I apologise if i'm asking this in the wrong place, but I noticed that for the 2024 Warlock, when gaining additional spells at 3rd level from your subclass, that there is no blurb stating they are considered Warlock spells for you. Does this mean they aren't considered warlock spells?
In 2014, the feature "Expanded Spell List" gained from your subclass had the text "The following spells are added to the warlock spell list for you." While 2024 simply has a feature for "[Subclass] Spells" and the text "...you thereafter always have the listed spells prepared.".
Using an example, does this prevent the Agonizing Blast invocation from being applied to Sacred Flame if you learn it from the Celestial Spells feature? The criteria for Agonizing Blast is level 2+ and "a Warlock Cantrip That Deals Damage"
It's unclear whether Eldritch Invocation spells count as Warlock spells for you. I'm ruling they are, but this is my personal take. They definitely do if you take Pact of the Tome, though.
So in typical me fashion, i found my answer immediately after asking.
Its cited under the 1st level feature Pact Magic.
"If another Warlock feature gives you spells that you always have prepared, those spells don’t count against the number of spells you can prepare with this feature, but those spells otherwise count as Warlock spells for you"
I was expecting it to still be mentioned under the subclasses and not unfer the main class.
So in typical me fashion, i found my answer immediately after asking.
Its cited under the 1st level feature Pact Magic.
"If another Warlock feature gives you spells that you always have prepared, those spells don’t count against the number of spells you can prepare with this feature, but those spells otherwise count as Warlock spells for you"
I was expecting it to still be mentioned under the subclasses and not unfer the main class.
Sorry for the trouble!
That's still a sticking point for some Invocations, as they allow you to cast a spell at will but don't specifically describe them as "prepared". Not hugely relevant, but it does raise the question of if you can use the GOOlock feature to cast Disguise Self or Silent Image without VS components if you took the appropriate Invocations.
So in typical me fashion, i found my answer immediately after asking.
Its cited under the 1st level feature Pact Magic.
"If another Warlock feature gives you spells that you always have prepared, those spells don’t count against the number of spells you can prepare with this feature, but those spells otherwise count as Warlock spells for you"
I was expecting it to still be mentioned under the subclasses and not unfer the main class.
Sorry for the trouble!
Yeah, that's totally true and clear for spells gained thanks to, for example, the Level 3: Celestial Spells feature.
I think that applies to Eldritch Invocations too, but like I said, that's just how I understand the rules and the Warlock class. As you can see in the linked thread, not everybody agrees.
And it's not trouble at all, you asked a good question.
Hello,
I apologise if i'm asking this in the wrong place, but I noticed that for the 2024 Warlock, when gaining additional spells at 3rd level from your subclass, that there is no blurb stating they are considered Warlock spells for you. Does this mean they aren't considered warlock spells?
In 2014, the feature "Expanded Spell List" gained from your subclass had the text "The following spells are added to the warlock spell list for you." While 2024 simply has a feature for "[Subclass] Spells" and the text "...you thereafter always have the listed spells prepared.".
Using an example, does this prevent the Agonizing Blast invocation from being applied to Sacred Flame if you learn it from the Celestial Spells feature? The criteria for Agonizing Blast is level 2+ and "a Warlock Cantrip That Deals Damage"
There was a long discussion here about that question: What exactly is considered a Warlock Spell, especially when multiclassing
It's unclear whether Eldritch Invocation spells count as Warlock spells for you. I'm ruling they are, but this is my personal take. They definitely do if you take Pact of the Tome, though.
So in typical me fashion, i found my answer immediately after asking.
Its cited under the 1st level feature Pact Magic.
"If another Warlock feature gives you spells that you always have prepared, those spells don’t count against the number of spells you can prepare with this feature, but those spells otherwise count as Warlock spells for you"
I was expecting it to still be mentioned under the subclasses and not unfer the main class.
Sorry for the trouble!
That's still a sticking point for some Invocations, as they allow you to cast a spell at will but don't specifically describe them as "prepared". Not hugely relevant, but it does raise the question of if you can use the GOOlock feature to cast Disguise Self or Silent Image without VS components if you took the appropriate Invocations.
Yeah, that's totally true and clear for spells gained thanks to, for example, the Level 3: Celestial Spells feature.
I think that applies to Eldritch Invocations too, but like I said, that's just how I understand the rules and the Warlock class. As you can see in the linked thread, not everybody agrees.
And it's not trouble at all, you asked a good question.