Has anyone seen anything that suggests half-elves are getting trance? Or will half-elves get their advantage on charm and magical sleep revoked? Here is the full blurb on the Reddit pages for context.
Fey Ancestry
The magical sleep immunity of this trait has been moved to the Trance trait that elves have.
Goblinoids (goblins, hobgoblins, and bugbears) have all gained this new version of the trait.
Trance
As mentioned above, this trait now grants immunity to magical slumber.
It is now more clearly specified that you are conscious while taking a long rest.
When you now finish a long rest, this trait allows you to gain two proficiencies that you don't have. Each must be in a weapon or tool of your choice that is in the PHB. These proficiencies last until you take a long rest.
These changes apply to every elf in this book.
Thoughts? It says these changes apply to every elf but I would say that half-elves aren't elves, (mechanically speaking), but the above would imply that all those with Fey Ancestry get trance, (or maybe I am reading too much into it.)
I dislike these changes. The goblins were fine! Stop messing with them WotC! >:U!!
But to answer the question, it is difficult to guess what will happen other than the half-elf's fey ancestry will likely be updated to match as well. My gut says "No, they wouldn't add Trance to the half-elf, that's just making it even more absurdly strong." and then I remember how Tasha heralded in the powercreep hellscape we're in now and that all the races got buffed in MMM. So in PHB 2024, half-elves getting trance is in the running for speculation.
Do characters with fey ancestry know when an attempt to put them to sleep happens like if someone tried to put the full party asleep would an elf know someone attempted it straight away and be able to fake being asleep ?
Do characters with fey ancestry know when an attempt to put them to sleep happens like if someone tried to put the full party asleep would an elf know someone attempted it straight away and be able to fake being asleep ?
Do you always know when you’re under the effect of a spell?
You’re aware that a spell is affecting you if it has a perceptible effect or if its text says you’re aware of it (see PHB , under “Targets”). Most spells are obvious. For example, fireball burns you, cure wounds heals you, and command forces you to suddenly do something you didn’t intend. Certain spells are more subtle, yet you become aware of the spell at a time specified in the spell’s description. Charm person and detect thoughts are examples of such spells.
Some spells are so subtle that you might not know you were ever under their effects. A prime example of that sort of spell is suggestion. Assuming you failed to notice the spellcaster casting the spell, you might simply remember the caster saying, “The treasure you’re looking for isn’t here. Go look for it in the room at the top of the next tower.” You failed your saving throw, and off you went to the other tower, thinking it was your idea to go there. You and your companions might deduce that you were beguiled if evidence of the spell is found. It’s ultimately up to the DM whether you discover the presence of inconspicuous spells. Discovery usually comes through the use of skills like Arcana, Investigation, Insight, and Perception or through spells like detect magic.
In the case of an immunity like this, I'd say there is no perceptible effect if you're the only target (since you can't fall asleep), and the spell description doesn't specify a condition for awareness either (like charm person and detect thoughts do.) But if the spell targets you and your friends and they fall asleep and you don't, that would be a perceptible effect, and you would likely get to roll one of the skills noted above to see if your character figured out what's going on. If you figured it out quickly enough, then pretending to sleep would likely require a check of your own such as Deception or Performance. (And if the folks who cast sleep on your camp notice an elf or half-elf lying down with his eyes closed, they too would get a check to see if they know that should be impossible.)
Half elves aren’t going to be a thing anymore in One D&D, at least based on the preview from a couple months ago. If your character is the child of an elf and a human, mechanically they’ll either be a human or an elf. If they’re an elf, they’ll have the Trance trait the same as any other elf would.
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You're right, but we're all responding to a thread that was started over a year ago. The question is now moot, but at the time of the MToF release, it was a question.
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You're right, but we're all responding to a thread that was started over a year ago. The question is now moot, but at the time of the MToF release, it was a question.
I was responding to seanept, whose question wasn't the same as the opening topic.
I know I can do whatever I want at my table, but I still think it would be cool to have resistance to roll from the sleep spell requiring double your remaining HP to be slept
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Has anyone seen anything that suggests half-elves are getting trance? Or will half-elves get their advantage on charm and magical sleep revoked? Here is the full blurb on the Reddit pages for context.
Fey Ancestry
Trance
Thoughts? It says these changes apply to every elf but I would say that half-elves aren't elves, (mechanically speaking), but the above would imply that all those with Fey Ancestry get trance, (or maybe I am reading too much into it.)
I dislike these changes. The goblins were fine! Stop messing with them WotC! >:U!!
But to answer the question, it is difficult to guess what will happen other than the half-elf's fey ancestry will likely be updated to match as well. My gut says "No, they wouldn't add Trance to the half-elf, that's just making it even more absurdly strong." and then I remember how Tasha heralded in the powercreep hellscape we're in now and that all the races got buffed in MMM. So in PHB 2024, half-elves getting trance is in the running for speculation.
Er ek geng, þat er í þeim skóm er ek valda.
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Half-elves do not appear in Monsters of the Multiverse. Nothing will change for them.
Do characters with fey ancestry know when an attempt to put them to sleep happens like if someone tried to put the full party asleep would an elf know someone attempted it straight away and be able to fake being asleep ?
This is a DM call. Sage Advice has this to say:
In the case of an immunity like this, I'd say there is no perceptible effect if you're the only target (since you can't fall asleep), and the spell description doesn't specify a condition for awareness either (like charm person and detect thoughts do.) But if the spell targets you and your friends and they fall asleep and you don't, that would be a perceptible effect, and you would likely get to roll one of the skills noted above to see if your character figured out what's going on. If you figured it out quickly enough, then pretending to sleep would likely require a check of your own such as Deception or Performance. (And if the folks who cast sleep on your camp notice an elf or half-elf lying down with his eyes closed, they too would get a check to see if they know that should be impossible.)
Half elves aren’t going to be a thing anymore in One D&D, at least based on the preview from a couple months ago. If your character is the child of an elf and a human, mechanically they’ll either be a human or an elf. If they’re an elf, they’ll have the Trance trait the same as any other elf would.
I really like D&D, especially Ravenloft, Exandria and the Upside Down from Stranger Things. My pronouns are she/they (genderfae).
You're right, but we're all responding to a thread that was started over a year ago. The question is now moot, but at the time of the MToF release, it was a question.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
I was responding to seanept, whose question wasn't the same as the opening topic.
Yeah, that wasn't a direct reply to you it was a direct reply to another post.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
I know I can do whatever I want at my table, but I still think it would be cool to have resistance to roll from the sleep spell requiring double your remaining HP to be slept