I am very sorry. I think I got my missunderstanding now.
Again. I am very sorry.
I wouldn't feel badly about it, the word "attack" means three different things in the rules and has been tripping people up since 5th edition released!
You've got the Attack action, the attack roll and the "attack" as a whole (pick weapon, pick target, make attack roll, roll damage), it can get confusing even for players who've been playing for a while, and plenty of people have thought "well if I can make two attacks, and this spell is an attack, can I do it twice?"; it's not illogical, but it's incorrect because the rules actually require the Attack action (which is almost always capitalised) to enable more than one attack, and only attacks of a certain type. It is however very easy to make this mistake!
I was really hoping they might rename the action to "Fight" or something in OneD&D to try and limit the confusion, but there's no sign of that so far.
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I am very sorry. I think I got my missunderstanding now.
Again. I am very sorry.
I wouldn't feel badly about it, the word "attack" means three different things in the rules and has been tripping people up since 5th edition released!
You've got the Attack action, the attack roll and the "attack" as a whole (pick weapon, pick target, make attack roll, roll damage), it can get confusing even for players who've been playing for a while, and plenty of people have thought "well if I can make two attacks, and this spell is an attack, can I do it twice?"; it's not illogical, but it's incorrect because the rules actually require the Attack action (which is almost always capitalised) to enable more than one attack. It is however very easy to make this mistake!
I was really hoping they might rename the action to "Fight" or something in OneD&D to try and limit the confusion, but there's no sign of that so far.
I was hoping they would do it to or something to help folks differentiate especially since they want to try to draw in newer people.
I mean just because the way they are now is readable and does make sense it's also always easy to see how people get tripped up on how it's worded.
At base with the loading property IF you have multiple Attacks your only allowed to make one. This is the restriction, you aren't able to make use of your full multi-attack. That's it. When you ignore the loading property, that is ignored, so you can now make use of your full multi-attack, you don't get any more attacks, you are just able to make use of the attacks, you already had
Actually It prohibits extra attack not action surge. Action surge can be used to cast spells, interact with extra objects, fire two bolts and a lot of other things.
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I wouldn't feel badly about it, the word "attack" means three different things in the rules and has been tripping people up since 5th edition released!
You've got the Attack action, the attack roll and the "attack" as a whole (pick weapon, pick target, make attack roll, roll damage), it can get confusing even for players who've been playing for a while, and plenty of people have thought "well if I can make two attacks, and this spell is an attack, can I do it twice?"; it's not illogical, but it's incorrect because the rules actually require the Attack action (which is almost always capitalised) to enable more than one attack, and only attacks of a certain type. It is however very easy to make this mistake!
I was really hoping they might rename the action to "Fight" or something in OneD&D to try and limit the confusion, but there's no sign of that so far.
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I was hoping they would do it to or something to help folks differentiate especially since they want to try to draw in newer people.
I mean just because the way they are now is readable and does make sense it's also always easy to see how people get tripped up on how it's worded.
At base with the loading property IF you have multiple Attacks your only allowed to make one. This is the restriction, you aren't able to make use of your full multi-attack. That's it. When you ignore the loading property, that is ignored, so you can now make use of your full multi-attack, you don't get any more attacks, you are just able to make use of the attacks, you already had
Actually It prohibits extra attack not action surge. Action surge can be used to cast spells, interact with extra objects, fire two bolts and a lot of other things.