Thinking outside the box... what if you have the player roll attack spells, but interpret the verbal and somatic components as him reading vigorously certain passages out of the holy book. The damage taken is not physical damage but "conversion" damage. If the cleric does enough damage with divine spells against an enemy to bring them to 0 hp, instead of dying or being KO'ed, they are "converted to the cause" and stop fighting the party (which they'd do anyway if they were at 0 hp).
I'd be clear that, conversion won't work if physical damage was also done, so the cleric will have to be the ONLY one to damage them. Or maybe you can establish a % - if you do more than 75% of the damage, the creature is converted rather than killed.
That makes sense, but I'd only allow that for certain monsters. A bandit or newly indoctrinated cultist could probably be converted, but a demon or cult zealot probably couldn't be turned.
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A fool pulls the leaves. A brute chops the trunk. A sage digs the roots.
Are you objecting to the PC orating before combat or are you objecting to use of Bible verse?
It's ok to let PCs talk before during and after combat. Doesn't mean it is going to have the desired effect.
Bringing real world religion into the game can make some folk uncomfortable. If this is the case, have a chat with them. For this player, let them know God is with you as people, but not the characters you play. Further detail would require a different thread.
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"real life is a super high CR."
-OboeLauren
"............anybody got any potatoes? We could drop a potato in each hole an' see which ones get viciously mauled by horrible monsters?"
On a lighter note, am I the only one having a flashback to the scene in Dragonslayer when Emperor Palpatine tries to use a persuasion check on the Dragon, ordering it “Bow Down” or some such verbiage? That did not go well for him....
On a lighter note, am I the only one having a flashback to the scene in Dragonslayer when Emperor Palpatine tries to use a persuasion check on the Dragon ordering it “Bow Down” or some such verbiage? That did not go well for him....
Didn't work so well in Outlander and the Moorwen.
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"Sooner or later, your Players are going to smash your railroad into a sandbox."
-Vedexent
"real life is a super high CR."
-OboeLauren
"............anybody got any potatoes? We could drop a potato in each hole an' see which ones get viciously mauled by horrible monsters?"
-Ilyara Thundertale
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That makes sense, but I'd only allow that for certain monsters. A bandit or newly indoctrinated cultist could probably be converted, but a demon or cult zealot probably couldn't be turned.
A fool pulls the leaves. A brute chops the trunk. A sage digs the roots.
My Improved Lineage System
Are you objecting to the PC orating before combat or are you objecting to use of Bible verse?
It's ok to let PCs talk before during and after combat. Doesn't mean it is going to have the desired effect.
Bringing real world religion into the game can make some folk uncomfortable. If this is the case, have a chat with them. For this player, let them know God is with you as people, but not the characters you play. Further detail would require a different thread.
"Sooner or later, your Players are going to smash your railroad into a sandbox."
-Vedexent
"real life is a super high CR."
-OboeLauren
"............anybody got any potatoes? We could drop a potato in each hole an' see which ones get viciously mauled by horrible monsters?"
-Ilyara Thundertale
I'm not OP, but I don't think there is anything wrong with orating. Expecting it to have an effect is different.
A fool pulls the leaves. A brute chops the trunk. A sage digs the roots.
My Improved Lineage System
Lots of good advice here..
Dunno I could add much to it.
On a lighter note, am I the only one having a flashback to the scene in Dragonslayer when Emperor Palpatine tries to use a persuasion check on the Dragon, ordering it “Bow Down” or some such verbiage? That did not go well for him....
Didn't work so well in Outlander and the Moorwen.
"Sooner or later, your Players are going to smash your railroad into a sandbox."
-Vedexent
"real life is a super high CR."
-OboeLauren
"............anybody got any potatoes? We could drop a potato in each hole an' see which ones get viciously mauled by horrible monsters?"
-Ilyara Thundertale