It counts as a simple melee weapon with which you are proficient. It deals 2d8 psychic damage on a hit and has the finesse, light, and thrown properties (range 20/60).
Nothing more is said about the weapon's shape or type. Does it mean I get to decide when I conjure the weapon which shape I want it to take? Does it count as a Dagger (the only weapon that has all the aforementioned properties, besides the damage type)? Or do I simply not get any Mastery Property with it? Thanks in advance :)
You simply don't get mastery properties. Mastery properties are properties of weapons similar to finesse, light, and thrown. The definition of mastery properties tells you that the weapon has the property, which means a weapon without such a property doesn't have that property.
If you really want to spend one of your Weapon Masteries on a weapon you'll really only use for one minute, then summon again, I recommend Sap. It makes sense to me as the most generic sword (longsword) has that property, and it's not too strong.
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There is miles of difference between "it counts as a simple melee weapon" vs "it counts as a simple melee weapon of your choice".
It doesn't become your choice of... anything. It just IS a: Simple. Melee. Weapon. And you're proficient with it.
It is it's own thing.
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I believe that the only reason that the Shadow Blade doesn't have a weapon mastery in its description is because it was created with the 5e 2014 rules. Therefore, I think that it should have a weapon mastery just like any other weapon in 5e 2024 and since its properties resemble those of the dagger (finesse, light, and thrown) it should have the Nick property as its weapon mastery just like the dagger's.
Though soulknife is for a class that has weapon mastery. I don't think we yet know how they'll do it with spells for non-WM classes, even if they could be used by characters with WM.
I believe that the only reason that the Shadow Blade doesn't have a weapon mastery in its description is because it was created with the 5e 2014 rules.
If they had wanted a shadow blade to have a weapon mastery, they would have provided an updated 2024 version of the spell
They chose not to
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I believe that the only reason that the Shadow Blade doesn't have a weapon mastery in its description is because it was created with the 5e 2014 rules.
If they had wanted a shadow blade to have a weapon mastery, they would have provided an updated 2024 version of the spell
They chose not to
This is it right here — there were several other spells from Xanathar's Guide to Everything that were added to the new Player's Handbook, but this one wasn't. There's no reason to think that wasn't intentional.
The PHB doesn't need to contain every spell from every publication ever made. It only needs to hold those spells which were deemed most common or most liked/in demand from other publications. I believe we will need to wait for a new and revised version of Xanathar's Guide to Everything (if there will ever be new one) and only then we will be able to learn what (if any) revisions will be made to the Shadow Blade spell as well as others.
Shadow Blade's description says:
Nothing more is said about the weapon's shape or type. Does it mean I get to decide when I conjure the weapon which shape I want it to take? Does it count as a Dagger (the only weapon that has all the aforementioned properties, besides the damage type)? Or do I simply not get any Mastery Property with it?
Thanks in advance :)
You simply don't get mastery properties. Mastery properties are properties of weapons similar to finesse, light, and thrown. The definition of mastery properties tells you that the weapon has the property, which means a weapon without such a property doesn't have that property.
I agree with @WolfOfTheBees. Shadow Blade doesn't have any Mastery Property.
Not exactly the same, but the topic was also discussed here: Shadow Blade Dual Wielded Bladesinger - Rules & Game Mechanics
Yeah I think that's fair. Shadow Blade is busted enough as it is already anyway :)
If you really want to spend one of your Weapon Masteries on a weapon you'll really only use for one minute, then summon again, I recommend Sap. It makes sense to me as the most generic sword (longsword) has that property, and it's not too strong.
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There is miles of difference between "it counts as a simple melee weapon" vs "it counts as a simple melee weapon of your choice".
It doesn't become your choice of... anything. It just IS a: Simple. Melee. Weapon. And you're proficient with it.
It is it's own thing.
I'm probably laughing.
It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.
I believe that the only reason that the Shadow Blade doesn't have a weapon mastery in its description is because it was created with the 5e 2014 rules.
Therefore, I think that it should have a weapon mastery just like any other weapon in 5e 2024 and since its properties resemble those of the dagger (finesse, light, and thrown) it should have the Nick property as its weapon mastery just like the dagger's.
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ModeratorCompare to Soulknife's Psychic Blades, which also defines its own weapon but does assign a mastery property.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/2190883-rogue#Soulknife
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Though soulknife is for a class that has weapon mastery. I don't think we yet know how they'll do it with spells for non-WM classes, even if they could be used by characters with WM.
If they had wanted a shadow blade to have a weapon mastery, they would have provided an updated 2024 version of the spell
They chose not to
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This is it right here — there were several other spells from Xanathar's Guide to Everything that were added to the new Player's Handbook, but this one wasn't. There's no reason to think that wasn't intentional.
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The PHB doesn't need to contain every spell from every publication ever made. It only needs to hold those spells which were deemed most common or most liked/in demand from other publications.
I believe we will need to wait for a new and revised version of Xanathar's Guide to Everything (if there will ever be new one) and only then we will be able to learn what (if any) revisions will be made to the Shadow Blade spell as well as others.