I'm currently trying to come up with a fun way to play an homage to everyones favorite god of trickery, but i'm unsure how to go about it. On one hand he's a powerful sorcerer, but the trickery domain seems really good too. I was also thinking warlock? Any help would be great!!!
I would say trickery domain cleric. I feel like Loki's most prominent magic is the duplicate projection, which is basically straight up Invoke Duplicity.
Otherwise I might go with an Archfey Warlock, because it's the most illusion-focused of the patrons, and you could say since he was taught magic by his mother who was raised by witches (witches in d&d having a more fey connotation), it would make sense for him to have learnt fey magic. He also doesn't rely totally on his magic, using it mostly in clutch situations just like a warlock with their limited spell slots, so I could easily see someone making him as a bladelock dual wielding his daggers (or a shortsword like the one he gets at the end of the show). You might even consider multiclassing Rogue, maybe Mastermind.
Marvel characters undergo so many changes through so many universes that you can get pretty weird with it.
Canonically, I would recommend a Divine Soul Sorcerer.
A) Loki is a natural magic user. (i.e. not a wizard) B) He is literally a God, or at least God adjacent (Divine nature) C) Undeniable Charisma (Charisma based caster) D) Not a blaster, nor melee fighter(Not a good Warlock fit)
Being a trickster is a choice, but he ought to be capable of much more, if properly motivated.
E) He is specifically known for transforming himself into other creatures/people, including siring Slepnir. (Transmutation: Disguise Self,Alter Self, Polymorph) F) Obviously enchantment/illusion magic
A Bard could be a good mechanical fit, since they are wonderfully well rounded, however, Bards are a support class, and Loki isn't particularly well known for being a team-player.
The Trickery Domain is obviously appealing, but the gimmick would come at the cost of Loki's truer nature.
However, if you're wanting to emulate his more mainstream media personality, then you might opt for Hexblade Warlock as mentioned above. (Mask of Many Faces, Trickster's Escape, etc...)
I was thinking in terms of making a something I'd enjoy playing. It's true, Loki isn't really suited to the support role. He's not really Evil as such, but he's not at all Good either, I'd call him Chaotic Neutral, the kind who's only in it for themselves, and even when they seem to be trying to help, they're up to something that they'll come out with for themselves. His desire is pretty much always shown as being power. He shapeshifts quite a bit...
Circle of Wildfire Druid. Loki is willing to burn the whole world to ashes if that's what it takes to get power.
Marvel characters undergo so many changes through so many universes that you can get pretty weird with it.
Canonically, I would recommend a Divine Soul Sorcerer.
A) Loki is a natural magic user. (i.e. not a wizard)
I would argue that loki isn't a natural magic user. They're just shy of 1500 years old at this point, and it hasn't talked much about how loki learned magic aside from there being a strong connection between him and his mother, who was a magic user. To me the relationship speaks more of her taking him under her wing and teaching him rather than simply natural aptitude.
definitely not a warlock as he answers to no one. he'd just be a low-level sorcerer (although someof his spells would be unlimited use imo - not tied to slots, more like super powerful cantrips) / high-level rogue that you just can't kill.
Marvel characters undergo so many changes through so many universes that you can get pretty weird with it.
Canonically, I would recommend a Divine Soul Sorcerer.
A) Loki is a natural magic user. (i.e. not a wizard)
I would argue that loki isn't a natural magic user. They're just shy of 1500 years old at this point, and it hasn't talked much about how loki learned magic aside from there being a strong connection between him and his mother, who was a magic user. To me the relationship speaks more of her taking him under her wing and teaching him rather than simply natural aptitude.
Yeah,in the loki TV show,this is brought up,and made clear They were taught magic,and it was also made clear, their not the best at it.Well, at least not the main one.
Being "natural" and "trained" are not mutually exclusive. Like having muscles and making them stronger.
The extremes of this would be Scarlet Witch as a fully "natural/intuitive" magic user, and Doctor Strange as a fully "academic" magic user.
Loki has an inherent capability to harness magic, which has been shown in the TV series through unintentional outbursts. His form of magic is also very compatible with metamagic.
In other words, he doesn't "cast spells", he "does magic".
He uses illusion magic and likes stabbing people with daggers, or at least trying to. Arcane trickster. Bonus points for it having the word trickster right in the name.
He uses illusion magic and likes stabbing people with daggers, or at least trying to. Arcane trickster. Bonus points for it having the word trickster right in the name.
Unfortunately their sort of signature feature, the mage hand, isn't in his repertoire. Also, especially in the series, his fighting involves a fair bit of what I can only describe as Eldritch Blasts, in addition to the daggers.
It feels like you've gotta give him Mislead, which is a 5th level spell. So I'd make him a full caster or a Warlock. Warlocks can get the spell if you allow the extended list in Tasha's.
I'm currently trying to come up with a fun way to play an homage to everyones favorite god of trickery, but i'm unsure how to go about it. On one hand he's a powerful sorcerer, but the trickery domain seems really good too. I was also thinking warlock? Any help would be great!!!
I'd probably make him a Bard. When it comes to trickery and illusion, I can't think of any class that does it better.
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I would say trickery domain cleric. I feel like Loki's most prominent magic is the duplicate projection, which is basically straight up Invoke Duplicity.
Otherwise I might go with an Archfey Warlock, because it's the most illusion-focused of the patrons, and you could say since he was taught magic by his mother who was raised by witches (witches in d&d having a more fey connotation), it would make sense for him to have learnt fey magic. He also doesn't rely totally on his magic, using it mostly in clutch situations just like a warlock with their limited spell slots, so I could easily see someone making him as a bladelock dual wielding his daggers (or a shortsword like the one he gets at the end of the show). You might even consider multiclassing Rogue, maybe Mastermind.
Those are my thoughts.
Marvel characters undergo so many changes through so many universes that you can get pretty weird with it.
Canonically, I would recommend a Divine Soul Sorcerer.
A) Loki is a natural magic user. (i.e. not a wizard)
B) He is literally a God, or at least God adjacent (Divine nature)
C) Undeniable Charisma (Charisma based caster)
D) Not a blaster, nor melee fighter(Not a good Warlock fit)
Being a trickster is a choice, but he ought to be capable of much more, if properly motivated.
E) He is specifically known for transforming himself into other creatures/people, including siring Slepnir. (Transmutation: Disguise Self,Alter Self, Polymorph)
F) Obviously enchantment/illusion magic
A Bard could be a good mechanical fit, since they are wonderfully well rounded, however, Bards are a support class, and Loki isn't particularly well known for being a team-player.
The Trickery Domain is obviously appealing, but the gimmick would come at the cost of Loki's truer nature.
However, if you're wanting to emulate his more mainstream media personality, then you might opt for Hexblade Warlock as mentioned above. (Mask of Many Faces, Trickster's Escape, etc...)
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With a fork.
While my family stared at me from across the table, with concerned grimaces on their faces.
And the television playing in the background.
The garden's plants in the kitchen sink.
"This is important!"
That's how I would build Loki.
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I was thinking in terms of making a something I'd enjoy playing. It's true, Loki isn't really suited to the support role. He's not really Evil as such, but he's not at all Good either, I'd call him Chaotic Neutral, the kind who's only in it for themselves, and even when they seem to be trying to help, they're up to something that they'll come out with for themselves. His desire is pretty much always shown as being power. He shapeshifts quite a bit...
Circle of Wildfire Druid. Loki is willing to burn the whole world to ashes if that's what it takes to get power.
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I would argue that loki isn't a natural magic user. They're just shy of 1500 years old at this point, and it hasn't talked much about how loki learned magic aside from there being a strong connection between him and his mother, who was a magic user. To me the relationship speaks more of her taking him under her wing and teaching him rather than simply natural aptitude.
definitely not a warlock as he answers to no one. he'd just be a low-level sorcerer (although someof his spells would be unlimited use imo - not tied to slots, more like super powerful cantrips) / high-level rogue that you just can't kill.
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Yeah,in the loki TV show,this is brought up,and made clear They were taught magic,and it was also made clear, their not the best at it.Well, at least not the main one.
Being "natural" and "trained" are not mutually exclusive. Like having muscles and making them stronger.
The extremes of this would be Scarlet Witch as a fully "natural/intuitive" magic user, and Doctor Strange as a fully "academic" magic user.
Loki has an inherent capability to harness magic, which has been shown in the TV series through unintentional outbursts. His form of magic is also very compatible with metamagic.
In other words, he doesn't "cast spells", he "does magic".
He uses illusion magic and likes stabbing people with daggers, or at least trying to. Arcane trickster. Bonus points for it having the word trickster right in the name.
Unfortunately their sort of signature feature, the mage hand, isn't in his repertoire. Also, especially in the series, his fighting involves a fair bit of what I can only describe as Eldritch Blasts, in addition to the daggers.
It feels like you've gotta give him Mislead, which is a 5th level spell. So I'd make him a full caster or a Warlock. Warlocks can get the spell if you allow the extended list in Tasha's.