Let's take a look at a similar spell: the new version of weird, which has a duration of 1 minute
You try to create illusory terrors in others’ minds. Each creature of your choice in a 30-foot-radius Sphere centered on a point within range makes a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, a target takes 10d10 Psychic damage and has the Frightened condition for the duration. On a successful save, a target takes half as much damage only.
A Frightened target makes a Wisdom saving throw at the end of each of its turns. On a failed save, it takes 5d10 Psychic damage. On a successful save, the spell ends on that target.
Are you devil's advocates seriously suggesting that if you succeed on the initial save, but get Frightened by another source before the 1 minute duration is up, you have to start making Wisdom saves again?
I don't think you'll ever get an answer to this question, Anton.
At least, not one with any kind of internal consistency behind it
The difference is that it is specified that, on a successful save, they take the half damage only.
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"Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are to fast: I would catch it."
"I cannot comment on an ongoing investigation."
"Well of course I know that. What else is there? A kitten?"
"You'd like to think that, Wouldn't you?"
"A duck."
"What do you mean? An African or European swallow?"
Let's take a look at a similar spell: the new version of weird, which has a duration of 1 minute
You try to create illusory terrors in others’ minds. Each creature of your choice in a 30-foot-radius Sphere centered on a point within range makes a Wisdom saving throw. On a failed save, a target takes 10d10 Psychic damage and has the Frightened condition for the duration. On a successful save, a target takes half as much damage only.
A Frightened target makes a Wisdom saving throw at the end of each of its turns. On a failed save, it takes 5d10 Psychic damage. On a successful save, the spell ends on that target.
Are you devil's advocates seriously suggesting that if you succeed on the initial save, but get Frightened by another source before the 1 minute duration is up, you have to start making Wisdom saves again?
I don't think you'll ever get an answer to this question, Anton.
At least, not one with any kind of internal consistency behind it
The difference is that it is specified that, on a successful save, they take the half damage only.
Exactly. It tells you explicitly that on a successful save there is an effect.
To me spells don't have any effect on a saving throw success unless noted otherwise and if on a failure it impose a condition, any reference to such condition thereafter is referring to the one inflicted by the spell. While few spells actually write in this way, i attribute such inconsistency more to a lack of consideration by self evidence than a proof that spells not specifying in this way means it include any source of said condition.
To me spells don't have any effect on a saving throw success unless noted otherwise and if on a failure it impose a condition, any reference to such condition thereafter is referring to the one inflicted by the spell. While few spells actually write in this way, i attribute such inconsistency more to a lack of consideration by self evidence than a proof that spells not specifying in this way means it include any source of said condition.
This somewhat makes sense, but there is no actual proof for that.
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"Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are to fast: I would catch it."
"I cannot comment on an ongoing investigation."
"Well of course I know that. What else is there? A kitten?"
"You'd like to think that, Wouldn't you?"
"A duck."
"What do you mean? An African or European swallow?"
The difference is that it is specified that, on a successful save, they take the half damage only.
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Exactly. It tells you explicitly that on a successful save there is an effect.
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To me spells don't have any effect on a saving throw success unless noted otherwise and if on a failure it impose a condition, any reference to such condition thereafter is referring to the one inflicted by the spell. While few spells actually write in this way, i attribute such inconsistency more to a lack of consideration by self evidence than a proof that spells not specifying in this way means it include any source of said condition.
Example of spells specifically making subsequent reference to a condition in this way after imposing it include Modify Memory and Stinking Cloud while other spells simple say While [insert condition]ed, such as Ensnaring Strike, Hypnotic Pattern, Symbol and Geas
This somewhat makes sense, but there is no actual proof for that.
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