Are they supposed to require preparation and spell slots?
In dndbeyond the druid needs to prepare ritualspells, for some reason I thought they were just cast "for free" since they are rituals? (if cast as a ritual I mean).
I'm pretty sure I've done it like this before, though it might have mostly been on warlocks... I'm pretty sure my wizard had an "as ritual" thing though, but not sure.
Like the spell Augury, it's a ritual, should I have to prepare it? And do I need to use a spell slot to cast it? Or is it just a 1 minute casting time if I want to use a spellslot and cast it "fast" but a 10(11?) minute cast as a ritual?
Ritual spells can only be cast as a ritual if the class explicitly grants it as a feature, as the Wizard class does, or if the player gains ritual casting another way, such as through the Ritual Caster feat.
All others are limited to casting spells as outlined in their description.
Druids can cast ritual spells as a ritual, but only if prepared ahead of time.
Ritual Casting
You can cast a druid spell as a ritual if that spell has the ritual tag and you have the spell prepared.
Once prepared, you have the option of either casting the spell with its normal casting time by burning a spell slot, or by increasing its casting time by +10 minutes without burning a spell slot.
The wizard can ritually cast any ritual spell in their spell book, prepared or not. Other ritual spellcasters have to know or prepare the spell to ritually cast it. Regardless, ritual casting doesn't take spell slots just time.
The wizard can ritually cast and spell in their spell book. Every other ritual caster has to prepare the spell to ritually cast it. Regardless, ritual casting doesn't take spell slots just time.
Incorrect. Only spells with the "ritual" tag can be cast as rituals, and the spell does not need to be prepared to be cast in this manner. Other feats and class abilities work in a similar way. You are correct that ritual spells, when cast as a ritual, do not use spell slots (but take 10 extra minutes to cast)
The wizard can ritually cast and spell in their spell book. Every other ritual caster has to prepare the spell to ritually cast it. Regardless, ritual casting doesn't take spell slots just time.
Incorrect. Only spells with the "ritual" tag can be cast as rituals, and the spell does not need to be prepared to be cast in this manner. Other feats and class abilities work in a similar way. You are correct that ritual spells, when cast as a ritual, do not use spell slots (but take 10 extra minutes to cast)
I ninja'ed you and edited my post while you were writing. But yes you're right.
Edit: I should have read your response more closely, you're not right. Clerics and druids explicitly have to prepare a spell to ritually cast it. You are right about the ritual tags.
Are they supposed to require preparation and spell slots?
In dndbeyond the druid needs to prepare ritualspells, for some reason I thought they were just cast "for free" since they are rituals? (if cast as a ritual I mean).
I'm pretty sure I've done it like this before, though it might have mostly been on warlocks... I'm pretty sure my wizard had an "as ritual" thing though, but not sure.
Like the spell Augury, it's a ritual, should I have to prepare it? And do I need to use a spell slot to cast it? Or is it just a 1 minute casting time if I want to use a spellslot and cast it "fast" but a 10(11?) minute cast as a ritual?
Whole lot of confusion in this thread, and I don't think anyone's gotten it exactly right.
Casting a ritual spell never requires a spell slot.
Whether or not you need to prepare a spell to ritually cast it depends on the special rule you're using to ritually cast it.
The special rule druids have for ritually casting spells requires them to have the spell prepared.
Effectively the same special rule is on artificers and clerics.
The special rule bards and wizards have to cast rituals does not require them to prepare the spell, but does require them to know the spell.
Wizards need the spell in their spellbook, which is the definition for wizards of knowing a spell.
The special rule tomelocks have, as well as the special rule granted by the ritual caster feat, lets you cast spells from your ritual book as a ritual. You don't need to know or prepare the spell.
Other special rules work differently. For example, Totem Barbarians simply get a rule letting them cast Commune with Nature as a ritual, with no caveats. The UA race Owlfolk gets a similar rule, letting them cast Detect Magic as a ritual, and so on.
Whole lot of confusion in this thread, and I don't think anyone's gotten it exactly right.
Casting a ritual spell never requires a spell slot.
Whether or not you need to prepare a spell to ritually cast it depends on the special rule you're using to ritually cast it.
The special rule druids have for ritually casting spells requires them to have the spell prepared.
Effectively the same special rule is on artificers and clerics.
The special rule bards and wizards have to cast rituals does not require them to prepare the spell, but does require them to know the spell.
Wizards need the spell in their spellbook, which is the definition for wizards of knowing a spell.
The special rule tomelocks have, as well as the special rule granted by the ritual caster feat, lets you cast spells from your ritual book as a ritual. You don't need to know or prepare the spell.
Other special rules work differently. For example, Totem Barbarians simply get a rule letting them cast Commune with Nature as a ritual, with no caveats. The UA race Owlfolk gets a similar rule, letting them cast Detect Magic as a ritual, and so on.
Augury takes 11 minutes to cast as a ritual.
The best way to avoid confusion is to look at the Ritual Casting (or similarly named) section of your class or feat (or other) abilities of YOUR character to see how (or if) your character can cast spells marked with the ritual tag.
Thanks people! Yeah, it seems the druid information actually had it there after all, for some reason I just thought it would be the same kind of ritual casting as anyone else had but yeah makes sense then!
A bit of a shame as I'll need to have lots of spells locked into certain spellslots but... I'll live!
Thanks people! Yeah, it seems the druid information actually had it there after all, for some reason I just thought it would be the same kind of ritual casting as anyone else had but yeah makes sense then!
A bit of a shame as I'll need to have lots of spells locked into certain spellslots but... I'll live!
Thanks for clarifying
Be careful on terminology.
Druids can prepare a certain number of spells per day equal to their druid level + their WISdom bonus. These can be a mix of from any of the levels of spells that a druid can cast.
The Druid also gets spell slots - these are used to cast prepared spells.
So if you always want to be able to cast a few particular spells as rituals, you would have to dedicate some of your prepared spell allocation to remember these spells.
It's always worth having an IC chat before a long rest so that you know you'll be doing the following day, so that you only prepare the "ritual" spells for the things that you're likely to be doing the next day.
Thanks people! Yeah, it seems the druid information actually had it there after all, for some reason I just thought it would be the same kind of ritual casting as anyone else had but yeah makes sense then!
A bit of a shame as I'll need to have lots of spells locked into certain spellslots but... I'll live!
Thanks for clarifying
It is exactly the same kind of ritual casting as artificer and cleric, and very similar to how bard works. The only class that works different is wizard (paladin, ranger, sorcerer, and warlock don't have ritual caster).
Also, not sure what your complaint is with number of spells. Prepare casters get the most spells.
Thanks people! Yeah, it seems the druid information actually had it there after all, for some reason I just thought it would be the same kind of ritual casting as anyone else had but yeah makes sense then!
A bit of a shame as I'll need to have lots of spells locked into certain spellslots but... I'll live!
Thanks for clarifying
Be careful on terminology.
Druids can prepare a certain number of spells per day equal to their druid level + their WISdom bonus. These can be a mix of from any of the levels of spells that a druid can cast.
The Druid also gets spell slots - these are used to cast prepared spells.
So if you always want to be able to cast a few particular spells as rituals, you would have to dedicate some of your prepared spell allocation to remember these spells.
It's always worth having an IC chat before a long rest so that you know you'll be doing the following day, so that you only prepare the "ritual" spells for the things that you're likely to be doing the next day.
Yeah, I plan to use augury a lot just because it's a character theme thing not necessarily because it's good.
Thanks people! Yeah, it seems the druid information actually had it there after all, for some reason I just thought it would be the same kind of ritual casting as anyone else had but yeah makes sense then!
A bit of a shame as I'll need to have lots of spells locked into certain spellslots but... I'll live!
Thanks for clarifying
It is exactly the same kind of ritual casting as artificer and cleric, and very similar to how bard works. The only class that works different is wizard (paladin, ranger, sorcerer, and warlock don't have ritual caster).
Also, not sure what your complaint is with number of spells. Prepare casters get the most spells.
Yeah I recently played a wizard and a warlock with the book of shadows and the ritual part of it so they worked a bit different.
Also didn't mean it as complaining really, just meant that I'd have to allocate a few prepared spells a day for those ritual spells, I'll still be able to use the spell slots for the other spells but with less options than I hoped.
Are they supposed to require preparation and spell slots?
In dndbeyond the druid needs to prepare ritualspells, for some reason I thought they were just cast "for free" since they are rituals? (if cast as a ritual I mean).
I'm pretty sure I've done it like this before, though it might have mostly been on warlocks... I'm pretty sure my wizard had an "as ritual" thing though, but not sure.
Like the spell Augury, it's a ritual, should I have to prepare it? And do I need to use a spell slot to cast it? Or is it just a 1 minute casting time if I want to use a spellslot and cast it "fast" but a 10(11?) minute cast as a ritual?
Ritual spells can only be cast as a ritual if the class explicitly grants it as a feature, as the Wizard class does, or if the player gains ritual casting another way, such as through the Ritual Caster feat.
All others are limited to casting spells as outlined in their description.
Druids can cast ritual spells as a ritual, but only if prepared ahead of time.
Once prepared, you have the option of either casting the spell with its normal casting time by burning a spell slot, or by increasing its casting time by +10 minutes without burning a spell slot.
The wizard can ritually cast any ritual spell in their spell book, prepared or not. Other ritual spellcasters have to know or prepare the spell to ritually cast it. Regardless, ritual casting doesn't take spell slots just time.
Incorrect. Only spells with the "ritual" tag can be cast as rituals, and the spell does not need to be prepared to be cast in this manner. Other feats and class abilities work in a similar way. You are correct that ritual spells, when cast as a ritual, do not use spell slots (but take 10 extra minutes to cast)
I ninja'ed you and edited my post while you were writing. But yes you're right.
Edit: I should have read your response more closely, you're not right. Clerics and druids explicitly have to prepare a spell to ritually cast it. You are right about the ritual tags.
You need to prepare rituals to cast them unless you are a wizard or have a ritual feat/invocation (then they just need to be in your book).
They don't use slots if cast as a ritual, though it takes 10 minutes longer to do so.
Probably all repeated info. Didn't read other posts.
Whole lot of confusion in this thread, and I don't think anyone's gotten it exactly right.
The best way to avoid confusion is to look at the Ritual Casting (or similarly named) section of your class or feat (or other) abilities of YOUR character to see how (or if) your character can cast spells marked with the ritual tag.
A couple of other points.
Casting a spell as a ritual requires concentration.
The spell is always cast at the lowest level (the "higher slot" options do not apply).
Thanks people! Yeah, it seems the druid information actually had it there after all, for some reason I just thought it would be the same kind of ritual casting as anyone else had but yeah makes sense then!
A bit of a shame as I'll need to have lots of spells locked into certain spellslots but... I'll live!
Thanks for clarifying
Be careful on terminology.
Druids can prepare a certain number of spells per day equal to their druid level + their WISdom bonus. These can be a mix of from any of the levels of spells that a druid can cast.
The Druid also gets spell slots - these are used to cast prepared spells.
So if you always want to be able to cast a few particular spells as rituals, you would have to dedicate some of your prepared spell allocation to remember these spells.
It's always worth having an IC chat before a long rest so that you know you'll be doing the following day, so that you only prepare the "ritual" spells for the things that you're likely to be doing the next day.
It is exactly the same kind of ritual casting as artificer and cleric, and very similar to how bard works. The only class that works different is wizard (paladin, ranger, sorcerer, and warlock don't have ritual caster).
Also, not sure what your complaint is with number of spells. Prepare casters get the most spells.
Yeah, I plan to use augury a lot just because it's a character theme thing not necessarily because it's good.
But yeah meant prepared spells, not spellslots!
Yeah I recently played a wizard and a warlock with the book of shadows and the ritual part of it so they worked a bit different.
Also didn't mean it as complaining really, just meant that I'd have to allocate a few prepared spells a day for those ritual spells, I'll still be able to use the spell slots for the other spells but with less options than I hoped.
And of course I don't "have to", but I will because they'll be thematically correct spells! ;)