So something recently came up - my UA Beast Conclave Ranger has humanoids as a favored enemy and giants as a greater favored enemy.
Now reading the rules....
Favored Enemy Beginning at 1st level, you have significant experience studying, tracking, hunting, and even talking to a certain type of enemy commonly encountered in the wilds. Choose a type of favored enemy: beasts, fey, humanoids, monstrosities, or undead. You gain a +2 bonus to damage rolls with weapon attacks against creatures of the chosen type. Additionally, you have advantage on Wisdom (Survival) checks to track your favored enemies, as well as on Intelligence checks to recall information about them. When you gain this feature, you also learn one language of your choice, typically one spoken by your favored enemy or creatures associated with it. However, you are free to pick any language you wish to learn.
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Greater Favored Enemy At 6th level, you are ready to hunt even deadlier game. Choose a type of greater favored enemy: aberrations, celestials, constructs, dragons, elementals, fiends, or giants. You gain all the benefits against this chosen enemy that you normally gain against your favored enemy, including an additional language. Your bonus to damage rolls against all your favored enemies increases to +4. Additionally, you have advantage on saving throws against the spells and abilities used by a greater favored enemy.
The question comes with the bit about advantage on saving throws - as I read the rules that only applies to spells and abilities my greater favored enemy (giants) uses not also my favored enemies (humanoids) correct?
I know the damage increases vs both but seems that maybe if I spent that much time dedicating myself to learning about my enemies the advantage would work on both too?
They seem to be separated from one another. If you choose two different types of creature, greater favored enemy seem not to grant those benefit for the type you choose for favored enemy.
And can you choose a creature from the Favored Enemy list for your Greater Favored Enemy?
Technically, no, but how unbalanced would it be to choose Undead as my GFE because humanoids, beasts, and undead are the only things my ranger has ever fought? (And there was only one beast, and I already have humanoids as my ordinary Favored Enemy.)
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As written it does look like the lists are exhaustive, that said I wouldn't be surprised if a DM allowed you to take undead as a greater Favored enemy if you haven't taken it as a favored. at level 1 its really skeletons and zombies. by L6 your starting to face ghouls, ghasts, ghosts, bansees etc and at higher levels Vampires and Lichs so you could make a case for taking it as a greater.
In my Games I alter the levels and number of favored enemies: L1, L5, L10, L15, using regular and greater you would get regular at L1 & 5 and Greater at L10 &15 but thats just my world.
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So something recently came up - my UA Beast Conclave Ranger has humanoids as a favored enemy and giants as a greater favored enemy.
Now reading the rules....
Favored Enemy
Beginning at 1st level, you have significant experience studying, tracking, hunting, and even talking to a certain type of enemy commonly encountered in the wilds. Choose a type of favored enemy: beasts, fey, humanoids, monstrosities, or undead. You gain a +2 bonus to damage rolls with weapon attacks against creatures of the chosen type. Additionally, you have advantage on Wisdom (Survival) checks to track your favored enemies, as well as on Intelligence checks to recall information about them. When you gain this feature, you also learn one language of your choice, typically one spoken by your favored enemy or creatures associated with it. However, you are free to pick any language you wish to learn.
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Greater Favored Enemy
At 6th level, you are ready to hunt even deadlier game. Choose a type of greater favored enemy: aberrations, celestials, constructs, dragons, elementals, fiends, or giants. You gain all the benefits against this chosen enemy that you normally gain against your favored enemy, including an additional language. Your bonus to damage rolls against all your favored enemies increases to +4. Additionally, you have advantage on saving throws against the spells and abilities used by a greater favored enemy.
The question comes with the bit about advantage on saving throws - as I read the rules that only applies to spells and abilities my greater favored enemy (giants) uses not also my favored enemies (humanoids) correct?
I know the damage increases vs both but seems that maybe if I spent that much time dedicating myself to learning about my enemies the advantage would work on both too?
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They seem to be separated from one another. If you choose two different types of creature, greater favored enemy seem not to grant those benefit for the type you choose for favored enemy.
And can you choose a creature from the Favored Enemy list for your Greater Favored Enemy?
Technically, no, but how unbalanced would it be to choose Undead as my GFE because humanoids, beasts, and undead are the only things my ranger has ever fought? (And there was only one beast, and I already have humanoids as my ordinary Favored Enemy.)
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" -- allegedly Benjamin Franklin
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(And I picked Giants because we're playing Storm King's hehe)
Skameros - Bugbear Barbarian - Out of the Abyss - By Kerrec
Follow your Arrow where it Points - Tabaxi Monk - Baldur's Gate: Descent Into Avernus (by Pokepaladdy)
Citron Pumpkinfoam - Fairy Monk - Project Point: Team Longsword
Well, as writtem, there is no such list restriction for the Greater favoured enemy.
Looks like it's intended to be an exhaustive list to me.
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I just realized this probably should have been in the UA forum not the Ranger one....
*shrug*
And Favored Enemy also has a specific list too
Choose a type of favored enemy: beasts, fey, humanoids, monstrosities, or undead.
Skameros - Bugbear Barbarian - Out of the Abyss - By Kerrec
Follow your Arrow where it Points - Tabaxi Monk - Baldur's Gate: Descent Into Avernus (by Pokepaladdy)
Citron Pumpkinfoam - Fairy Monk - Project Point: Team Longsword
As written it does look like the lists are exhaustive, that said I wouldn't be surprised if a DM allowed you to take undead as a greater Favored enemy if you haven't taken it as a favored. at level 1 its really skeletons and zombies. by L6 your starting to face ghouls, ghasts, ghosts, bansees etc and at higher levels Vampires and Lichs so you could make a case for taking it as a greater.
In my Games I alter the levels and number of favored enemies: L1, L5, L10, L15, using regular and greater you would get regular at L1 & 5 and Greater at L10 &15 but thats just my world.
Wisea$$ DM and Player since 1979.