Does anybody know what book/date the rest of the wizard school subclasses are planned for? We've had two UA's, do we know anything about the official release? I'm frankly surprised Bladesinger got released before the rest of the school subclasses.
The silence has been deafening. As far as I know there are currently no new products announced. Which I think is the first time that’s happened since the start of this edition.
I know the Unearthed Arcana to publication process takes a long time (months to a year), but you’d think they’d post something like “unnamed player support book coming Q3 2026” or “unnamed horror adventures coming next fall” or something by now
We’ve seen that WotC have had a lot of trouble with global logistics this year. It’s possible that they might be waiting until they think they have those resolved before announcing any publication schedule.
That's a rather expensive wait, though. The dynamics aren't too dissimilar to films, which even if they release on the same date as a key competitor that can tank their Box Office, it's still better to release than to wait it out due to interest rates, just having the product on the market brings in money, etc.
If they wait, they either have their staff waiting around doing nothing but still costing money, or they keep churning out products but just release them later...but in the case of the latter, the products will start cannibalising each other's sales and crippling each other, costing a lot of lost profit.
I don't think they'd wait on logistical issues unless they're crippling their ability to actually get it out. I don't think that's the case, it's just an annoyance at the moment.
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I think the most likely reason is that they've decided to shorten the announcement-release window so they can be more confident of hitting the announced dates. They'll have a similar cadence, just announcing later.
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I think the most likely reason is that they've decided to shorten the announcement-release window so they can be more confident of hitting the announced dates. They'll have a similar cadence, just announcing later.
Yes, that’s more what I had in mind: I’d be surprised if they didn’t have the release schedule roughly worked out, but they might keeping quiet until they’re more confident about the dates.
Like i get not wanting to flood with releases, but the hearing nothing of what could be coming down the pipe is a little weird. Everything feels incomplete from the previous iteration, and the release schedule of constant drops would make sense since they are catching up on class updates. I would just like to know SOMETHING about what is coming.
Likely not every 2014 Subclass is likely getting an update, so i am just going to have to settle for 3rd party or homebrew to bring some of my older characters back into parity with the rest of the table.
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It's weird, but only because they fell into the trap of announcing things super early.
TOR usually announces the day the pre-orders go live (and if you pre-order, you get the PDF immediately). It works fine, from what I've seen. There is the temptation to announce earlier and get hype going etc...but WotC has been bitten on the backside by this habit:
The second you announce, the speculation goes nuts. People start dreaming and the fact is reality rarely keeps up with expectation. If you announce last second, people are blown away by the execution because their expectations were effectively zero. If you announce early, they're almost always disappointed.
When you announce early, you have a massive window where things can go wrong...and they do. The message you've sent to customers is not that you're awesome, but that you're late. That really doesn't help matters.
Announcing early means there are a lot of people who start planning for it...who gets annoyed when their January campaign that's dependent on your book now has to be a March one because you couldn't get them all printed in time. You don't get that blowback if you just, like, announce in March.
There is the temptation to announce early because it gets your stocks up and the various benefits for the business side of things, but it's bad for the health of the game itself. Worse, once you start doing it, it makes things bad for the business side when you try to walk it back (because your stocks are based on those early announcements artificially floating them). Hopefully though, they're biting the bullet and doing it so they don't get all the aggro they currently get when their prematurely announced product is delayed yet again.
Of course, it would be better to tell us that change in tack, assuming that's what they're doing, but nobody every accused WotC of having good communications.
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We’ve seen that WotC have had a lot of trouble with global logistics this year. It’s possible that they might be waiting until they think they have those resolved before announcing any publication schedule.
Doubtful, since their bigger goal is digital sales and subscriptions. Don’t need books for that.
That's a rather expensive wait, though. The dynamics aren't too dissimilar to films, which even if they release on the same date as a key competitor that can tank their Box Office, it's still better to release than to wait it out due to interest rates, just having the product on the market brings in money, etc.
If they wait, they either have their staff waiting around doing nothing but still costing money, or they keep churning out products but just release them later...but in the case of the latter, the products will start cannibalising each other's sales and crippling each other, costing a lot of lost profit.
I don't think they'd wait on logistical issues unless they're crippling their ability to actually get it out. I don't think that's the case, it's just an annoyance at the moment.
If we’re being honest, this sector of the hobby doesn’t have that problem. Books = subclasses, and sell regardless of adventures. Adventure paths can include magic items, which people might buy just to access them in ddb.
And not like it can’t sit around and not make money later. DDB gives them the benefits of an older MMO.business model, with only a few of the costs and risks associated with it.
Does anybody know what book/date the rest of the wizard school subclasses are planned for? We've had two UA's, do we know anything about the official release? I'm frankly surprised Bladesinger got released before the rest of the school subclasses.
Like everyone else has said, no clue when the next book if any will be published.
The only clues we have on the docket are the UAs for:
Since Eberon was Play tested, announced and Released we have a timeline for that one.
9 months from UA, 7 months from Presale announce.
So at a guess if the September UA went well, they sould announce the preorder for that book this month, or wait until January. As final testing plus 2~3 months to book announce has been a trend for a while now. But the amount of UAs to never go to book is fairly high.
But at best Guess they will announce the new Books in January during the retail slump that is January. They will give us a 6 ~8 month window for release plus a juicy early presale bonus to make post Christmas not be as bad as it can be.
I expect there will be 3/4 main books announced more or less at the same time. New DarkSun with "Apocalyptic Subclasses & New Psion Class" A Horror Setting book. at a guess it's a Ravenloft book, or something to do with the Shadowfell.
The Arcane subclasses feels like a setting book as well, but it's harder to pinpoint to one setting. My guess it will be included into a Players Handbook 2 type of thing, released at the same time as The horror settings. (note it will not be called PHB2 it'll have a name as if a wizard wrote it. ie Tasha's/bigby's)
Note the Arcane Subclasses book announce was the first after everyone left D&D. So it might take the longest to be finished.
Now if you were looking for "School of" subclasses for wizard, I don't think they are going to go that direction again for a long while. Having 6 8 identical subclases was a bad choice in early 5e. But the ease of making them 5.5 means you can still do that if you liked it.
Does anybody know what book/date the rest of the wizard school subclasses are planned for? We've had two UA's, do we know anything about the official release? I'm frankly surprised Bladesinger got released before the rest of the school subclasses.
No books past Eberron have been announced
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The silence has been deafening. As far as I know there are currently no new products announced. Which I think is the first time that’s happened since the start of this edition.
I know the Unearthed Arcana to publication process takes a long time (months to a year), but you’d think they’d post something like “unnamed player support book coming Q3 2026” or “unnamed horror adventures coming next fall” or something by now
We’ve seen that WotC have had a lot of trouble with global logistics this year. It’s possible that they might be waiting until they think they have those resolved before announcing any publication schedule.
That's a rather expensive wait, though. The dynamics aren't too dissimilar to films, which even if they release on the same date as a key competitor that can tank their Box Office, it's still better to release than to wait it out due to interest rates, just having the product on the market brings in money, etc.
If they wait, they either have their staff waiting around doing nothing but still costing money, or they keep churning out products but just release them later...but in the case of the latter, the products will start cannibalising each other's sales and crippling each other, costing a lot of lost profit.
I don't think they'd wait on logistical issues unless they're crippling their ability to actually get it out. I don't think that's the case, it's just an annoyance at the moment.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
I think the most likely reason is that they've decided to shorten the announcement-release window so they can be more confident of hitting the announced dates. They'll have a similar cadence, just announcing later.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
Yes, that’s more what I had in mind: I’d be surprised if they didn’t have the release schedule roughly worked out, but they might keeping quiet until they’re more confident about the dates.
Like i get not wanting to flood with releases, but the hearing nothing of what could be coming down the pipe is a little weird.
Everything feels incomplete from the previous iteration, and the release schedule of constant drops would make sense since they are catching up on class updates. I would just like to know SOMETHING about what is coming.
Likely not every 2014 Subclass is likely getting an update, so i am just going to have to settle for 3rd party or homebrew to bring some of my older characters back into parity with the rest of the table.
He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player.
The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call
To rise up in triumph should we all unite
The spark for change is yours to ignite."
Kalandra - The State of the World
It's weird, but only because they fell into the trap of announcing things super early.
TOR usually announces the day the pre-orders go live (and if you pre-order, you get the PDF immediately). It works fine, from what I've seen. There is the temptation to announce earlier and get hype going etc...but WotC has been bitten on the backside by this habit:
There is the temptation to announce early because it gets your stocks up and the various benefits for the business side of things, but it's bad for the health of the game itself. Worse, once you start doing it, it makes things bad for the business side when you try to walk it back (because your stocks are based on those early announcements artificially floating them). Hopefully though, they're biting the bullet and doing it so they don't get all the aggro they currently get when their prematurely announced product is delayed yet again.
Of course, it would be better to tell us that change in tack, assuming that's what they're doing, but nobody every accused WotC of having good communications.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
Doubtful, since their bigger goal is digital sales and subscriptions. Don’t need books for that.
If we’re being honest, this sector of the hobby doesn’t have that problem. Books = subclasses, and sell regardless of adventures. Adventure paths can include magic items, which people might buy just to access them in ddb.
And not like it can’t sit around and not make money later. DDB gives them the benefits of an older MMO.business model, with only a few of the costs and risks associated with it.
Like everyone else has said, no clue when the next book if any will be published.
The only clues we have on the docket are the UAs for:
Subclasses Update (October 30th 2025)
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Psion Update (October 2025)
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Arcane Subclasses Update (September 2025)
This feedback period has ended
Apocalyptic Subclasses (August 2025)
This feedback period has ended
Arcane Subclasses (5 months ago)
This feedback period has ended
The Psion (6 months ago)
This feedback period has ended
Horror Subclasses (7 months ago)
This feedback period has ended
Since Eberon was Play tested, announced and Released we have a timeline for that one.
9 months from UA, 7 months from Presale announce.
So at a guess if the September UA went well, they sould announce the preorder for that book this month, or wait until January. As final testing plus 2~3 months to book announce has been a trend for a while now. But the amount of UAs to never go to book is fairly high.
But at best Guess they will announce the new Books in January during the retail slump that is January. They will give us a 6 ~8 month window for release plus a juicy early presale bonus to make post Christmas not be as bad as it can be.
I expect there will be 3/4 main books announced more or less at the same time. New DarkSun with "Apocalyptic Subclasses & New Psion Class" A Horror Setting book. at a guess it's a Ravenloft book, or something to do with the Shadowfell.
The Arcane subclasses feels like a setting book as well, but it's harder to pinpoint to one setting. My guess it will be included into a Players Handbook 2 type of thing, released at the same time as The horror settings. (note it will not be called PHB2 it'll have a name as if a wizard wrote it. ie Tasha's/bigby's)
Note the Arcane Subclasses book announce was the first after everyone left D&D. So it might take the longest to be finished.
Now if you were looking for "School of" subclasses for wizard, I don't think they are going to go that direction again for a long while. Having
68 identical subclases was a bad choice in early 5e. But the ease of making them 5.5 means you can still do that if you liked it.