I am currently playing curse of strahd, and my wood elf is being effected by the hags nightmare haunting. the question is, since elves do not sleep, they enter a trance, should the haunting effect him. rules as written says "magically touches a sleeping humaniod, and rules as written say elves do not sleep, but enter trance?
RAW, I would say this sort of thing is exactly the sort of thing an Elf's Trance is meant to make them immune to. But, I can understand if your DM either didn't realize Elves should be immune, or chooses to interpret the rules differently.
That said, the Elves Trance ability does mention that Elves can "Dream after a fashion", which is juuuuust enough wiggle room for some DM's to allow the Nightmare Haunting.
I'd say don't be too aggressive with it, but it's worth asking your DM if it's even possible for you to get haunted. But you never know exactly what a DM has done with their creatures... anything you run into might have had some home brewing done to it. A lot of DM's do this, especially if they play with players who know creature stat blocks from memory, since it lets them still surprise their players.
RAW, I would say this sort of thing is exactly the sort of thing an Elf's Trance is meant to make them immune to. But, I can understand if your DM either didn't realize Elves should be immune, or chooses to interpret the rules differently.
That said, the Elves Trance ability does mention that Elves can "Dream after a fashion", which is juuuuust enough wiggle room for some DM's to allow the Nightmare Haunting.
I'd say don't be too aggressive with it, but it's worth asking your DM if it's even possible for you to get haunted. But you never know exactly what a DM has done with their creatures... anything you run into might have had some home brewing done to it. A lot of DM's do this, especially if they play with players who know creature stat blocks from memory, since it lets them still surprise their players.
Agreed.
I will like to add that I have interpreted this scenario as a DM versus a player who is very much someone who tries to read through stories and monster stat blocks in order to counter-build against combat initiatives (it gets tiresome, but the player is actually quite good at RP too). The Night Hag utilized their Nightmare Haunting feature to disrupt the "mental exercises" of his Elf just enough to cause an effect. Ostensibly the effect can occur due to the Hag affecting the creature from a different plain. At first the effect was minor, but gradually built up towards the full penalty Nightmare Haunting would normally inflict.
Even though it may not technically be actual sleep as required by other races, the disruption of the mind and its ability to recuperate is the primary goal of the feature in my interpretation.
See Invisibility might be able to help detect them. Or a solid force effect, like a tiny hut could seal them out. The fact they can find you and get to you during your 4 hour trance is super weird unless they're very close by.
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I am currently playing curse of strahd, and my wood elf is being effected by the hags nightmare haunting. the question is, since elves do not sleep, they enter a trance, should the haunting effect him. rules as written says "magically touches a sleeping humaniod, and rules as written say elves do not sleep, but enter trance?
thanks for the advice
RAW, I would say this sort of thing is exactly the sort of thing an Elf's Trance is meant to make them immune to. But, I can understand if your DM either didn't realize Elves should be immune, or chooses to interpret the rules differently.
That said, the Elves Trance ability does mention that Elves can "Dream after a fashion", which is juuuuust enough wiggle room for some DM's to allow the Nightmare Haunting.
I'd say don't be too aggressive with it, but it's worth asking your DM if it's even possible for you to get haunted. But you never know exactly what a DM has done with their creatures... anything you run into might have had some home brewing done to it. A lot of DM's do this, especially if they play with players who know creature stat blocks from memory, since it lets them still surprise their players.
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Agreed.
I will like to add that I have interpreted this scenario as a DM versus a player who is very much someone who tries to read through stories and monster stat blocks in order to counter-build against combat initiatives (it gets tiresome, but the player is actually quite good at RP too). The Night Hag utilized their Nightmare Haunting feature to disrupt the "mental exercises" of his Elf just enough to cause an effect. Ostensibly the effect can occur due to the Hag affecting the creature from a different plain. At first the effect was minor, but gradually built up towards the full penalty Nightmare Haunting would normally inflict.
Even though it may not technically be actual sleep as required by other races, the disruption of the mind and its ability to recuperate is the primary goal of the feature in my interpretation.
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I'd say since elves don't sleep while in Trance, they're unaffected by a night hag's Nightmare Haunting.
Surely there's someone in the party who sleeps. Why would the hag target the elf?
See Invisibility might be able to help detect them. Or a solid force effect, like a tiny hut could seal them out. The fact they can find you and get to you during your 4 hour trance is super weird unless they're very close by.
I'm probably laughing.
It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.