I don't understand why you'd have to give something up in order to have a missing tool added to the overall toolbox. Bards are missing a key tool enjoyed by all full spellcasters. They don't need to lose anything to have that problem fixed.
Because increased choices is always a power boost. Even if a player can still only select the same number for their character to know, having a larger pool of options is a boon.
Anyway, the only full spellcaster who doesn't get ritual casting is the Sorcerer. Do you feel that's something they need? I've never heard anyone say that. (It would certainly make the Sorcerer more powerful, which I have heard it needs on occasion, but is that the right way to do it?) The only full spellcaster who doesn't get Light is the Druid. They've been excluded from the exploration pillar! Everyone should use the same tools! Restrictions breed creativity? Necessity is the mother of invention? Bah! :P
I don't see how greater variety in choice = power increase (nor do I agree that the Bards don't need a power increase in the first place). I believe the lack of solid damage dealing cantrips is a huge gap in the class and needs to be repaired.
I don't see why Sorcs shouldn't have ritual casting. That's a great point, and I didn't even realize it was a thing. Doesn't make a lot of sense that your Witch in the woods who has always had magic at their fingertips wouldn't access their powers ritually as well as instinctually.
But I think we can also agree that comparing the sorcerer's lack of ritual casting isn't really comparable to what we're talking about. Ritual casting, by definition, isn't a combat mechanic.
I don't see how greater variety in choice = power increase (nor do I agree that the Bards don't need a power increase in the first place). I believe the lack of solid damage dealing cantrips is a huge gap in the class and needs to be repaired.
I don't see why Sorcs shouldn't have ritual casting. That's a great point, and I didn't even realize it was a thing. Doesn't make a lot of sense that your Witch in the woods who has always had magic at their fingertips wouldn't access their powers ritually as well as instinctually.
But I think we can also agree that comparing the sorcerer's lack of ritual casting isn't really comparable to what we're talking about. Ritual casting, by definition, isn't a combat mechanic.
In a way I think it is comparable. Ritual casting saves the caster from having to spend a valuable resource (spell slots) from being expended. Whereas a more damaging cantrip would also save the caster from having to spend a valuable resource (spell slots) to crank out more damage.
Right, but you're way more likely to cast several instances of Fire Bolt than you are to sit for 10 minutes to cast Comprehend Languages a bunch of times. both save resources, but direct damage cantrips save *way* more in a typical session that includes a normal amount of combat.
Technically all Bard's have to do is expend an ASI to get the Magic Initiate (Sorcerer) feat to get two damage cantrips (Chill Touch and Shocking Grasp?) plus a level 1 Sorcerer spell (Mage Armor?) that key off the charisma stat that they're using for everything anyway.
Just as Sorcerers just need 13 Wisdom and an ASI to get the Ritual Caster feat for ritual casting.
That said only Pact of the Tome Warlocks with the Book of Ancient Secrets invocation get ritual casting in the Warlock archtype.
Hello, I am planning to create a bard that is why I am gathering tips, Can you please give me some tips for new create bard char.
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Hello, I am planning to create a bard that is why I am gathering tips, Can you please give me some tips for new create bard char.
The Player's Handbook's advice on this subject is good. Also: Make sure, if your DM cares about this, to buy spell components when possible. Bards can learn a lot of spells that consume or otherwise require costly spell components. You don't want to be stuck with a spell that you can't actually cast.
Of course, Charisma is your top stat. You may well want to make Dex your second best stat. I use a wooden flute as my spell casting focus even though I carry a lute in town for RP reasons. The flute is handier for using in a tight situation. Talk to the other players about what you intend to do to help them in combat. If you go Lore Bard, as I did, Cutting Words is an incredible use of your Bardic Inspiration. Also, assuming your DM is OK with taking a short rest about every meal, remember to use Song of Rest and get your party to understand how that works.
I think playing a bard is great fun.
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Because increased choices is always a power boost. Even if a player can still only select the same number for their character to know, having a larger pool of options is a boon.
Anyway, the only full spellcaster who doesn't get ritual casting is the Sorcerer. Do you feel that's something they need? I've never heard anyone say that. (It would certainly make the Sorcerer more powerful, which I have heard it needs on occasion, but is that the right way to do it?) The only full spellcaster who doesn't get Light is the Druid. They've been excluded from the exploration pillar! Everyone should use the same tools! Restrictions breed creativity? Necessity is the mother of invention? Bah! :P
I don't see how greater variety in choice = power increase (nor do I agree that the Bards don't need a power increase in the first place). I believe the lack of solid damage dealing cantrips is a huge gap in the class and needs to be repaired.
I don't see why Sorcs shouldn't have ritual casting. That's a great point, and I didn't even realize it was a thing. Doesn't make a lot of sense that your Witch in the woods who has always had magic at their fingertips wouldn't access their powers ritually as well as instinctually.
But I think we can also agree that comparing the sorcerer's lack of ritual casting isn't really comparable to what we're talking about. Ritual casting, by definition, isn't a combat mechanic.
In a way I think it is comparable. Ritual casting saves the caster from having to spend a valuable resource (spell slots) from being expended. Whereas a more damaging cantrip would also save the caster from having to spend a valuable resource (spell slots) to crank out more damage.
In both instances its about preserving resources.
Right, but you're way more likely to cast several instances of Fire Bolt than you are to sit for 10 minutes to cast Comprehend Languages a bunch of times. both save resources, but direct damage cantrips save *way* more in a typical session that includes a normal amount of combat.
Technically all Bard's have to do is expend an ASI to get the Magic Initiate (Sorcerer) feat to get two damage cantrips (Chill Touch and Shocking Grasp?) plus a level 1 Sorcerer spell (Mage Armor?) that key off the charisma stat that they're using for everything anyway.
Just as Sorcerers just need 13 Wisdom and an ASI to get the Ritual Caster feat for ritual casting.
That said only Pact of the Tome Warlocks with the Book of Ancient Secrets invocation get ritual casting in the Warlock archtype.
Hello, I am planning to create a bard that is why I am gathering tips, Can you please give me some tips for new create bard char.
I really love playing online games even though I'm a girl.
I have been playing games for most of my life. I think it is because video games are really fun to play. It doesn't matter what you are playing, they are all fun to play!
The Player's Handbook's advice on this subject is good. Also: Make sure, if your DM cares about this, to buy spell components when possible. Bards can learn a lot of spells that consume or otherwise require costly spell components. You don't want to be stuck with a spell that you can't actually cast.
Of course, Charisma is your top stat. You may well want to make Dex your second best stat. I use a wooden flute as my spell casting focus even though I carry a lute in town for RP reasons. The flute is handier for using in a tight situation. Talk to the other players about what you intend to do to help them in combat. If you go Lore Bard, as I did, Cutting Words is an incredible use of your Bardic Inspiration. Also, assuming your DM is OK with taking a short rest about every meal, remember to use Song of Rest and get your party to understand how that works.
I think playing a bard is great fun.
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