Yeah, not willing to pay $60 for a book I already own. The whole D&D Beyond thing is such a fricking money grab. Forget that.
Not for nothing, but the online copy can be purchased for 30 bucks... kinda wish we could enter a serial number or a proof of purchase code to prove we bought said book, and then unlock the DDB stuff for like.. 5 bucks.
And to the admins or pro-hasbro person out there who'd say "well anyone can go to a book store, copy the code and then say they purchased it and didn't, and we're out 45 bucks" No.. you aren't shortchanged 45 bucks, you'd make 5 bucks. People who wouldn't pay full price for a book aren't ever going ot pay full price for a book, but you might get them to pay 5 bucks to unlock content. There's tons of ways to get around the cost, here's a helpful hint: FIRE YOUR COPYRIGHT LAWYERS, THEY ARE PAID TOO MUCH FOR RUINING THE FUN. less lawyer fees = more profits (also more risk but the risk/reward ratio was always lower before they got all up in any industry and invented the problems they sold you the fix for).
Yeah, not willing to pay $60 for a book I already own. The whole D&D Beyond thing is such a fricking money grab. Forget that.
Not for nothing, but the online copy can be purchased for 30 bucks... kinda wish we could enter a serial number or a proof of purchase code to prove we bought said book, and then unlock the DDB stuff for like.. 5 bucks.
And to the admins or pro-hasbro person out there who'd say "well anyone can go to a book store, copy the code and then say they purchased it and didn't, and we're out 45 bucks" No.. you aren't shortchanged 45 bucks, you'd make 5 bucks. People who wouldn't pay full price for a book aren't ever going ot pay full price for a book, but you might get them to pay 5 bucks to unlock content. There's tons of ways to get around the cost, here's a helpful hint: FIRE YOUR COPYRIGHT LAWYERS, THEY ARE PAID TOO MUCH FOR RUINING THE FUN. less lawyer fees = more profits (also more risk but the risk/reward ratio was always lower before they got all up in any industry and invented the problems they sold you the fix for).
There's a lot of other factors involved in your suggestion and it is not even remotely as simple as you think. Also, the post you're replying to is wanting this as a "retroactive" unlock which is not going to ever be possible.
As for people wanting to get physical and digital together - this is already possible. You can go to the marketplace, order physical and digital together and the digital will be discounted down to $10.
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I found this thread while looking for help. I need to know if I have to buy Tasha for the Artificer. I have Eberron already.
I bought Eberron : Rising from the Last War digitallly. I do not have Tasha's, but my Start Playing GM does.
In my character creator the Artificier is listed as belonging to Tasha. Is that because I don't have it through Eberron and I'm getting it through my GM, or do I own it but somehow its being attributed to Tasha's?
I found this thread while looking for help. I need to know if I have to buy Tasha for the Artificer. I have Eberron already.
I bought Eberron : Rising from the Last War digitallly. I do not have Tasha's, but my Start Playing GM does.
In my character creator the Artificier is listed as belonging to Tasha. Is that because I don't have it through Eberron and I'm getting it through my GM, or do I own it but somehow its being attributed to Tasha's?
I believe it says that as the source for the Artificer class because Tasha's Cauldron of Everything included a slightly updated version with a few changes and a new subclass that wasn't in the Eberron book. But regardless of which book you own you should be able to use the latest version in the character builder.
I have the physical version of Tasha's Cauldron of Everything and I was wondering if you could enter a QR code or serial number or something to get the artificer? Is that possible, or am I dreaming?
I have the physical version of Tasha's Cauldron of Everything and I was wondering if you could enter a QR code or serial number or something to get the artificer? Is that possible, or am I dreaming?
Unfortunately D&D Beyond doesn't have anything like that. To use character options in the D&D Beyond online tools, you have to purchase the D&D Beyond digital version of the relevant book(s), or have access to them through content sharing in an online campaign.
Yeah, not willing to pay $60 for a book I already own. The whole D&D Beyond thing is such a fricking money grab. Forget that.
This is so damn stupid
As has been said before (probably even on this thread) the physical books and D&D Beyond are two separate products. If you bought a physical book on Amazon you don't get the Kindle and audio book for free, same deal here
You should get a qr- code with every book you buy to get acces digitally.
A 1-time use serial code would make more sense.
Would hinder 2nd-hand sales too.
But just a QR Code and you're going to quickly find every QR Code scanned and uploaded online.
Same problem with serial codes- you’d get people flipping through the books if they’re open or pulling the plastic covers off, taking a picture of the number, and getting a free book while either the purchasers losing out or the vendor having to write off the books. The only particularly secure option would be for the code to generate at the PoS, but realistically trying to implement that would be way more work and expense than it’s worth for WotC- and yes, this is a disposable income product, they’re allowed to say “we’re not doing something because we’d lose money on it”.
That is a very fair argument but if we paid $40+ we should get some sort of code on our receipt, online or in person it doesn't require much energy and only a little more code on the website or in the barcode... or is this also unfeasible?
That is a very fair argument but if we paid $40+ we should get some sort of code on our receipt, online or in person it doesn't require much energy and only a little more code on the website or in the barcode... or is this also unfeasible?
This would require every seller, physical and online, to use a specialised till or e-merchant system just for D&D books. That is not feasible.
Even if implemented it would not be "a little more code" and is a lot more complex than you think.
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The book's MSRP is for the book itself, not any other things not in the book, such as online character generators. It's not like you need access to DDB in order to use the physical copy of the book.
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"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
That is a very fair argument but if we paid $40+ we should get some sort of code on our receipt, online or in person it doesn't require much energy and only a little more code on the website or in the barcode... or is this also unfeasible?
Honestly, the only thing that talks is $$$. If you want WotC to be giving digital copies complementary with the physical purchases, you have to show them that's where the $$$ are at. They're not going to walk away from being able to charge for content twice - once for the book, and once for the digital - otherwise.
Google Bricks and Mortar. That will tell you where there are stores that's part of that program and what games are. If you buy a book from those stores that qualifies, then you'll get the digital copy for free. It's a program intended to help LGSs stay viable by not restricting the electronic freebies to just direct-to-publishers purchases only. An example of a participating publisher is Free League (who does Alien, Walking Dead, Lord of the Rings Roleplaying (5e), The One Ring, and others.
Another publisher is Modiphius (they do Star Trek Adventures, Fallout, Conan, Discworld and others). They'll give you a PDF for free so long as you can prove you have the game. That's handled internally so you don't have to worry about the shop being part of Bricks and Mortar. If you don't buy direct, just email a picture of your receipt or something that proves you actually have the game with a note saying you'd like the PDF and you'll get it.
If you want WotC to give the electronic versions with purchases, they can do it, but you have to show them that's where the money is. They're not going to do it just for asking - they're a big company with profits close to their hearts after all.
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Print media is a dying industry. Digital is going to phase it out. Like streaming did to dvds/cds. That’s probably why they phased out ala cart purchase for characters. The quantity of print books are going to be limited (my guess would be 6th edition) which means $$$ going to go up, but drop the cost of digital to have more purchases. That would make them very profitable, especially if they continue with VTT or outsourcing it to a 3rd party venture (which would auto require digital copies). Then share profits of VTT ( that they will charge as subscription. Welcome to capitalism. The rich keep getting rich and we play along
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Not for nothing, but the online copy can be purchased for 30 bucks...
kinda wish we could enter a serial number or a proof of purchase code to prove we bought said book, and then unlock the DDB stuff for like.. 5 bucks.
And to the admins or pro-hasbro person out there who'd say "well anyone can go to a book store, copy the code and then say they purchased it and didn't, and we're out 45 bucks"
No.. you aren't shortchanged 45 bucks, you'd make 5 bucks. People who wouldn't pay full price for a book aren't ever going ot pay full price for a book, but you might get them to pay 5 bucks to unlock content. There's tons of ways to get around the cost, here's a helpful hint: FIRE YOUR COPYRIGHT LAWYERS, THEY ARE PAID TOO MUCH FOR RUINING THE FUN. less lawyer fees = more profits (also more risk but the risk/reward ratio was always lower before they got all up in any industry and invented the problems they sold you the fix for).
There's a lot of other factors involved in your suggestion and it is not even remotely as simple as you think. Also, the post you're replying to is wanting this as a "retroactive" unlock which is not going to ever be possible.
As for people wanting to get physical and digital together - this is already possible. You can go to the marketplace, order physical and digital together and the digital will be discounted down to $10.
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
I found this thread while looking for help. I need to know if I have to buy Tasha for the Artificer. I have Eberron already.
I bought Eberron : Rising from the Last War digitallly. I do not have Tasha's, but my Start Playing GM does.
In my character creator the Artificier is listed as belonging to Tasha. Is that because I don't have it through Eberron and I'm getting it through my GM, or do I own it but somehow its being attributed to Tasha's?
I believe it says that as the source for the Artificer class because Tasha's Cauldron of Everything included a slightly updated version with a few changes and a new subclass that wasn't in the Eberron book. But regardless of which book you own you should be able to use the latest version in the character builder.
pronouns: he/she/they
Thank you for explaining that. I'm new to DnD, so I appreciate it.
I have the physical version of Tasha's Cauldron of Everything and I was wondering if you could enter a QR code or serial number or something to get the artificer? Is that possible, or am I dreaming?
Reed Thorngage
Unfortunately D&D Beyond doesn't have anything like that. To use character options in the D&D Beyond online tools, you have to purchase the D&D Beyond digital version of the relevant book(s), or have access to them through content sharing in an online campaign.
pronouns: he/she/they
This is so damn stupid
Reed Thorngage
As has been said before (probably even on this thread) the physical books and D&D Beyond are two separate products. If you bought a physical book on Amazon you don't get the Kindle and audio book for free, same deal here
You should get a qr- code with every book you buy to get acces digitally.
A 1-time use serial code would make more sense.
Would hinder 2nd-hand sales too.
But just a QR Code and you're going to quickly find every QR Code scanned and uploaded online.
Same problem with serial codes- you’d get people flipping through the books if they’re open or pulling the plastic covers off, taking a picture of the number, and getting a free book while either the purchasers losing out or the vendor having to write off the books. The only particularly secure option would be for the code to generate at the PoS, but realistically trying to implement that would be way more work and expense than it’s worth for WotC- and yes, this is a disposable income product, they’re allowed to say “we’re not doing something because we’d lose money on it”.
That is a very fair argument but if we paid $40+ we should get some sort of code on our receipt, online or in person it doesn't require much energy and only a little more code on the website or in the barcode... or is this also unfeasible?
Reed Thorngage
This would require every seller, physical and online, to use a specialised till or e-merchant system just for D&D books. That is not feasible.
Even if implemented it would not be "a little more code" and is a lot more complex than you think.
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
The book's MSRP is for the book itself, not any other things not in the book, such as online character generators. It's not like you need access to DDB in order to use the physical copy of the book.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Honestly, the only thing that talks is $$$. If you want WotC to be giving digital copies complementary with the physical purchases, you have to show them that's where the $$$ are at. They're not going to walk away from being able to charge for content twice - once for the book, and once for the digital - otherwise.
Google Bricks and Mortar. That will tell you where there are stores that's part of that program and what games are. If you buy a book from those stores that qualifies, then you'll get the digital copy for free. It's a program intended to help LGSs stay viable by not restricting the electronic freebies to just direct-to-publishers purchases only. An example of a participating publisher is Free League (who does Alien, Walking Dead, Lord of the Rings Roleplaying (5e), The One Ring, and others.
Another publisher is Modiphius (they do Star Trek Adventures, Fallout, Conan, Discworld and others). They'll give you a PDF for free so long as you can prove you have the game. That's handled internally so you don't have to worry about the shop being part of Bricks and Mortar. If you don't buy direct, just email a picture of your receipt or something that proves you actually have the game with a note saying you'd like the PDF and you'll get it.
If you want WotC to give the electronic versions with purchases, they can do it, but you have to show them that's where the money is. They're not going to do it just for asking - they're a big company with profits close to their hearts after all.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
Print media is a dying industry. Digital is going to phase it out. Like streaming did to dvds/cds. That’s probably why they phased out ala cart purchase for characters. The quantity of print books are going to be limited (my guess would be 6th edition) which means $$$ going to go up, but drop the cost of digital to have more purchases. That would make them very profitable, especially if they continue with VTT or outsourcing it to a 3rd party venture (which would auto require digital copies). Then share profits of VTT ( that they will charge as subscription. Welcome to capitalism. The rich keep getting rich and we play along