I don't think anyone expects them to have a sale constantly. But I'm sure a lot of people like me in the US just got a stimulus check recently that might they might want to put towards books on DND beyond. I bought Storm King's Thunder to run it with friends, but if the Legendary bundle was on sale I'd probably end up buying that as well instead of all the video games I've been buying on sale.
Do they need to put it on sale? No. Do I expect them to? No. But I'm not rich enough to burn $170 in potential discounts I could've gotten if I'd waited for it to go on sale. So I'll wait. If they want my money they need to convince me either they won't put a coupon out ever or by putting a coupon code for it now
I've looked into D&D Beyond as a temporary alternative during quarantine, but found that "free" characters cannot even use the basic subclasses or feats found in the Player's Handbook without repurchasing it for this platform (as I already have a number of physical copies of different sourcebooks). I've had to insert some of these options by hand as "homebrew" content.
My hesitation to adopt this tool stems entirely from the seeming lack of respect for customers who have already paid large amounts of money to support WotC and Fifth Edition. Even just the basic options from the Player's Handbook, the bare essentials, are kept behind an additional paywall.
So, I am awaiting further coupon codes, that I might consider investing in this system, perhaps even just beginning with the Player's Handbook. Though if quarantine passes without any type of discount, there won't be any reason to continue attempting to utilize D&D Beyond.
It's not that simple. This site is not run by WoTC. To grant you access to the publications the site owners have to pay the licensing fees to WoTC. So granting you access means it costs their business money as does managing and maintaining your accounts. If you want to be upset, the right folks to pressure is WoTC to grant you a portable license for the books you buy.
I've looked into D&D Beyond as a temporary alternative during quarantine, but found that "free" characters cannot even use the basic subclasses or feats found in the Player's Handbook without repurchasing it for this platform (as I already have a number of physical copies of different sourcebooks). I've had to insert some of these options by hand as "homebrew" content.
My hesitation to adopt this tool stems entirely from the seeming lack of respect for customers who have already paid large amounts of money to support WotC and Fifth Edition. Even just the basic options from the Player's Handbook, the bare essentials, are kept behind an additional paywall.
So, I am awaiting further coupon codes, that I might consider investing in this system, perhaps even just beginning with the Player's Handbook. Though if quarantine passes without any type of discount, there won't be any reason to continue attempting to utilize D&D Beyond.
Buying a physical product does not entitle the customer to a digital product, unless the seller has explicitly said so. I have all of Taylor Swift's albums, but that does not entitle me to download her songs off of Google nor Amazon. I have all seven Harry Potter books and all the released A Song of Ice and Fire books, but that does not entitle me to download those books for free either. I have not seen anyone complain about buying a physical copy of Pokémon and then complain about Nintendo would not let them download the same game from Nintendo's eShop. I have never seen confusion elsewhere regarding the distinction of physical and digital products, so I am not sure why there is so much confusion regarding the distinction between physical and digital D&D products.
It would be no different if your employer assigned you and your coworker to do the same job but for different clients, but then they decide to only pay your coworker for their work but not you for your work, since they reason that they do not need to pay twice for the same job.
If Wizards of the Coast should be compensated for designing and manufacturing D&D books, then D&D Beyond should also be compensated for digitizing those books and developing all the other associated services on the site too. Even if Wizards and Beyond are the same company, digitizing books still costs additional money that is seperate from the manufacturing costs of the physical books, and they are still two separate and distinct products and Wizards is under no obligation to bundle them together.
I've looked into D&D Beyond as a temporary alternative during quarantine, but found that "free" characters cannot even use the basic subclasses or feats found in the Player's Handbook without repurchasing it for this platform (as I already have a number of physical copies of different sourcebooks). I've had to insert some of these options by hand as "homebrew" content.
My hesitation to adopt this tool stems entirely from the seeming lack of respect for customers who have already paid large amounts of money to support WotC and Fifth Edition. Even just the basic options from the Player's Handbook, the bare essentials, are kept behind an additional paywall.
So, I am awaiting further coupon codes, that I might consider investing in this system, perhaps even just beginning with the Player's Handbook. Though if quarantine passes without any type of discount, there won't be any reason to continue attempting to utilize D&D Beyond.
Read through the last pages of this thread in the hope for some codes, but all I found was whining and some good souls who put the whiners in their places.
Justice was served, now we just need those discount codes ...
You do realize that even if there were any active such codes, posting them here would be essentially lowering their prices for everyone.
Beyond has already stated that they announce all new coupon codes on their front page. Check the last post by a moderator, about one page back.
Right, but that does not mean any such codes would be unlimited use, would be unlimited duration or would always be provided, with no cut off dates or other limits. When any given company runs a promotion campaign it is quite normal for them to do so as publicly as they can afford. It is a promotion campaign after all. That does not in any way obligate them to run any such campaign.
Sorry, but I didn't understand that point as I didn't notice you specify that you were referring to the idea of having a sale constantly. To be honest, I feel that's a strawman argument. Everyone here understands the difference between a price drop and a sale, and there aren't many here actually asking for a price drop. Everyone asking for a sale is well aware that they are asking for a sale and just are letting the company know they would purchase if there was one. That's all. It's actually helpful to Beyond to know about these customers, and I feel that discouraging this by complaining or shaming people is actually not advantageous to the company. People should be free to express a desire in the first place (as are you for sharing your opinions here, of course, I'm just encouraging some considerations here), and it is useful to the company to know both customer opinions and the level of desire and likely customers waiting for one of their regular sales.
Unfortunately this has a lot less value to someone that runs in their own settings (that'd be me!). It is pretty nifty if you're looking to run pre-made campaigns though! And yes, I know, "Why get Legendary then?" I'm a bit of a collector, there ARE a few more generic things in most of the books, and there's a chance I might get lazy and run a pre-fab someday. Fairly low chance, but it's there.
I guess it depends on the perspective of which customer you are.
Pardon if this wasn't clear in my post. That's exactly my point. ^_^
I've looked into D&D Beyond as a temporary alternative during quarantine, but found that "free" characters cannot even use the basic subclasses or feats found in the Player's Handbook without repurchasing it for this platform (as I already have a number of physical copies of different sourcebooks). I've had to insert some of these options by hand as "homebrew" content.
My hesitation to adopt this tool stems entirely from the seeming lack of respect for customers who have already paid large amounts of money to support WotC and Fifth Edition. Even just the basic options from the Player's Handbook, the bare essentials, are kept behind an additional paywall.
So, I am awaiting further coupon codes, that I might consider investing in this system, perhaps even just beginning with the Player's Handbook. Though if quarantine passes without any type of discount, there won't be any reason to continue attempting to utilize D&D Beyond.
Buying a physical product does not entitle the customer to a digital product, unless the seller has explicitly said so. I have all of Taylor Swift's albums, but that does not entitle me to download her songs off of Google nor Amazon. I have all seven Harry Potter books and all the released A Song of Ice and Fire books, but that does not entitle me to download those books for free either. I have not seen anyone complain about buying a physical copy of Pokémon and then complain about Nintendo would not let them download the same game from Nintendo's eShop. I have never seen confusion elsewhere regarding the distinction of physical and digital products, so I am not sure why there is so much confusion regarding the distinction between physical and digital D&D products.
It would be no different if your employer assigned you and your coworker to do the same job but for different clients, but then they decide to only pay your coworker for their work but not you for your work, since they reason that they do not need to pay twice for the same job.
If Wizards of the Coast should be compensated for designing and manufacturing D&D books, then D&D Beyond should also be compensated for digitizing those books and developing all the other associated services on the site too. Even if Wizards and Beyond are the same company, digitizing books still costs additional money that is seperate from the manufacturing costs of the physical books, and they are still two separate and distinct products and Wizards is under no obligation to bundle them together.
EA's origin store does this for video games though. You can just enter the serial code of a decade old DVD and it'll add it to your digital library, available to download.
I've looked into D&D Beyond as a temporary alternative during quarantine, but found that "free" characters cannot even use the basic subclasses or feats found in the Player's Handbook without repurchasing it for this platform (as I already have a number of physical copies of different sourcebooks). I've had to insert some of these options by hand as "homebrew" content.
My hesitation to adopt this tool stems entirely from the seeming lack of respect for customers who have already paid large amounts of money to support WotC and Fifth Edition. Even just the basic options from the Player's Handbook, the bare essentials, are kept behind an additional paywall.
So, I am awaiting further coupon codes, that I might consider investing in this system, perhaps even just beginning with the Player's Handbook. Though if quarantine passes without any type of discount, there won't be any reason to continue attempting to utilize D&D Beyond.
Buying a physical product does not entitle the customer to a digital product, unless the seller has explicitly said so. I have all of Taylor Swift's albums, but that does not entitle me to download her songs off of Google nor Amazon. I have all seven Harry Potter books and all the released A Song of Ice and Fire books, but that does not entitle me to download those books for free either. I have not seen anyone complain about buying a physical copy of Pokémon and then complain about Nintendo would not let them download the same game from Nintendo's eShop. I have never seen confusion elsewhere regarding the distinction of physical and digital products, so I am not sure why there is so much confusion regarding the distinction between physical and digital D&D products.
It would be no different if your employer assigned you and your coworker to do the same job but for different clients, but then they decide to only pay your coworker for their work but not you for your work, since they reason that they do not need to pay twice for the same job.
If Wizards of the Coast should be compensated for designing and manufacturing D&D books, then D&D Beyond should also be compensated for digitizing those books and developing all the other associated services on the site too. Even if Wizards and Beyond are the same company, digitizing books still costs additional money that is seperate from the manufacturing costs of the physical books, and they are still two separate and distinct products and Wizards is under no obligation to bundle them together.
EA's origin store does this for video games though. You can just enter the serial code of a decade old DVD and it'll add it to your digital library, available to download.
And that is not the norm. Most companies do not bundle physical and digital product together outside of special promotions, and the vast majority of people do not expect physical and digital products to come bundled together either.
If it isn't about a current coupon code, don't post it. It is off topic.
On page 73, a mod said they are opening up the thread to allow discussion that is not strictly just posting coupon codes. And for people do not want to keep getting thread notifications, the mod said they will keep posting any new coupon codes on the front page of the site and update their social media as usual.
I don't think anyone expects them to have a sale constantly. But I'm sure a lot of people like me in the US just got a stimulus check recently that might they might want to put towards books on DND beyond. I bought Storm King's Thunder to run it with friends, but if the Legendary bundle was on sale I'd probably end up buying that as well instead of all the video games I've been buying on sale.
Do they need to put it on sale? No. Do I expect them to? No. But I'm not rich enough to burn $170 in potential discounts I could've gotten if I'd waited for it to go on sale. So I'll wait. If they want my money they need to convince me either they won't put a coupon out ever or by putting a coupon code for it now
agree
I've looked into D&D Beyond as a temporary alternative during quarantine, but found that "free" characters cannot even use the basic subclasses or feats found in the Player's Handbook without repurchasing it for this platform (as I already have a number of physical copies of different sourcebooks). I've had to insert some of these options by hand as "homebrew" content.
My hesitation to adopt this tool stems entirely from the seeming lack of respect for customers who have already paid large amounts of money to support WotC and Fifth Edition. Even just the basic options from the Player's Handbook, the bare essentials, are kept behind an additional paywall.
So, I am awaiting further coupon codes, that I might consider investing in this system, perhaps even just beginning with the Player's Handbook. Though if quarantine passes without any type of discount, there won't be any reason to continue attempting to utilize D&D Beyond.
It's not that simple. This site is not run by WoTC. To grant you access to the publications the site owners have to pay the licensing fees to WoTC. So granting you access means it costs their business money as does managing and maintaining your accounts. If you want to be upset, the right folks to pressure is WoTC to grant you a portable license for the books you buy.
Buying a physical product does not entitle the customer to a digital product, unless the seller has explicitly said so. I have all of Taylor Swift's albums, but that does not entitle me to download her songs off of Google nor Amazon. I have all seven Harry Potter books and all the released A Song of Ice and Fire books, but that does not entitle me to download those books for free either. I have not seen anyone complain about buying a physical copy of Pokémon and then complain about Nintendo would not let them download the same game from Nintendo's eShop. I have never seen confusion elsewhere regarding the distinction of physical and digital products, so I am not sure why there is so much confusion regarding the distinction between physical and digital D&D products.
It would be no different if your employer assigned you and your coworker to do the same job but for different clients, but then they decide to only pay your coworker for their work but not you for your work, since they reason that they do not need to pay twice for the same job.
If Wizards of the Coast should be compensated for designing and manufacturing D&D books, then D&D Beyond should also be compensated for digitizing those books and developing all the other associated services on the site too. Even if Wizards and Beyond are the same company, digitizing books still costs additional money that is seperate from the manufacturing costs of the physical books, and they are still two separate and distinct products and Wizards is under no obligation to bundle them together.
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Read through the last pages of this thread in the hope for some codes, but all I found was whining and some good souls who put the whiners in their places.
Justice was served, now we just need those discount codes ...
Facts
there really is no argument or whining. i will wait till a discount is posted or wont buy merch or a script. its simple.
Sorry, but I didn't understand that point as I didn't notice you specify that you were referring to the idea of having a sale constantly. To be honest, I feel that's a strawman argument. Everyone here understands the difference between a price drop and a sale, and there aren't many here actually asking for a price drop. Everyone asking for a sale is well aware that they are asking for a sale and just are letting the company know they would purchase if there was one. That's all. It's actually helpful to Beyond to know about these customers, and I feel that discouraging this by complaining or shaming people is actually not advantageous to the company. People should be free to express a desire in the first place (as are you for sharing your opinions here, of course, I'm just encouraging some considerations here), and it is useful to the company to know both customer opinions and the level of desire and likely customers waiting for one of their regular sales.
Pardon if this wasn't clear in my post. That's exactly my point. ^_^
12 new posts and 0 new codes.
E: sorry, duplicate reply
EA's origin store does this for video games though. You can just enter the serial code of a decade old DVD and it'll add it to your digital library, available to download.
If it isn't about a current coupon code, don't post it. It is off topic.
And that is not the norm. Most companies do not bundle physical and digital product together outside of special promotions, and the vast majority of people do not expect physical and digital products to come bundled together either.
On page 73, a mod said they are opening up the thread to allow discussion that is not strictly just posting coupon codes. And for people do not want to keep getting thread notifications, the mod said they will keep posting any new coupon codes on the front page of the site and update their social media as usual.
Check Licenses and Resync Entitlements: < https://www.dndbeyond.com/account/licenses >
Running the Game by Matt Colville; Introduction: < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-YZvLUXcR8 >
D&D with High School Students by Bill Allen; Season 1 Episode 1: < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52NJTUDokyk&t >
Just curious when the last active code was?
It looks like the latest active codes were in March. No active codes came in April, or so far in May.
Patiently waiting. There are a couple of books I am interested in but I have them in the dead tree version. I can wait.
My birthday is Saturday.....
Would love to see a new code out too, please DnDBeyond? :-D