We are talking about when you ride/use them right? Because otherwise you could roll up the carpet and shove it in your backpack and you'd be fine.
While riding either I would not allow it to automatically follow along with a Misty Step (or similar teleportation). Spending an action to grab a secure hold of it seems like a somewhat steep price but I'd likely require it. AFAIK there is no hard rule about this though so, as normal, ask your DM.
There are a few magic items that some can say are neither worn or carried.
Examples include:
Carpet of Flying
Broom of Flying
Lets say you are on them and have to Misty Step to get past a Wall of Fire or other such barrier.
Do you take the Carpet/Broom automatically?
Do you have to use your action to grab the Carpet/Broom then use your Bonus Action to Misty Step?
Misty Step will not generally teleport an object you are standing, sitting, or lying on. As a result, it will in general leave a carpet beneath you behind. This is independent of whether or not the carpet can fly or is flying. However, one of the rules situations not covered in the rules is what happens when multiple people are carrying the same object, e.g. if you roll the carpet up and carry it along with someone else, and then you misty step. The same rules situation happens if you grab the carpet you're standing on before casting the spell and other people are also holding onto it. You'll have to ask your DM, but in general do not be surprised if the answer is that you can only teleport with objects that no-one else is carrying.
A Broom of Flying is a rules mess in and of itself - a DM has to homebrew how it works because RAW there's no answer to how to adjudicate it. Every DM I've ever had has counted the Broom as an object I was carrying that gave me a fly speed, in order to avoid deeply weird rules contradictions potentially embedded in other rulings. Under that logic, which I have used many times, the broom always goes with you when you Misty Step. However, you'll have to ask your DM how they want it to work in their campaign.
I would allow you to use an object interaction to grab it but I would not allow you to cast misty step while flying unless you are will to leave the broom / carpet behind. (i.e. you could land, object teraction to hold it and then misty step and still have your action). But yeah on to ask your DM.
An object interaction to grab (and thus be "holding") the broom/carpet should be sufficient.
You're already flying so it's not like misty step is gaining you any height you couldn't already get to, it's just letting you move a bit further on your turn without using a Dash, while possibly disengaging from an enemy or bypassing an obstacle into the bargain.
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I would let the player make the call to whether they were teleporting from the object or teleporting with the object. And I like Haravikk's distinction. If you want to take it with you, just grab it.
I would argue that if you were standing on a carpet in the throne room of the king and cast misty step, that carpet wouldn't come with you, so neither should a carpet of flying. A broom, on the other hand, would come with you if you were holding it.
I would argue that if you were standing on a carpet in the throne room of the king and cast misty step, that carpet wouldn't come with you, so neither should a carpet of flying. A broom, on the other hand, would come with you if you were holding it.
You could also wear the carpet; just pop it round yourself like a cloak as an action, then misty step away with your bonus action and live the rest of your life as the carpeted crusader. 😉
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I disagree with all of the people saying you need to land. If an Aarakocra Wizard flew somwhere, he could still cast any spell (including misty step), so why would you need to land off of a broom/carpet for the same?
Both are items, so you should be able to carry them with you as nothing in the spell says you teleport without any of your gear.
Whats to stop me from misty stepping with my horse? Or wagon?
The flight ability of the Aarakorcra is a natural ability of the creature not an object ridden.When you teleport you do not leave your arms behind why would they leave their wings behind?
The rule could be you can misty step with anything you reach down and pick up. You have to land from Misty Step, so the idea is you pick up the carpet/broom and you begin to fall but you instantly Misty Step, landing on the ground with no damage, carrying the carpet/broom. Wagons and horses are too big for most to carry.
The rule could be you can misty step with anything you reach down and pick up. You have to land from Misty Step, so the idea is you pick up the carpet/broom and you begin to fall but you instantly Misty Step, landing on the ground with no damage, carrying the carpet/broom. Wagons and horses are too big for most to carry.
I agree. but it would be a real tricky move to time the fall so you could see into the room as you pass the window on the way down. Damn near impossible.
I disagree with all of the people saying you need to land. If an Aarakocra Wizard flew somwhere, he could still cast any spell (including misty step), so why would you need to land off of a broom/carpet for the same?
Both are items, so you should be able to carry them with you as nothing in the spell says you teleport without any of your gear.
Whats to stop me from misty stepping with my horse?
Nothing is teleported by the spell except what some rule says is teleported by the spell. No rule in the game says the spell teleports the horse, so it doesn't. Note that the spell itself says it teleports the caster.
The flight ability of the Aarakorcra is a natural ability of the creature not an object ridden.When you teleport you do not leave your arms behind why would they leave their wings behind?
Correct. When a creature is teleported, the entire creature is teleported, not part of it.
Why do people think you need to land to cast a spell? Misty Step is just a verbal spell, so you don't even need a free hand. I think Misty Step would be a great way to save yourself from falling.
Say you have a Feather Token that slows your fall speed and someone pushes you off of a cliff. I would say that on your turn (Xanathar's weird falling rule notwithstanding) you could absolutely Misty Step back onto the ledge as you would not have fallen all that far. Even with the XGtE falling rule, a Sorcerer could Distant Spell Misty Step back up.
You are quite correct that Misty Step can be cast while in the air - the practical issues are that you need to cast it on your turn (because it uses a bonus action) and the distance isn't stellar, but it's completely legal. In fact, one of the best uses of Misty Step is escaping from a grapple, and you may well have been grappled by a flying creature that's lifted you up in the air.
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There are a few magic items that some can say are neither worn or carried.
Examples include:
Lets say you are on them and have to Misty Step to get past a Wall of Fire or other such barrier.
Do you take the Carpet/Broom automatically?
Do you have to use your action to grab the Carpet/Broom then use your Bonus Action to Misty Step?
We are talking about when you ride/use them right? Because otherwise you could roll up the carpet and shove it in your backpack and you'd be fine.
While riding either I would not allow it to automatically follow along with a Misty Step (or similar teleportation). Spending an action to grab a secure hold of it seems like a somewhat steep price but I'd likely require it. AFAIK there is no hard rule about this though so, as normal, ask your DM.
Misty Step will not generally teleport an object you are standing, sitting, or lying on. As a result, it will in general leave a carpet beneath you behind. This is independent of whether or not the carpet can fly or is flying. However, one of the rules situations not covered in the rules is what happens when multiple people are carrying the same object, e.g. if you roll the carpet up and carry it along with someone else, and then you misty step. The same rules situation happens if you grab the carpet you're standing on before casting the spell and other people are also holding onto it. You'll have to ask your DM, but in general do not be surprised if the answer is that you can only teleport with objects that no-one else is carrying.
A Broom of Flying is a rules mess in and of itself - a DM has to homebrew how it works because RAW there's no answer to how to adjudicate it. Every DM I've ever had has counted the Broom as an object I was carrying that gave me a fly speed, in order to avoid deeply weird rules contradictions potentially embedded in other rulings. Under that logic, which I have used many times, the broom always goes with you when you Misty Step. However, you'll have to ask your DM how they want it to work in their campaign.
I would allow you to use an object interaction to grab it but I would not allow you to cast misty step while flying unless you are will to leave the broom / carpet behind. (i.e. you could land, object teraction to hold it and then misty step and still have your action). But yeah on to ask your DM.
An object interaction to grab (and thus be "holding") the broom/carpet should be sufficient.
You're already flying so it's not like misty step is gaining you any height you couldn't already get to, it's just letting you move a bit further on your turn without using a Dash, while possibly disengaging from an enemy or bypassing an obstacle into the bargain.
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I would let the player make the call to whether they were teleporting from the object or teleporting with the object. And I like Haravikk's distinction. If you want to take it with you, just grab it.
"Not all those who wander are lost"
What do you think about treating the Carpet as a mount?
Fundamentally violates the RAW on the action economy of controlling the carpet, among other problems.
A vehicle, maybe. But even that seems excessive.
"Not all those who wander are lost"
Sound like someone is using the broom or carpet to fly up to a window then misty stepping through the window.
Simple answer is to stand on the window ledge grab the flying thing and then misty step through the window.
Or fly to the roof and rope yourself down.
Or have a second person controlling the flying object.
Skipping that step in between makes thing hard.
i would let the magic item teleport with the character if held counting it as carried object.
I would argue that if you were standing on a carpet in the throne room of the king and cast misty step, that carpet wouldn't come with you, so neither should a carpet of flying. A broom, on the other hand, would come with you if you were holding it.
You could also wear the carpet; just pop it round yourself like a cloak as an action, then misty step away with your bonus action and live the rest of your life as the carpeted crusader. 😉
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Sure. But I was just talking about regular use.
Whats to stop me from misty stepping with my horse? Or wagon?
The flight ability of the Aarakorcra is a natural ability of the creature not an object ridden.When you teleport you do not leave your arms behind why would they leave their wings behind?
The rule could be you can misty step with anything you reach down and pick up. You have to land from Misty Step, so the idea is you pick up the carpet/broom and you begin to fall but you instantly Misty Step, landing on the ground with no damage, carrying the carpet/broom. Wagons and horses are too big for most to carry.
I agree. but it would be a real tricky move to time the fall so you could see into the room as you pass the window on the way down. Damn near impossible.
You cant teleport another creature with you when casting misty step
Nothing is teleported by the spell except what some rule says is teleported by the spell. No rule in the game says the spell teleports the horse, so it doesn't. Note that the spell itself says it teleports the caster.
Sure, if you can wear or carry the wagon.
Correct. When a creature is teleported, the entire creature is teleported, not part of it.
Ah, you mean a Feather Token (Feather Fall), not a Feather Token. Took me a second.
You are quite correct that Misty Step can be cast while in the air - the practical issues are that you need to cast it on your turn (because it uses a bonus action) and the distance isn't stellar, but it's completely legal. In fact, one of the best uses of Misty Step is escaping from a grapple, and you may well have been grappled by a flying creature that's lifted you up in the air.