I'm currently playing in a campaign, we're about 5 sessions in now and while I love my current character, Aarakocra barbarian who's been cursed thus unable to fly. I recently came up with a new character design I'm pretty eager to play. The issue is that in the campaign our characters are all level 3 whereas the character I've made is level 5 (Level 3 fighter archetype Echo Knight with level 1 wizard and level 1 monk)
I hate the idea of bringing in a level 5 and totally crushing any combat encounters but at the same time if I were to remove any of his levels to bring him down to level 3 I can see myself easily getting frustrated with being unable to play the character how I would like (Mostly from a RP point of view)
On top of this I have heard how level 1 characters are considered pretty worthless (I might be wrong about this I'm still pretty new to the D&D scene) but I still can't shake the fact that it's 2 level 1's on top of a character already level 3 and that feels to me broken.
Basically would me swapping to this character ruin combat if the DM has prepared stuff to be challenging for level threes and I rock up with a level 5 or due to the 3,1,1 would it not be that powerful compared to the others.
For reference the spells I picked out were. Cantrip Dancing Lights, Shape Water, Prestidigitation with the 1st level spell Disguise Self.
The DM has final decision on what characters are allowed in their campaign.
I suspect they won't allow you to simply swap from a level 3 to a level 5 character.
I've found over the years that I come up with lots of different character concepts, and want to immediately start playing with new ones. But sometimes it is best to explore the current character (at least until it gets to level 5 :) )
The DM has final decision on what characters are allowed in their campaign.
I suspect they won't allow you to simply swap from a level 3 to a level 5 character.
I've found over the years that I come up with lots of different character concepts, and want to immediately start playing with new ones. But sometimes it is best to explore the current character (at least until it gets to level 5 :) )
I'm guessing from your answer that a 3,1,1 character is equal to a straight level 5 then.
The power level of characters typically jumps quite high at level 5. Martial characters get Extra Attack - spellcasters get 3rd level spells. It's a big step. So turning up to a game with level 3 players with your level 5 character would crush.
Ask your DM first - certainly - but don't be surprised when the answer is no.
I'm currently playing in a campaign, we're about 5 sessions in now and while I love my current character, Aarakocra barbarian who's been cursed thus unable to fly. I recently came up with a new character design I'm pretty eager to play. The issue is that in the campaign our characters are all level 3 whereas the character I've made is level 5 (Level 3 fighter archetype Echo Knight with level 1 wizard and level 1 monk)
I hate the idea of bringing in a level 5 and totally crushing any combat encounters but at the same time if I were to remove any of his levels to bring him down to level 3 I can see myself easily getting frustrated with being unable to play the character how I would like (Mostly from a RP point of view)
On top of this I have heard how level 1 characters are considered pretty worthless (I might be wrong about this I'm still pretty new to the D&D scene) but I still can't shake the fact that it's 2 level 1's on top of a character already level 3 and that feels to me broken.
Basically would me swapping to this character ruin combat if the DM has prepared stuff to be challenging for level threes and I rock up with a level 5 or due to the 3,1,1 would it not be that powerful compared to the others.
For reference the spells I picked out were. Cantrip Dancing Lights, Shape Water, Prestidigitation with the 1st level spell Disguise Self.
I would recommend you play more D&D, a lot more, before going to your DM, with this idea. Once you grasp the difference between a level 3 and level 5, then you will cease this discussion.
Is it really that important to be an Echo Knight right now already, rather than just a Fighter? I just don't see how this is a thing, from a roleplay perspective. A level 1 Fighter can still be an Echo Knight in training, or a warrior with burgeoning powers that they can't quite manifest yet. If I could play a Ftr 1/Wiz 1/Mnk 1, I don't think that in terms of roleplay that wouldn't allow me to play the future Ftr 3/Wiz 1/Mnk 1 I might envision.
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Is it really that important to be an Echo Knight right now already, rather than just a Fighter? I just don't see how this is a thing, from a roleplay perspective. A level 1 Fighter can still be an Echo Knight in training, or a warrior with burgeoning powers that they can't quite manifest yet. If I could play a Ftr 1/Wiz 1/Mnk 1, I don't think that in terms of roleplay that wouldn't allow me to play the future Ftr 3/Wiz 1/Mnk 1 I might envision.
From the answers I've had here I've already changed the character to be 1-1-1 with the future plan to advance fighter so I can hopefully one day get Echo Knight.
From your answer and others I've sort of realised I got hung up on the idea of "I have to be an echo knight and now" rather then enjoy the process of looking forward to getting it (Going to have it that instead of him training to have it as soon as he hits level 3 in fighter he'll pretend he's always been able to manifest the Echo)
To add to what pangurjan said, though you may have had in your mind your character (and the RP involved) with him already being an Echo Knight its quite likely you will add depth to the character having levelled up from a lower level. I know characters can be visualised and campaigns can start at any level but in my experience both as a player and a DM the most interesting and enjoyable characters are ones that started low and grow into their abilities, its like you get to experience their early frustrations and how it develops them as a character.
A fighter-wizard-monk is a pretty crappy combination so the powerlevel (except for obvious things like HP and Profiency) isn't that far off. The obvious answer though has already been given, talk to your DM, not to us.
Okay, I have to ask... Echo Knight/Wizard/Monk is a pretty strange combination. Could I ask what your character concept is? You mentioned the unusual combination is mostly intended for RP reasons and I'm struggling to imagine what type of character backstory would need that specific combination of classes at such an early level.
Firstly thanks for reading.
I'm currently playing in a campaign, we're about 5 sessions in now and while I love my current character, Aarakocra barbarian who's been cursed thus unable to fly. I recently came up with a new character design I'm pretty eager to play. The issue is that in the campaign our characters are all level 3 whereas the character I've made is level 5 (Level 3 fighter archetype Echo Knight with level 1 wizard and level 1 monk)
I hate the idea of bringing in a level 5 and totally crushing any combat encounters but at the same time if I were to remove any of his levels to bring him down to level 3 I can see myself easily getting frustrated with being unable to play the character how I would like (Mostly from a RP point of view)
On top of this I have heard how level 1 characters are considered pretty worthless (I might be wrong about this I'm still pretty new to the D&D scene) but I still can't shake the fact that it's 2 level 1's on top of a character already level 3 and that feels to me broken.
Basically would me swapping to this character ruin combat if the DM has prepared stuff to be challenging for level threes and I rock up with a level 5 or due to the 3,1,1 would it not be that powerful compared to the others.
For reference the spells I picked out were. Cantrip Dancing Lights, Shape Water, Prestidigitation with the 1st level spell Disguise Self.
The DM has final decision on what characters are allowed in their campaign.
I suspect they won't allow you to simply swap from a level 3 to a level 5 character.
I've found over the years that I come up with lots of different character concepts, and want to immediately start playing with new ones. But sometimes it is best to explore the current character (at least until it gets to level 5 :) )
Bro, you can't just show up at a session with a new character out of the blue.
At least have the decency to talk to your DM first.
And no, hell no, you can't show up to a level 3 party with a level 5 character. If your DM is ok with that he must be tripping.
I might be new to D&D but I'm not an ******* who would do that.
That's why I made the post as I wanted to get people's advice before even asking my DM about it.
I'm guessing from your answer that a 3,1,1 character is equal to a straight level 5 then.
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The power level of characters typically jumps quite high at level 5. Martial characters get Extra Attack - spellcasters get 3rd level spells. It's a big step. So turning up to a game with level 3 players with your level 5 character would crush.
Ask your DM first - certainly - but don't be surprised when the answer is no.
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I would recommend you play more D&D, a lot more, before going to your DM, with this idea. Once you grasp the difference between a level 3 and level 5, then you will cease this discussion.
Is it really that important to be an Echo Knight right now already, rather than just a Fighter? I just don't see how this is a thing, from a roleplay perspective. A level 1 Fighter can still be an Echo Knight in training, or a warrior with burgeoning powers that they can't quite manifest yet. If I could play a Ftr 1/Wiz 1/Mnk 1, I don't think that in terms of roleplay that wouldn't allow me to play the future Ftr 3/Wiz 1/Mnk 1 I might envision.
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From the answers I've had here I've already changed the character to be 1-1-1 with the future plan to advance fighter so I can hopefully one day get Echo Knight.
From your answer and others I've sort of realised I got hung up on the idea of "I have to be an echo knight and now" rather then enjoy the process of looking forward to getting it (Going to have it that instead of him training to have it as soon as he hits level 3 in fighter he'll pretend he's always been able to manifest the Echo)
To add to what pangurjan said, though you may have had in your mind your character (and the RP involved) with him already being an Echo Knight its quite likely you will add depth to the character having levelled up from a lower level. I know characters can be visualised and campaigns can start at any level but in my experience both as a player and a DM the most interesting and enjoyable characters are ones that started low and grow into their abilities, its like you get to experience their early frustrations and how it develops them as a character.
A fighter-wizard-monk is a pretty crappy combination so the powerlevel (except for obvious things like HP and Profiency) isn't that far off. The obvious answer though has already been given, talk to your DM, not to us.
Okay, I have to ask... Echo Knight/Wizard/Monk is a pretty strange combination. Could I ask what your character concept is? You mentioned the unusual combination is mostly intended for RP reasons and I'm struggling to imagine what type of character backstory would need that specific combination of classes at such an early level.
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