Question on how the community rules if face with these circumstances. The PHB identifies certain classes can only change spells when the gain a level in the class (Bard, Ranger, Sorcerer, Warlock as examples). Therefore the player multi-classing as Bard and Ranger can only change a Bard spell when they level up as a Bard.
But with the introduction of sources that Tasha's Cauldron of Everything and Xanathar's Guide to Everything there are classes, features, and feats that grant a character a spell. This means it is possible for a character to be granted a spell that they already know but in a class that they did not level up in when they received the spell.
Using the example of the Bard/Ranger. If the player starts off as Bard and knows the "Disguise Self" spell. When they later take the Ranger class and choose the "Gloom Stalker"; they learn "Disguise Self" at 3rd level. So does that mean the character potentially loses a known spell until they change levels of Bard again because the spell is duplicated between classes?
Similar questions apply to feats like Fey Touched and Shadow Touched. If you select the feat when you level up in one class, but not in the class you had the given spell (i.e. Misty Step for the FT feat) are you again down a known spell until you level up in the class that can drop Misty Step?
It looks like the original PHB didn't account for archetypes learning spells or the spells that come with feats would also allow the character to use spells slots on top of its one use per day feature. Is it a fair ruling to allow character to replace the duplicated spell (in the example, the Bard can remove "Disguise Self" and replace it with a new Bard spell once they take 3rd Level at "Gloom Stalker")?
Unless I'm terribly misreading the books, I think you're basically right... RAW, you're given specific circumstances for when and how you can change your known spells, and it's generally tied to a level up in the chosen class. I think most DM's will be generous enough to let you change your spells known when you come across rare redundancies like that... I've certainly never seen it be a problem at any table, but that is still tied to DM discretion.
Question on how the community rules if face with these circumstances. The PHB identifies certain classes can only change spells when the gain a level in the class (Bard, Ranger, Sorcerer, Warlock as examples). Therefore the player multi-classing as Bard and Ranger can only change a Bard spell when they level up as a Bard.
But with the introduction of sources that Tasha's Cauldron of Everything and Xanathar's Guide to Everything there are classes, features, and feats that grant a character a spell. This means it is possible for a character to be granted a spell that they already know but in a class that they did not level up in when they received the spell.
Using the example of the Bard/Ranger. If the player starts off as Bard and knows the "Disguise Self" spell. When they later take the Ranger class and choose the "Gloom Stalker"; they learn "Disguise Self" at 3rd level. So does that mean the character potentially loses a known spell until they change levels of Bard again because the spell is duplicated between classes?
Similar questions apply to feats like Fey Touched and Shadow Touched. If you select the feat when you level up in one class, but not in the class you had the given spell (i.e. Misty Step for the FT feat) are you again down a known spell until you level up in the class that can drop Misty Step?
It looks like the original PHB didn't account for archetypes learning spells or the spells that come with feats would also allow the character to use spells slots on top of its one use per day feature. Is it a fair ruling to allow character to replace the duplicated spell (in the example, the Bard can remove "Disguise Self" and replace it with a new Bard spell once they take 3rd Level at "Gloom Stalker")?
Unless I'm terribly misreading the books, I think you're basically right... RAW, you're given specific circumstances for when and how you can change your known spells, and it's generally tied to a level up in the chosen class. I think most DM's will be generous enough to let you change your spells known when you come across rare redundancies like that... I've certainly never seen it be a problem at any table, but that is still tied to DM discretion.
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