your arguments on that one word that is not even used in the verbal description of the spell.
And then your basing even more on yours and only your description of a dome and hemisphere.
The verbal description mentions nothing about a floor.
I can find no geometric or mathematical description that specifically says a hemisphere or even a dome has a "floor".
I could build a dome over a hole.
Sure, you "can" move through it. And you "must" fall when not supported as a very basic general rule.
If you think it is incorrect, quote where the spell says that it can or will support creatures inside it?
You're focused on the wrong " can". Yes, it "can allow them to leave.
But where does it say that the effect "can" support them?
It doesn't.
So it can't.
I'm probably laughing.
It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.
Rules as written the spell creates a dome in the shape of a hemisphere, meaning it does not have a floor. A hemisphere is a section of a sphere, it does not involve any surfaces that are not part of the sphere.
Rules as Intended is unknown.
Crawford is, frankly, not good at either writing or reading rules. He read the same rule twice and came to two different conclusions, probably because someone argued with him, and neither version has been 'blessed' by officially including it in SAC. SAC is not errata, SAC is clarification of unclear rules, and this would qualify.
Rules as Written the spell creates a dome in the shape of a hemisphere which does mean that the Tiny Hut has a floor. Otherwise it would just read dome because domes do not necessarily have floors. Thus hemisphere is not used if there is no floor.
Rules as Intended is that the spell creates a tiny hut with a floor and a comfortable environment regardless of exterior conditions so that the player characters can easily rest.
There is nothing unclear about what Mr. Crawford wrote. He originally made a mistake and neglected to read the range of the spell, only the description. He subsequently reread the entirety of the spell and realized that hemisphere is there. Maybe someone pointed it out to him. Maybe he realized his mistake all on his own. He then pointed out that hemisphere was intentionally used when someone asked him about it. Why would you presume that he changed his ruling because someone argued with him?
Whereas you tried to define hemisphere as a volume, which is an incorrect definition of the word. A hemisphere has a volume but is not the volume it contains. A hemisphere is half of a sphere which is divided by a plane of symmetry. The plane of symmetry of the Tiny Hut would be the floor. In other words, the only way to come to the conclusion that the Tiny Hut, as written, does not have a floor is to wrongly define the words used in the wording of the spell. Which, when you are DMing, you are free to do. But it does not change the RAW or RAI it is simply your Homebrew. .
Incorrect. The plane of symmetry is not part of the hemisphere, it's just the knife used to cut the sphere in half.
DDB is not an official rules source though, the PHB is. The tiny hut is AFAIK the only spell that uses "hemisphere" in its range so I'd bet good money on DDB just being lazy and using the sphere image they use in multiple places instead of creating a new unique image for that one (well two) spell(s).
No no no. This website cannot correct anything, it is not an official rules source.
And while I would never consider random tweets as an official rules source either it is at least quite clear that the RAI is that the hut should have a floor.
You are incorrect again. You continue to conflate a physical structure with a geometric/mathematical representation.
I find it interesting that DDB is not an official rules source even though WotC uses it as such.
Bluntly, I don't consider 'sage advice" an official rule source, for that matter. Or any comments from developers, or any rule book that has been superceded by updated publications (so PHB is barely still in there, even though some of the books that followed it were delisted).
I mean, if threads in this forum are going to be playing all of that, then they aren't about Rules as Written. They are about Rules as the best rules lawyer can make them, but without a judge.
That said, since I did have to do a rewrite of the spells for my next campaign, I went ahead and said the hut had a floor and that it must be cast on a surface that can support it. And mostly because my DM group reminded me I *used* to say it had a floor. Under 2e rules.
I hate rewriting spells, though. it is super boring. and I keep coming up with variants of existing ones as I go and it just takes forever.
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i for one accept that the publishers do and often make mistakes.
The fact that they have not clarified this or any other ambiguity's in any published official work is a wonder to many people in the D&D world.
But that is all personal opinion on my part.
Domes do not have floors they sit on floors. Hemispheres do not have floors they do not have a flat side that is just the area a sphere was cut through.
Cut a soccer ball in half. Where is the floor?
RAI should be read as Rules as interpreted.
The flat side of the hemisphere in this context is either a wall or floor depending on which way the hemisphere was built. The hemisphere does not need to be a sphere cut in half since it is a construction. When the Astrodome was built they did not construct a giant soccer ball, cut it in half, and then place one half on the ground while throwing the other half away.
The reason they don't clarify is probably because they don't really need to and they want to allow people to play the game the way those people want to play it. They also likely didn't want to spend ten times as much on printing books that include descriptions you would see in a legal agreement.
Which of the following sounds more logical?
"My name is Leomund and I'm tired of sleeping on the cold, wet ground. So I shall create a spell where I will still sleep on the cold, wet ground but I'll have a dome filled with comfortable dry air to breathe and light to see if I want it."
"My name is Leomund and I'm tired of sleeping on the cold, wet ground. So I shall create a spell where I can sleep on a comfortable, dry floor and I'll have a dome filled with comfortable dry air to breathe and light to see if I want it."
Look at the formula for area of a spherical cap. Area is 2πrh, and a true hemisphere has height equal to radius, giving an area of 2πr^2. As the surface area of a sphere is 4πr^2 and the hemisphere is half of that, the definition of the surface area (and thus, the surface) is clearly not including the intersecting plane (if it did, area would be 3πr^2).
Now to fan the fire of what I am seeing becoming a raging inferno I would like to point out that we are discussing two different spells here. Though simular they have some differences in both the Players Handbook and DnDBeyond.
The spells are Lemund's Tiny Hut and Tiny Hut.
Lemund's Tiny Hut is a Wizard spell.
Tiny Hut is a Cleric spell.
BREAKING NEWS!!! if you wanna call it that.
I just discovered while writing this, that the spell "Tiny Hut" DOES NOT EXIST in the actual Players Handbook. It is only from the DnDBeyond site stating it is from the "Basic Rules" at the bottom of the page. I happen to have a Roll20 account and Tiny Hut is listed in their Basic Rules of DnD 5e but for reference, I will not include that as a canon source. But it has Lemund's Tiny Hut spell description from the PHB and not the one from the DnDBeyond website. I then downloaded a copy of the DnD Basic Rules since they are free. Tiny Hut is not listed there either. Can someone please be consistent here? Just saying.
Back to my point.
Only Lemund's version of the spell mentions Hemisphere. The Tiny Hut does not state that at all on DDB.
So, to that conclusion, I would argue the Cleric version has no floor, and going off of what everyone is pointing out here the Wizard one does have a floor. Again DM discretion. Since the Wizard version mentions Hemisphere. But in the body of the description of both versions, the spells state "The atmosphere inside the space is comfortable and dry, regardless of the weather outside." However, (again being nit-picky) the atmosphere is the air inside the Hut. Not the ground. I looked up the word atmosphere cause I smert. ;P
The difference in my opinion is pretty obvious now.
But the clearest part of all this is I am going to be banning this spell from the Cleric list. Keep wizard relevant. hehehe
Thanks again everyone for doing a great job beating this one to death. I can't wait for the next thing I come up with to see what we can do with it. We be breaking da rules down. One word at a time! This is Meddros OUT! .... well not really out. I mean I do keep reading these things. Plus I have another game next week so I will most likely come up with something from that session that confuses me. You would think after 40 years of this nonsense I would have it all figured out. But no. Here I am on a forum asking fellow DMs to help me understand the game. It's like...
Med?
Yes, what?
You're rambling again.
Oops sorry, all. Bye
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Why do you think this is a Cleric spell?
Probably because leomund's Tiny Hut listing includes it in the Twilight Domain, Bard, and Wizard lists, whereas just "tiny hut" is only found in the Bard and Wizard lists.
Edit:
The difference is "tiny Hut" is "Basic Rules" and Leomund's TIny Hut is Player's Handbook. The spell is otherwise identical across published and DDB (Save fo the specific mention of hemisphere in the printed format).
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The reason Tiny Hut isn't listed for Twilight Clerics is because Twilight Clerics are not SRD.
Yeah, I know, but thought I would include the info for *ahem* other folks.
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Well, he was saying it was the other way around -- that Tiny Hut was the cleric spell. I'm curious where you found this "listing" for Leomund's Tiny Hut that includes it in the Twilight Domain for Clerics? This doesn't appear anywhere in the PHB. The Twilight Domain comes from an optional book where that subclass does happen to have this spell as a domain spell for some reason but that doesn't mean it's a cleric spell per se.
The Cleric class has rule within the Divine Domain section that reads like this:
This implies that a "cleric spell" is a spell that does "appear on the cleric spell list", but this domain feature provides an exception to that general rule.