Just to add to the confusion, the word "Cleric" comes from the Latin "Clericus" which comes from the Ancient Greek "κλῆρος" which meant "the clergy" (in our modern terms). I'm pretty sure the Ancient Greeks weren't practicing judeo-christian beliefs.
If you want to retain the priestly aspects and get away from the "Churchly" aspects, play a pagan Druid.
Star Druid is a crazy good healer~
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Just to add to the confusion, the word "Cleric" comes from the Latin "Clericus" which comes from the Ancient Greek "κλῆρος" which meant "the clergy" (in our modern terms). I'm pretty sure the Ancient Greeks weren't practicing judeo-christian beliefs.
If you want to retain the priestly aspects and get away from the "Churchly" aspects, play a pagan Druid.
Star Druid is a crazy good healer~
The ancient Greeks had a polytheistic system. Zeus, Ares, Aphrodite, Hades, Poseidon and others.
Looking for a healer class, but something not so Christiancentric as the 'Cleric' class.
Any suggestions ?
Healer? Is that a gamer term? D&D doesn't have healers. They have spell casters that can cast healing along with their other spells. But none whose sole purpose is healing.
Actually, in the 2024 PHB, there is an Origin Feat called Healer. Useful feat to have when your spell slots are depleted.
Just to add to the confusion, the word "Cleric" comes from the Latin "Clericus" which comes from the Ancient Greek "κλῆρος" which meant "the clergy" (in our modern terms). I'm pretty sure the Ancient Greeks weren't practicing judeo-christian beliefs.
If you want to retain the priestly aspects and get away from the "Churchly" aspects, play a pagan Druid.
Star Druid is a crazy good healer~
The ancient Greeks had a polytheistic system. Zeus, Ares, Aphrodite, Hades, Poseidon and others.
Yep, and polytheistic is definitely not "Christiancentric" as the OP requested.
Just to add to the confusion, the word "Cleric" comes from the Latin "Clericus" which comes from the Ancient Greek "κλῆρος" which meant "the clergy" (in our modern terms). I'm pretty sure the Ancient Greeks weren't practicing judeo-christian beliefs.
If you want to retain the priestly aspects and get away from the "Churchly" aspects, play a pagan Druid.
Star Druid is a crazy good healer~
The ancient Greeks had a polytheistic system. Zeus, Ares, Aphrodite, Hades, Poseidon and others.
Yep, and polytheistic is definitely not "Christiancentric" as the OP requested.
The ancient Romans were polytheistic, as were the ancient Celts of Scotland and Ireland, the Norse of Norway, Sweden and Denmark, the Native American tribes and the Hindus of India. The faiths of the Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk and Eberron are also polytheistic.
So, you have plenty of deities to choose amongst, without having to involve the myriad forms of the deity worshipped by Christians, Jews and Muslims.
I don't know if this question is grounded in the way Clerics are presented in the present edition, or prior editions for that matter besides the original which was vague regarding from where the Cleric (and Paladin)'s divine magic came. While sure the Cleric class and the Paladin too probably draws their origins in the game from the christian idea of Cleric, most Dungeons and Dragons pantheons in almost all editions are far more Pagan or pre-christian religion inspired. Plus, you're familiar with the domain portfolio's Cleric's choose, right? There's a healing one right there, and by no means do you have to port a character to that domain in a Christiancentric fashion. So play a cleric with "divine magic" derived from whatever published or home brewed faith system you like. If you want to go even more "pre-religion" you could go with a Druid. There's a lot of overlapping in both classes' spell lists insofar as healing and nourishment magic.
If you want a class that has magical healing ability not derived from some sort of theism or faith based magic, only Warlocks, magic in Wizards and Sorcerers lack access to healing RAW. Clerics, Druids, Paladins, and Rangers can use healing magic.
So I guess I'm not sure if that helps, since the question seems to be asked with the presumption of real world religious underpinnings whereas in actuality there's no need to play the cleric class that way in your game. Are you trying to find a way to incorporate magical healing that isn't derived from divine magic?
This is mostly correct. However, there are subclasses for Warlocks and Sorcerers that can make them adept healers. Bards are also able to be healers as are Artificers.
Here are the healers in the game:
Cleric - Any domain. For non christian flavored clerics, look at Grave, Death, Nature, Tempest, or all sorts of other domains. Honestly, Grave might even be among the best healers in the game. It just means you'll likely let people fall unconscious before you heal them.
Paladin - Any domain. Not a great primary healer but it does the job just fine.
Druid - any domain. Dreams or Shepherd are the best healers but honestly you can pick any to do the healing for your party.
Bard - any subclass works.
Ranger -Any domain. More of a backup healer with access to lower level spells similar to the Paladin.
Warlock - Celestial patron.
Sorcerer - Divine soul lineage.
Artificer - Any of them can heal but the Artificer does it best. The other subclasses are more like the Ranger or Paladin in terms of healing output.
Monk - Way of Mercy (Unearthed Arcana meaning it's not official yet). This can work as a healer on par with a paladin or Ranger.
That pretty much covers it.
One thing to note is that you don't need a perfect party composition to play D&D. You don't need to have a tank, healer, and dps roles filled to be successful. It does make things easier though. You can all fill many roles. Moon Druids, for example, can literally fill all three of those rolls at the same time.
Just to put a fine point on this thread: alternate terms for cleric are priest, minister, rabbi and imam.
I would like a modification to the Origin Feat of Healer in the 2024 rules
A Healer uses a Healer's Kit to heal an injured character.
Option 1) If the character has unexpended Hit Dice, then the Healer rolls one (1) of those dice, adds his/her Proficiency Bonus to the result and restores that sum of Hit Points to the character. This is what the PHB says
Option 2) If the character does not any unexpended Hit Dice, then the Healer only restores Hit Points equal to his/her Proficiency Bonus to the character.
Why do I ask for this expansion? Partly because of the example of four of my close relatives: one is a retired hospital ER RN, another is a retired general ward RN, one is a retired cardiac care RN, and one was a military medical corpsman, turned firefighter and RN (buried in 2008, with full honors, at a national cemetery). People for whom the preservation of life was a sacred calling.
I would like a modification to the Origin Feat of Healer in the 2024 rules
A Healer uses a Healer's Kit to heal an injured character.
Option 1) If the character has unexpended Hit Dice, then the Healer rolls one (1) of those dice, adds his/her Proficiency Bonus to the result and restores that sum of Hit Points to the character. This is what the PHB says
Option 2) If the character does not any unexpended Hit Dice, then the Healer only restores Hit Points equal to his/her Proficiency Bonus to the character.
Why do I ask for this expansion? Partly because of the example of four of my close relatives: one is a retired hospital ER RN, another is a retired general ward RN, one is a retired cardiac care RN, and one was a military medical corpsman, turned firefighter and RN (buried in 2008, with full honors, at a national cemetery). People for whom the preservation of life was a sacred calling.
This would be a Homebrew feat you create. DDB doesn't have any creative control over the D&D system, they just implement it online.
Also, this is a thread about how the Cleric class is too Judeo-Christian coded and what would be a good healing class alternative...
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Star Druid is a crazy good healer~
"Not getting cut into bloody littles slices, That's the key to a sound plan."
The ancient Greeks had a polytheistic system. Zeus, Ares, Aphrodite, Hades, Poseidon and others.
Actually, in the 2024 PHB, there is an Origin Feat called Healer. Useful feat to have when your spell slots are depleted.
Yep, and polytheistic is definitely not "Christiancentric" as the OP requested.
The ancient Romans were polytheistic, as were the ancient Celts of Scotland and Ireland, the Norse of Norway, Sweden and Denmark, the Native American tribes and the Hindus of India. The faiths of the Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk and Eberron are also polytheistic.
So, you have plenty of deities to choose amongst, without having to involve the myriad forms of the deity worshipped by Christians, Jews and Muslims.
Just to put a fine point on this thread: alternate terms for cleric are priest, minister, rabbi and imam.
I would like a modification to the Origin Feat of Healer in the 2024 rules
A Healer uses a Healer's Kit to heal an injured character.
Option 1) If the character has unexpended Hit Dice, then the Healer rolls one (1) of those dice, adds his/her Proficiency Bonus to the result and restores that sum of Hit Points to the character. This is what the PHB says
Option 2) If the character does not any unexpended Hit Dice, then the Healer only restores Hit Points equal to his/her Proficiency Bonus to the character.
Why do I ask for this expansion? Partly because of the example of four of my close relatives: one is a retired hospital ER RN, another is a retired general ward RN, one is a retired cardiac care RN, and one was a military medical corpsman, turned firefighter and RN (buried in 2008, with full honors, at a national cemetery). People for whom the preservation of life was a sacred calling.
I think that is a perfectly acceptable change, just run it by your DM or put it in your game as the DM.
Hasbro/WotC/DDB doesn't need to make that change for you to use it.
This would be a Homebrew feat you create. DDB doesn't have any creative control over the D&D system, they just implement it online.
Also, this is a thread about how the Cleric class is too Judeo-Christian coded and what would be a good healing class alternative...