I'm looking at the spell Programmed Illusion and it sounds really useful for a concert. If people already know that the concert is illusory, that could break it.
Is there any official material where it's suggested that a person recognizing an illusion as an illusion can choose to remain affected by it, or would that have to be a house rule?
Knowing that it is an illusion could break it in what way? It would still be visible to those who know it is an illusion. Knowing that TV shows aren't real doesn't really break them, does it?
Illusions usually have the condition that if someone uses an action to investigate the illusion, or they physically interact with it, the illusion will break, and anyone else observing it will also have the illusion break for them. This breaking means they can see through it, and sound from it will become hollow.
The investigate means learning that it's an illusion. Just by knowing it's an illusion, it will break.
So my question is whether someone, like an actual character, can choose to let the illusion persist for them.
Illusions don't necessarily break when discovered. The spells themselves usually have the information about what happens when it is seen through and Programmed Illusion is no different.
If a creature discerns the illusion for what it is, the creature can see through the image, and any noise it makes sounds hollow to the creature.
I'm looking at the spell Programmed Illusion and it sounds really useful for a concert. If people already know that the concert is illusory, that could break it.
Is there any official material where it's suggested that a person recognizing an illusion as an illusion can choose to remain affected by it, or would that have to be a house rule?
“performance check”
”deception check” when people ask if you’re okay and you lie.
Additionally to add to Emmber:
it says “the creature CAN see through it” can is a choice. So you could choose not to.
Again, it takes physical contact or investigation to break for an individual. And when one person recognizes the illusion, it doesn’t break for everyone else. So I think my initial response is still valid. As long as the audience suspends its disbelief (as in doesn’t investigate the show) you could expect that it might work for most.
Are you planning this as a DM? If that's the case then you can say it works normally regardless. Make it a special case spell designed specifically for that purpose if that's what you need.
It says CAN for sight, but not sound, and this question is specifically concerning the example of a concert, which is sound.
I suppose a player could use a deception save to deceive themself, but it would be best if they could avoid that altogether.
I think the opperative CAN is "A creature that uses its action to examine the image CAN (or presumably can not) determine that it is an illusion with a successful Intelligence (Investigation) check..."
Regardless, assuming a typical concert setting and that the programmed performance is not awful enough to engender thrown rotting fruit and vegetables, there shouldn't be any physical interaction with the "performers" and as WolfOfTheBees pointed out there's nothing that requires the audience to use their action to make an Intelligence check. So I think you're good.
I'm looking at the spell Programmed Illusion and it sounds really useful for a concert. If people already know that the concert is illusory, that could break it.
Is there any official material where it's suggested that a person recognizing an illusion as an illusion can choose to remain affected by it, or would that have to be a house rule?
Knowing that it is an illusion could break it in what way? It would still be visible to those who know it is an illusion. Knowing that TV shows aren't real doesn't really break them, does it?
Illusions usually have the condition that if someone uses an action to investigate the illusion, or they physically interact with it, the illusion will break, and anyone else observing it will also have the illusion break for them. This breaking means they can see through it, and sound from it will become hollow.
The investigate means learning that it's an illusion. Just by knowing it's an illusion, it will break.
So my question is whether someone, like an actual character, can choose to let the illusion persist for them.
Illusions don't necessarily break when discovered. The spells themselves usually have the information about what happens when it is seen through and Programmed Illusion is no different.
So yea it probably won't work for what you want.
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Highest 41: brocker2001 (#11,285).
Yahtzee of 2's: Emmber (#36,161).
Lowest 9: JoeltheWalrus (#312), Emmber (#12,505) and Dertinus (#20,953).
“performance check”
”deception check” when people ask if you’re okay and you lie.
Additionally to add to Emmber:
it says “the creature CAN see through it” can is a choice. So you could choose not to.
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Again, it takes physical contact or investigation to break for an individual. And when one person recognizes the illusion, it doesn’t break for everyone else. So I think my initial response is still valid. As long as the audience suspends its disbelief (as in doesn’t investigate the show) you could expect that it might work for most.
It says CAN for sight, but not sound, and this question is specifically concerning the example of a concert, which is sound.
I suppose a player could use a deception save to deceive themself, but it would be best if they could avoid that altogether.
Are you planning this as a DM? If that's the case then you can say it works normally regardless. Make it a special case spell designed specifically for that purpose if that's what you need.
Mega Yahtzee Thread:
Highest 41: brocker2001 (#11,285).
Yahtzee of 2's: Emmber (#36,161).
Lowest 9: JoeltheWalrus (#312), Emmber (#12,505) and Dertinus (#20,953).
No, this is just a general question as a player.
I think the opperative CAN is "A creature that uses its action to examine the image CAN (or presumably can not) determine that it is an illusion with a successful Intelligence (Investigation) check..."
Regardless, assuming a typical concert setting and that the programmed performance is not awful enough to engender thrown rotting fruit and vegetables, there shouldn't be any physical interaction with the "performers" and as WolfOfTheBees pointed out there's nothing that requires the audience to use their action to make an Intelligence check. So I think you're good.