It's an exceptional circumstance when for whatever reason you are invisible but completely covered by a visible object. Attacking object that way would use AC and HP of said object, and not yours though. You would still be invisible under the visible fabric, with all the benefits it entails, and would not suffer attacks directed at objects you wear or carryanymore than if you were visible.
It's an exceptional circumstance when for whatever reason you are invisible but completely covered by a visible object. Attacking object that way would use AC and HP of said object, and not yours though. You would still be invisible under the visible fabric, with all the benefits it entails, and would not suffer attacks directed at objects you wear or carryanymore than if you were visible.
So what you're saying is that being invisible and covered with visible objects is functionally identical to being invisible?
Which has the same exact mechanical results as if the stuff were invisible too. You are still free to attempt to hide, and your location is still known if you're not hidden.
Oh no, I wasn't correcting you. "Edge case" and "corner case" are both used. A "corner case" is rarer than an "edge case" (since a corner is where three edges meet). I meant creatures fully covered in gear wasn't rare at all (hence "not a corner case, not even an edge case").
Which has the same exact mechanical results as if the stuff were invisible too. You are still free to attempt to hide, and your location is still known if you're not hidden.
"The DM decides when circumstances are appropriate for hiding" and may rule that it fails though.
Oh no, I wasn't correcting you. "Edge case" and "corner case" are both used. A "corner case" is rarer than an "edge case" (since a corner is where three edges meet). I meant creatures fully covered in gear wasn't rare at all (hence "not a corner case, not even an edge case").
Ok i'm not english native so i did not know that but it make sense though thanks for explaining.
DMs may determine such extreme circumstances are not appropriate, especially if onlookers can see flashlights disco ball gears loll
They can see all that stuff, but you are still hidden, since that stuff isn't you.
It'd be like saying knocking over a vase they can hear it but you are still hidden, since that stuff isn't you.
Compared to invisible being absolute while lasting, hiding last until you are discovered or you stop hiding. Signs of your presence can compromise Stealth if DM rule that way. Carrying visible illuminated objects while hiding could draw attention on you and fail to escape notice and be discovered, such interference is textually cited as exemple;
''You can't hide from a creature that can see you clearly, and you give away your position if you make noise, such as shouting a warning or knocking over a vase.''
DMs may determine such extreme circumstances are not appropriate, especially if onlookers can see flashlights disco ball gears loll
They can see all that stuff, but you are still hidden, since that stuff isn't you.
It'd be like saying knocking over a vase they can hear it but you are still hidden, since that stuff isn't you.
Compared to invisible being absolute while lasting, hiding last until you are discovered or you stop hiding. Signs of your presence can compromise Stealth if DM rule that way. Carrying visible illuminated objects while hiding could draw attention on you and fail to escape notice and be discovered, such interference is textually cited as exemple;
''You can't hide from a creature that can see you clearly, and you give away your position if you make noise, such as shouting a warning or knocking over a vase.''
But objects don't give away your position, they give away their position. And again, your position is generally known unless you are hiding (see post #33).
So there is no functional difference between you saving and everything that is not "you" becoming illuminated and you saving and you actually remaining invisible in the normal understanding of the term.
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Edge case sorry anyway you know what i meant! ☺
It's an exceptional circumstance when for whatever reason you are invisible but completely covered by a visible object. Attacking object that way would use AC and HP of said object, and not yours though. You would still be invisible under the visible fabric, with all the benefits it entails, and would not suffer attacks directed at objects you wear or carryanymore than if you were visible.
So what you're saying is that being invisible and covered with visible objects is functionally identical to being invisible?
If you're invisible and objects you wear or carry are visible, then you're invisible and objects you wear or carry are visible.
Which has the same exact mechanical results as if the stuff were invisible too. You are still free to attempt to hide, and your location is still known if you're not hidden.
Oh no, I wasn't correcting you. "Edge case" and "corner case" are both used. A "corner case" is rarer than an "edge case" (since a corner is where three edges meet). I meant creatures fully covered in gear wasn't rare at all (hence "not a corner case, not even an edge case").
"The DM decides when circumstances are appropriate for hiding" and may rule that it fails though.
Ok i'm not english native so i did not know that but it make sense though thanks for explaining.
Not in the case of invisible creatures. Invisible creatures can always attempt to hide. that is to say, circumstances are appropriate.
DMs may determine such extreme circumstances are not appropriate, especially if onlookers can see flashlights disco ball gears loll
They can see all that stuff, but you are still hidden, since that stuff isn't you.
It'd be like saying knocking over a vase they can hear it but you are still hidden, since that stuff isn't you.
Compared to invisible being absolute while lasting, hiding last until you are discovered or you stop hiding. Signs of your presence can compromise Stealth if DM rule that way. Carrying visible illuminated objects while hiding could draw attention on you and fail to escape notice and be discovered, such interference is textually cited as exemple;
''You can't hide from a creature that can see you clearly, and you give away your position if you make noise, such as shouting a warning or knocking over a vase.''
But objects don't give away your position, they give away their position. And again, your position is generally known unless you are hiding (see post #33).
So there is no functional difference between you saving and everything that is not "you" becoming illuminated and you saving and you actually remaining invisible in the normal understanding of the term.