I'm prepping a new campaign for the start of the new year. I don't have the time to homebrew a campaign. (Full time work, mother of a toddler, etc.) I preordered Shadow of the Dragon Queen. (Very excited to look through it once it comes out!) I'm wondering if one could run Tyranny of Dragons... and then somehow get the party transported to Krynn to run Shadow of the Dragon Queen. I'll probably have more input once the campaign is released, but for now... do we think this is possible?
I mean, there are spells like Dream of the Blue Veil that can get the party there, and Spelljamming etc or whatever conceit you feel as a DM is appropriate.
The problem is Tyranny of Dragons takes the party to level 13 or so? Shadow of the Dragon Queen starts presuming the party is level 1. This is a persistent "problem" with D&D adventures. The books are more campaign books designed to take a party from level 1 to somewhere in the 10-15 range. WotC has very little available published to give a party things to do after that.
Regardless, Tyranny of Dragons if played fully is basically a "Campaign length" game, as is Shadow of the Dragon Queen. One thing you could do with your players is run Tyranny of Dragons to its completion. Then, however that ended up (victory or defeat) you can run Shadow of the Dragon Queen to show what Tiamat "winning" Tyranny would lead to in another world, so the players will know what their prior heroes either saved their world from or ushered in, just through the eyes of a new party.
After running something like Tyranny in its entirety, it's very common for players to roll up a new party for the next adventure book. Benefits to it too. Players get to try a different sort of character chiefly.
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I appreciate the input! I'll definitely start with Tyranny, and see where the players want to go with it. They are currently preparing "pop culture reference" characters... pray for me.
I'm prepping a new campaign for the start of the new year. I don't have the time to homebrew a campaign. (Full time work, mother of a toddler, etc.) I preordered Shadow of the Dragon Queen. (Very excited to look through it once it comes out!) I'm wondering if one could run Tyranny of Dragons... and then somehow get the party transported to Krynn to run Shadow of the Dragon Queen. I'll probably have more input once the campaign is released, but for now... do we think this is possible?
That’s a great idea! I read somewhere that Tiamat and Takhisis from Dragonlance are basically the same god.
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I remember reading something from a DM who would have a high-level party roll a d20 after a long rest or a nat1 and their PCs would be set back to that level for the day to cause chaotic power swings and it how made lower-level encounters interesting since they had to refigure out their characters and how they could work together again
I appreciate the input! I'll definitely start with Tyranny, and see where the players want to go with it. They are currently preparing "pop culture reference" characters... pray for me.
If they somehow make it to the end, there's stuff to do after Tyranny in the game world, and having run them through it you'd be in a good place to run them further if they wanted to stay. At least, if they win, there's lot of loose ends to tie off. You wouldn't really need to "prep" since you'd (ideally) have kept notes on the campaign so things sort of just run themself at that point.
Or switch to Dragonlance.
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That was what the input I was looking for! Before the books come out, and before the one article was published pretty much explaining Tiamat and Takhisis, I couldn't tell if they were the same. I like MidnightPlat's suggestion of it could be, "What IF Tiamat DIDN'T lose" or the opposite ending of how Tyranny plays out.
We don’t know ( or at least I don’t) what level shadow will end at so another thing you could do is ignore the lower levels and have someone ( like elminster) gate the party to Krynn and the play out the last couple of levels to block/end the threat on two worlds. Maybe the hero’s of that world were TPK Ed and this is an emergency transfer.
Late but in case OP hasn't started yet, my advise would be to run Shadow of the Dragon Queen first and then run Rise of Tiamat with names, NPCs and factions adapted to match Krynn instead
Was planning on the same thing, plus Storm King's Thunder and the Chroma Conclave from Critical Role. My plan was to do the first 2-3 chapters of Tyranny, run Storm King, then during their celebratory victory after they win Storm King interrupted it with the Chroma Conclave/Ch 3 of Dragon Queen. There'd be some level adjusting to get Dragon Queen to have the PCs start around 13 and end around 19-20.
Be ironic if somebody got stuck on the wrong side of the portal in the Well of Dragons as it closed only to be thrown through another gate into the Temple of Takhisis in Neraka just as the fight starts there!
I'm prepping a new campaign for the start of the new year. I don't have the time to homebrew a campaign. (Full time work, mother of a toddler, etc.) I preordered Shadow of the Dragon Queen. (Very excited to look through it once it comes out!) I'm wondering if one could run Tyranny of Dragons... and then somehow get the party transported to Krynn to run Shadow of the Dragon Queen. I'll probably have more input once the campaign is released, but for now... do we think this is possible?
I mean, there are spells like Dream of the Blue Veil that can get the party there, and Spelljamming etc or whatever conceit you feel as a DM is appropriate.
The problem is Tyranny of Dragons takes the party to level 13 or so? Shadow of the Dragon Queen starts presuming the party is level 1. This is a persistent "problem" with D&D adventures. The books are more campaign books designed to take a party from level 1 to somewhere in the 10-15 range. WotC has very little available published to give a party things to do after that.
Regardless, Tyranny of Dragons if played fully is basically a "Campaign length" game, as is Shadow of the Dragon Queen. One thing you could do with your players is run Tyranny of Dragons to its completion. Then, however that ended up (victory or defeat) you can run Shadow of the Dragon Queen to show what Tiamat "winning" Tyranny would lead to in another world, so the players will know what their prior heroes either saved their world from or ushered in, just through the eyes of a new party.
After running something like Tyranny in its entirety, it's very common for players to roll up a new party for the next adventure book. Benefits to it too. Players get to try a different sort of character chiefly.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
I appreciate the input! I'll definitely start with Tyranny, and see where the players want to go with it. They are currently preparing "pop culture reference" characters... pray for me.
That’s a great idea! I read somewhere that Tiamat and Takhisis from Dragonlance are basically the same god.
I really like D&D, especially Ravenloft, Exandria and the Upside Down from Stranger Things. My pronouns are she/they (genderfae).
I remember reading something from a DM who would have a high-level party roll a d20 after a long rest or a nat1 and their PCs would be set back to that level for the day to cause chaotic power swings and it how made lower-level encounters interesting since they had to refigure out their characters and how they could work together again
If they somehow make it to the end, there's stuff to do after Tyranny in the game world, and having run them through it you'd be in a good place to run them further if they wanted to stay. At least, if they win, there's lot of loose ends to tie off. You wouldn't really need to "prep" since you'd (ideally) have kept notes on the campaign so things sort of just run themself at that point.
Or switch to Dragonlance.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
That was what the input I was looking for! Before the books come out, and before the one article was published pretty much explaining Tiamat and Takhisis, I couldn't tell if they were the same. I like MidnightPlat's suggestion of it could be, "What IF Tiamat DIDN'T lose" or the opposite ending of how Tyranny plays out.
We don’t know ( or at least I don’t) what level shadow will end at so another thing you could do is ignore the lower levels and have someone ( like elminster) gate the party to Krynn and the play out the last couple of levels to block/end the threat on two worlds. Maybe the hero’s of that world were TPK Ed and this is an emergency transfer.
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Late but in case OP hasn't started yet, my advise would be to run Shadow of the Dragon Queen first and then run Rise of Tiamat with names, NPCs and factions adapted to match Krynn instead
Was planning on the same thing, plus Storm King's Thunder and the Chroma Conclave from Critical Role. My plan was to do the first 2-3 chapters of Tyranny, run Storm King, then during their celebratory victory after they win Storm King interrupted it with the Chroma Conclave/Ch 3 of Dragon Queen. There'd be some level adjusting to get Dragon Queen to have the PCs start around 13 and end around 19-20.
Be ironic if somebody got stuck on the wrong side of the portal in the Well of Dragons as it closed only to be thrown through another gate into the Temple of Takhisis in Neraka just as the fight starts there!