Two out of 5 of my players really don't like each other. Whenever they both play, the adventures just get derailed. It's really annoying. At first I wanted to just kick the two of them out, but I had second thoughts. I'm friends with all of them in real life, so I couldn't do that. They're both a problem, but one is only bad when the other is there.
The problem really is that one of them doesn't know enough about the rules. He doesn't pay attention. I'm going to try to reach him the rules and also etiquette. However, in the past, when I try to do productive things with him, he just gets side tracked and tries to do other things. He enjoys drawing, so it's good that he's creative, but in his words, he's too "smooth brained". He says that the rules are too complicated for him, but he does enjoy playing the game. Two of the other players enjoy playing with him, so that's another reason that I can't kick him out. I just need him to be a better player.
Another thing, though, is that we have completely different styles. Most of the group, including me, likes epic/high fantasy and cinematic themes. But, he likes 1930s-50s, which I kind of hate. He also really likes drugs and alcohol. Not in real life, but in his characters and drawings.
So, different interests, different playing styles, and he doesn't have much interest in learning the rules. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME
Edit: the player that's usually ok also has a problem. He tries to seduce everything
The main one you should just disinvite, just let him know that you don't think D&D is really his kind of game maybe suggest your group of friend play Call of Cthulhu occasionally instead of D&D as that seems more like his kind of thing. You can't force a square peg into a round hole.
The seducer, just talk to them as ask them to stop or show more restraint. And don't be afraid to have NPCs react negatively to his attempts at seduction.
The main one you should just disinvite, just let him know that you don't think D&D is really his kind of game maybe suggest your group of friend play Call of Cthulhu occasionally instead of D&D as that seems more like his kind of thing. You can't force a square peg into a round hole.
The seducer, just talk to them as ask them to stop or show more restraint. And don't be afraid to have NPCs react negatively to his attempts at seduction.
I’m with Agilemind on this one and think you should tell the bigger problem not to play. D&D isn’t for everyone, and even if he likes the game not everyone is suitable for every game. I’ve got a couple of good friends that I just can’t play with because despite being good friends we just want different things from the game
Your other players can play both or split them up.
They are real life friends and the drawing guy likes the real life socializing aspect of the game. Kicking him out because he has a problem with rules is pretty harsh.
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I think some of the other posts would be good advice, but how would the two players who like playing with him feel if he was kicked out while the other player was allowed to stay?
Also why do the two not get along?
Is he having trouble with all the rules or just ones for his character? Maybe he needs to rethink his character and play something a bit more straightforward.
Two out of 5 of my players really don't like each other. Whenever they both play, the adventures just get derailed. It's really annoying. At first I wanted to just kick the two of them out, but I had second thoughts. I'm friends with all of them in real life, so I couldn't do that. They're both a problem, but one is only bad when the other is there.
The problem really is that one of them doesn't know enough about the rules. He doesn't pay attention. I'm going to try to reach him the rules and also etiquette. However, in the past, when I try to do productive things with him, he just gets side tracked and tries to do other things. He enjoys drawing, so it's good that he's creative, but in his words, he's too "smooth brained". He says that the rules are too complicated for him, but he does enjoy playing the game. Two of the other players enjoy playing with him, so that's another reason that I can't kick him out. I just need him to be a better player.
Another thing, though, is that we have completely different styles. Most of the group, including me, likes epic/high fantasy and cinematic themes. But, he likes 1930s-50s, which I kind of hate. He also really likes drugs and alcohol. Not in real life, but in his characters and drawings.
So, different interests, different playing styles, and he doesn't have much interest in learning the rules. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME
Edit: the player that's usually ok also has a problem. He tries to seduce everything
The main one you should just disinvite, just let him know that you don't think D&D is really his kind of game maybe suggest your group of friend play Call of Cthulhu occasionally instead of D&D as that seems more like his kind of thing. You can't force a square peg into a round hole.
The seducer, just talk to them as ask them to stop or show more restraint. And don't be afraid to have NPCs react negatively to his attempts at seduction.
Thank you so much. That really helps. 😁
I’m with Agilemind on this one and think you should tell the bigger problem not to play. D&D isn’t for everyone, and even if he likes the game not everyone is suitable for every game. I’ve got a couple of good friends that I just can’t play with because despite being good friends we just want different things from the game
I'm also with Agilemind on this.
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I would split the campaign or start a new one.
Problem 1 is in campaign A
Problem 2 is in campaign B
Your other players can play both or split them up.
They are real life friends and the drawing guy likes the real life socializing aspect of the game. Kicking him out because he has a problem with rules is pretty harsh.
"Sooner or later, your Players are going to smash your railroad into a sandbox."
-Vedexent
"real life is a super high CR."
-OboeLauren
"............anybody got any potatoes? We could drop a potato in each hole an' see which ones get viciously mauled by horrible monsters?"
-Ilyara Thundertale
I think some of the other posts would be good advice, but how would the two players who like playing with him feel if he was kicked out while the other player was allowed to stay?
Also why do the two not get along?
Is he having trouble with all the rules or just ones for his character? Maybe he needs to rethink his character and play something a bit more straightforward.
Thank you all for the advice. I think I have a solution now