Aside from mind shield, it also automatically and immediately captures the soul of the wearer when they die.
If you die while wearing the ring, your soul enters it, unless it already houses a soul. You can remain in the ring or depart for the afterlife.
Resurrection spells in dnd require that the soul both be FREE and willing. Upon death your soul would no longer be free. It is now captured by the ring. Yes you can choose to leave the ring and go to the afterlife at anytime. However the idea of revivify is that you "rez" the person before the soul departs and have to use formal resurrection magic to call them back from the after life.
It kinda feels to me that any character who dies with one of these rings cannot have revivfy used on them, as their soul is auotmatically captured (thus not free). As long as they are in the ring they cannot be revivfied (or rezed in any manner). Leaving to the afterlife means revivfy is no longer an option because their soul has departed the plane.
Resurrection spells in dnd require that the soul both be FREE and willing. Upon death your soul would no longer be free. It is now captured by the ring. Yes you can choose to leave the ring and go to the afterlife at anytime. However the idea of revivify is that you "rez" the person before the soul departs and have to use formal resurrection magic to call them back from the after life.
It kinda feels to me that any character who dies with one of these rings cannot have revivfy used on them, as their soul is auotmatically captured (thus not free). As long as they are in the ring they cannot be revivfied (or rezed in any manner). Leaving to the afterlife means revivfy is no longer an option because their soul has departed the plane.
Many such spells do have a requirement that the soul is free but Revivify does not so it should work just fine even for a character that has that ring.
You’ve introduced a different word “captured” and therefore changed the meaning. Just use the actual word, “enter,” and the problem goes away. Entering something is not the same as being captured by it. I enter my house every day, that doesn’t make me a prisoner there. Though sometimes it does feel like it.
Items and spells in D&D, like everything else, do what they say they do.
"If you die while wearing the ring, your soul enters it, unless it already houses a soul. You can remain in the ring or depart for the afterlife."
No where in the description of the item does it indicate that the soul is no longer free to be resurrected if it chooses to do so. The soul can choose to remain in the ring or depart for the afterlife, its choice.
In addition, resurrection spells use wording similar to Raise Dead:
"If the creature's soul is both willing and at liberty to rejoin the body, the creature returns to life with 1 hit point."
This requires the soul to be willing and at liberty to rejoin the body. Nothing in the description of the Ring of Mind Shielding indicates that the soul is no longer at "liberty" ... especially since the ring itself says the soul can depart for the afterlife whenever it likes. Also, the spell does not require the soul being restored to come from the afterlife or anywhere else in particular.
Finally, the wording of revivify actually places no constraints on the status of the soul whatsoever.
"You touch a creature that has died within the last minute. That creature returns to life with 1 hit point."
That's a fair point, but I'm curious what happens to the soul if it's in the Ring of Mind Shielding and Revivify gets cast on the body. As you said, Revivify doesn't say anything about the soul. Are there general rules somewhere else that say that a creature's soul rejoins the body when the body is brought back to life?
That's a fair point, but I'm curious what happens to the soul if it's in the Ring of Mind Shielding and Revivify gets cast on the body. As you said, Revivify doesn't say anything about the soul. Are there general rules somewhere else that say that a creature's soul rejoins the body when the body is brought back to life?
Not hard rules, but it's implicit that revival spells restore the character as they were in terms of mentally/psychologically/spiritually etc. There's no material for a case of Came Back Wrong.
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So looking at the green item - Ring of Mind Shielding
Aside from mind shield, it also automatically and immediately captures the soul of the wearer when they die.
Resurrection spells in dnd require that the soul both be FREE and willing. Upon death your soul would no longer be free. It is now captured by the ring. Yes you can choose to leave the ring and go to the afterlife at anytime. However the idea of revivify is that you "rez" the person before the soul departs and have to use formal resurrection magic to call them back from the after life.
It kinda feels to me that any character who dies with one of these rings cannot have revivfy used on them, as their soul is auotmatically captured (thus not free). As long as they are in the ring they cannot be revivfied (or rezed in any manner). Leaving to the afterlife means revivfy is no longer an option because their soul has departed the plane.
The item specifically states you can depart for the afterlife, which tells me you are free.
Many such spells do have a requirement that the soul is free but Revivify does not so it should work just fine even for a character that has that ring.
You’ve introduced a different word “captured” and therefore changed the meaning. Just use the actual word, “enter,” and the problem goes away.
Entering something is not the same as being captured by it. I enter my house every day, that doesn’t make me a prisoner there. Though sometimes it does feel like it.
I agree. Compare the ring's description to the language regarding getting trapped in the gem of a demilich, for instance.
Items and spells in D&D, like everything else, do what they say they do.
"If you die while wearing the ring, your soul enters it, unless it already houses a soul. You can remain in the ring or depart for the afterlife."
No where in the description of the item does it indicate that the soul is no longer free to be resurrected if it chooses to do so. The soul can choose to remain in the ring or depart for the afterlife, its choice.
In addition, resurrection spells use wording similar to Raise Dead:
"If the creature's soul is both willing and at liberty to rejoin the body, the creature returns to life with 1 hit point."
This requires the soul to be willing and at liberty to rejoin the body. Nothing in the description of the Ring of Mind Shielding indicates that the soul is no longer at "liberty" ... especially since the ring itself says the soul can depart for the afterlife whenever it likes. Also, the spell does not require the soul being restored to come from the afterlife or anywhere else in particular.
Finally, the wording of revivify actually places no constraints on the status of the soul whatsoever.
"You touch a creature that has died within the last minute. That creature returns to life with 1 hit point."
That's a fair point, but I'm curious what happens to the soul if it's in the Ring of Mind Shielding and Revivify gets cast on the body. As you said, Revivify doesn't say anything about the soul. Are there general rules somewhere else that say that a creature's soul rejoins the body when the body is brought back to life?
Not hard rules, but it's implicit that revival spells restore the character as they were in terms of mentally/psychologically/spiritually etc. There's no material for a case of Came Back Wrong.