Water is 2 parts hydrogen and 1 part oxygen. Water has dissolved oxygen in it. Put a goldfish in orange juice. If then when he dies you will have your answer.
Orange Juice has water in it but it is technically a mild acid and contains a lot of elements other than water, significantly more than most fresh/salt water...I can't imagine anything surviving in it for long, even if it was normally water-breathing. This is a DM call, but I would say that the spell only works in actual liquid water (salt or fresh).
Speaking underwater is also going to be up to the DM. Verbal components of spells are not tied to any language:
The words themselves aren't the source of the spell's power; rather, the particular combination of sounds, with specific pitch and resonance, sets the threads of magic in motion
So it doesn't matter what languages you speak, if the DM says you can speak underwater, then you can cast spells underwater. For me, I'd rule you can, if only because most seafaring races/creatures would be unable to access their spells in their own environment.
The spell simply says "underwater". What kinds of impurities causes water to stop being water for the purposes of the spell is basically up to you and your DM to negotiate. If you ask me, OJ is not water.
There is no rule that requires using the Aquan language to cast spells while underwater.
You need only compare Water Breathing to Water Walk to see an example of what Water Breathing would have been written like if it was ok with other liquids. Water is water, juice is not.
Water is 2 parts hydrogen and 1 part oxygen. Water has dissolved oxygen in it. Put a goldfish in orange juice. If then when he dies you will have your answer.
The spell simply says "underwater". What kinds of impurities causes water to stop being water for the purposes of the spell is basically up to you and your DM to negotiate. If you ask me, OJ is not water.
There is no rule that requires using the Aquan language to cast spells while underwater.
Orange Juice has water in it but it is technically a mild acid and contains a lot of elements other than water, significantly more than most fresh/salt water...I can't imagine anything surviving in it for long, even if it was normally water-breathing. This is a DM call, but I would say that the spell only works in actual liquid water (salt or fresh).
Speaking underwater is also going to be up to the DM. Verbal components of spells are not tied to any language:
The words themselves aren't the source of the spell's power; rather, the particular combination of sounds, with specific pitch and resonance, sets the threads of magic in motion
So it doesn't matter what languages you speak, if the DM says you can speak underwater, then you can cast spells underwater. For me, I'd rule you can, if only because most seafaring races/creatures would be unable to access their spells in their own environment.
If fully submerged in orange juice, would a character be able to breathe with the use of Water Breathing?
If yes, could they still cast spells using Aquan?
I'd say yes, but only for a limited time to the orange juice. You can breath water as if it is air, so anything mixed in the water (sugar, acid, etc) would be at best like breathing thinner air and at worst like breathing a mist or dust cloud of that stuff.
As for talking underwater, there are no rules for that. Particularly, there are no rules that say you can't. I'd say you can talk normally with water breathing (as well for any other means of being able to breath water). If you can't breath water, you get 1 spell or short sentence (make it count because you are now suffocating).
Otherwise, I'd consider that it's not water and is intended to forbid water-specific spells. Underwater is what I'd consider the keyword. Under orange juice (aka. ale) isn't what I'd consider underwater.
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If fully submerged in orange juice, would a character be able to breathe with the use of Water Breathing?
If yes, could they still cast spells using Aquan?
I'd say yes, but only for a limited time to the orange juice. You can breath water as if it is air, so anything mixed in the water (sugar, acid, etc) would be at best like breathing thinner air and at worst like breathing a mist or dust cloud of that stuff.
As for talking underwater, there are no rules for that. Particularly, there are no rules that say you can't. I'd say you can talk normally with water breathing (as well for any other means of being able to breath water). If you can't breath water, you get 1 spell or short sentence (make it count because you are now suffocating).
I second this. We had massive (for us webfoots!) forest fires here last summer, and it felt like I was trying to breathe dirt; if that’s what smoke can do, then I’d say that large amounts of debris or particles in water would probably feel like breathing pea-soup fog!
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I could see saying that the spell water breathing is able to allow someone to breath in any liquid-ish substance. As the DM I would put the special circumstance rule in place and limit the effectiveness of the magic. Things that leap to mind would be:
(1) Modifying the duration of the spell given that it may be working harder to give enough O2 to the user,
(2) Removing the extra characters that can benefit from the spell for the same reason as above,
(3) Making this use of the spell require concentration to maintain the magic as it is so unlike the researched spell.
(4) All of the above.
This is all in an effort to be a Yes...but DM as opposed to just a No.
None of this would address the fact that the caster could not see submerged in the OJ. This makes targeting anything difficult to say the least.
It simply depends on the nature of the water breathing. If it gives you gills or in other words, the ability to sift the oxygen from the water like a fish, then no, you would not be able to survive in orange juice. But if it simply fills your lungs with air or in other words, grants you an infinite supply of air, then yes, you could survive in orange juice.
By this logic, a potion of Water Breathing does not equal Orange Juice Breathing. But a spell? That's up for debate.
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Two-parter, folks.
Water is 2 parts hydrogen and 1 part oxygen. Water has dissolved oxygen in it. Put a goldfish in orange juice. If then when he dies you will have your answer.
Orange Juice has water in it but it is technically a mild acid and contains a lot of elements other than water, significantly more than most fresh/salt water...I can't imagine anything surviving in it for long, even if it was normally water-breathing. This is a DM call, but I would say that the spell only works in actual liquid water (salt or fresh).
Speaking underwater is also going to be up to the DM. Verbal components of spells are not tied to any language:
The words themselves aren't the source of the spell's power; rather, the particular combination of sounds, with specific pitch and resonance, sets the threads of magic in motion
So it doesn't matter what languages you speak, if the DM says you can speak underwater, then you can cast spells underwater. For me, I'd rule you can, if only because most seafaring races/creatures would be unable to access their spells in their own environment.
The spell simply says "underwater". What kinds of impurities causes water to stop being water for the purposes of the spell is basically up to you and your DM to negotiate. If you ask me, OJ is not water.
There is no rule that requires using the Aquan language to cast spells while underwater.
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You need only compare Water Breathing to Water Walk to see an example of what Water Breathing would have been written like if it was ok with other liquids. Water is water, juice is not.
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Thank you both.
I'd say yes, but only for a limited time to the orange juice. You can breath water as if it is air, so anything mixed in the water (sugar, acid, etc) would be at best like breathing thinner air and at worst like breathing a mist or dust cloud of that stuff.
As for talking underwater, there are no rules for that. Particularly, there are no rules that say you can't. I'd say you can talk normally with water breathing (as well for any other means of being able to breath water). If you can't breath water, you get 1 spell or short sentence (make it count because you are now suffocating).
By "orange juice", you mean "ale". Right?🤣
I'd allow it only if it were funny.
Otherwise, I'd consider that it's not water and is intended to forbid water-specific spells. Underwater is what I'd consider the keyword. Under orange juice (aka. ale) isn't what I'd consider underwater.
Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider.
My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong.
I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲
“It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
I second this. We had massive (for us webfoots!) forest fires here last summer, and it felt like I was trying to breathe dirt; if that’s what smoke can do, then I’d say that large amounts of debris or particles in water would probably feel like breathing pea-soup fog!
I live with several severe autoimmune conditions. If I don’t get back to you right away, it’s probably because I’m not feeling well.
I could see saying that the spell water breathing is able to allow someone to breath in any liquid-ish substance. As the DM I would put the special circumstance rule in place and limit the effectiveness of the magic. Things that leap to mind would be:
(1) Modifying the duration of the spell given that it may be working harder to give enough O2 to the user,
(2) Removing the extra characters that can benefit from the spell for the same reason as above,
(3) Making this use of the spell require concentration to maintain the magic as it is so unlike the researched spell.
(4) All of the above.
This is all in an effort to be a Yes...but DM as opposed to just a No.
None of this would address the fact that the caster could not see submerged in the OJ. This makes targeting anything difficult to say the least.
It simply depends on the nature of the water breathing. If it gives you gills or in other words, the ability to sift the oxygen from the water like a fish, then no, you would not be able to survive in orange juice. But if it simply fills your lungs with air or in other words, grants you an infinite supply of air, then yes, you could survive in orange juice.
By this logic, a potion of Water Breathing does not equal Orange Juice Breathing. But a spell? That's up for debate.