As I read their suggestion. I altered it in a way that i felt would be more legit. Like turning myself into a flea or a mouse and riding on it's back or held by its feet. And it would just be for the obstacle course. Flying speed of 60 ft and using my turn for perception checks on loot and bonus action giving a command telepathically. Then it can use its actions to dash. With a 60 ft flying speed. That's 120 ft a round. So I can still use my actions to decide if the loot is worth it but not miss out on dashing. However. Once i arrive. I fully intend to fight the duel.
A vampire in bat form is fly speed 30, in mist form is fly speed 20, and in both cases it can do this regardless of whether or not Paige uses their familiar to win. The familiar is fly speed 60. I don't see any credible reason to sit on the ability.
What may not be credible is wild shaping into a tardigrade, which may or may not exist in that world and is wildy out of line with the size of every given example of the kinds of things you can wild shape into. If there was an official beast that was effectively always invisible, nigh unhittable, could ride around on tiny things, was extremely resistant to heat and cold, could survive months without food or water or in frickin outer space, it would not be given a CR that this build would have access to. And if you get past all that, you still need to have seen it first. But I suppose your druid grove has a microscope?
Yes it would. The DMG covers the rules for calculating CR, and tardigrades are incredibly easy to hit. There's no way to get their CR above 1 without straight-up ignoring the CR rules:
OCR: 0, due to 0-1 DPR at -3 to hit (strength 1, dexterity 1, prof bonus +2).
DCR: Effective HP 64 + effective AC 7 = DCR 0.
Constitution 30 with 1 Tiny hit die is 12 hit points, proficiency in Con saves and ability checks has no impact, its pile of damage resistances and immunities doubles its effective hit points to 24. Condition immunities don't impact CR. Assuming you give it wereboar/zombie style durability, boost its hit points to 31. Assuming you give it regeneration 11, boost its effective hp to 64.
AC is 5; if we count it as permanently invisible, which it isn't, and that matters - the vampire can easily find it - its AC counts as 7.
Net CR: 0. If you gave it a pile more abilities, you might be able to get it up to CR 1/8 or even 1/4. No way in hell you're getting it up to CR 1.
Any legit wild shape form is going to be clearly visible and will require being dragged by the imp through the air, halving its movement and leaving you just as exposed to attack as any other plan. You need to be one size smaller than a creature to ride it, and there is no size smaller than Tiny.
You're not riding the familiar, so the mounted rules don't apply. Are you seriously suggesting druids can't turn into mosquitoes? Houseflies? Gnats? Come on.
And all that is beside the point that you're basically rejecting the entire premise the DM has set up just to "win." I mean it's a fun thought experiment but sounds like a terrible session to play through.
Rejecting the premise is how you beat most challenges in life, which is what OP asked for advice on - I'm not here to tell OP how to have fun, and you shouldn't be, either. You can't lose if you don't play, and OP is running straight into an uphill battle by challenging a monk to a race, followed by fisticuffs in a constrained arena. Playing by the tourney's rules means an automatic loss. The only solution is using magical shenanigans to subvert the rules. Otherwise, OP may as well bail on the tournament entirely and sit out the session, which sounds like a terrible session to play through to me - but again, I'm not here to tell OP how to play or have fun. I'm just providing the advice I was asked for.
As I read their suggestion. I altered it in a way that i felt would be more legit. Like turning myself into a flea or a mouse and riding on it's back or held by its feet. And it would just be for the obstacle course. Flying speed of 60 ft and using my turn for perception checks on loot and bonus action giving a command telepathically. Then it can use its actions to dash. With a 60 ft flying speed. That's 120 ft a round. So I can still use my actions to decide if the loot is worth it but not miss out on dashing. However. Once i arrive. I fully intend to fight the duel.
Right, of course. Any sufficiently tiny creature would do fine.
A vampire in bat form is fly speed 30, in mist form is fly speed 20, and in both cases it can do this regardless of whether or not Paige uses their familiar to win. The familiar is fly speed 60. I don't see any credible reason to sit on the ability.
What may not be credible is wild shaping into a tardigrade, which may or may not exist in that world and is wildy out of line with the size of every given example of the kinds of things you can wild shape into. If there was an official beast that was effectively always invisible, nigh unhittable, could ride around on tiny things, was extremely resistant to heat and cold, could survive months without food or water or in frickin outer space, it would not be given a CR that this build would have access to. And if you get past all that, you still need to have seen it first. But I suppose your druid grove has a microscope?
Yes it would. The DMG covers the rules for calculating CR, and tardigrades are incredibly easy to hit. There's no way to get their CR above 1 without straight-up ignoring the CR rules:
OCR: 0, due to 0-1 DPR at -3 to hit (strength 1, dexterity 1, prof bonus +2).
DCR: Effective HP 64 + effective AC 7 = DCR 0.
Constitution 30 with 1 Tiny hit die is 12 hit points, proficiency in Con saves and ability checks has no impact, its pile of damage resistances and immunities doubles its effective hit points to 24. Condition immunities don't impact CR. Assuming you give it wereboar/zombie style durability, boost its hit points to 31. Assuming you give it regeneration 11, boost its effective hp to 64.
AC is 5; if we count it as permanently invisible, which it isn't, and that matters - the vampire can easily find it - its AC counts as 7.
Net CR: 0. If you gave it a pile more abilities, you might be able to get it up to CR 1/8 or even 1/4. No way in hell you're getting it up to CR 1.
Any legit wild shape form is going to be clearly visible and will require being dragged by the imp through the air, halving its movement and leaving you just as exposed to attack as any other plan. You need to be one size smaller than a creature to ride it, and there is no size smaller than Tiny.
You're not riding the familiar, so the mounted rules don't apply. Are you seriously suggesting druids can't turn into mosquitoes? Houseflies? Gnats? Come on.
And all that is beside the point that you're basically rejecting the entire premise the DM has set up just to "win." I mean it's a fun thought experiment but sounds like a terrible session to play through.
Rejecting the premise is how you beat most challenges in life, which is what OP asked for advice on - I'm not here to tell OP how to have fun, and you shouldn't be, either. You can't lose if you don't play, and OP is running straight into an uphill battle by challenging a monk to a race, followed by fisticuffs in a constrained arena. Playing by the tourney's rules means an automatic loss. The only solution is using magical shenanigans to subvert the rules. Otherwise, OP may as well bail on the tournament entirely and sit out the session, which sounds like a terrible session to play through to me - but again, I'm not here to tell OP how to play or have fun. I'm just providing the advice I was asked for.
either way you ignored the part about having seen the thing before you wild shape into it, which is basically the most important part.
As for turning into a mosquito or similar, I'm not sure if they could or not, I've never seen anyone even attempt something like that. But at least they can be seen without a microscope so.. I don't mind the whole turning into something and being carried by another thing, or even the whole waiting in the air, though I'd say whatever the case if this shenanigans were pulled round 1 the rules would be changed for round 2 and onwards to a timelimit, in real life and fantasy life as well because no one would put up with it more than once. Using it once, even if I don't agree with the premise you set, but if you somehow managed to do it once against the vampire until the sun rises I'd sure allow it and make a cool scene of anger from the vampire and cheers from the crowd or something. It's kinda a fun idea. It actually made me think of some similar kinda competition which would actually just be more of a "survive until dawn" kinda thing, might make a one-shot of it just because. So thanks!
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As I read their suggestion. I altered it in a way that i felt would be more legit. Like turning myself into a flea or a mouse and riding on it's back or held by its feet. And it would just be for the obstacle course. Flying speed of 60 ft and using my turn for perception checks on loot and bonus action giving a command telepathically. Then it can use its actions to dash. With a 60 ft flying speed. That's 120 ft a round. So I can still use my actions to decide if the loot is worth it but not miss out on dashing. However. Once i arrive. I fully intend to fight the duel.
Yes it would. The DMG covers the rules for calculating CR, and tardigrades are incredibly easy to hit. There's no way to get their CR above 1 without straight-up ignoring the CR rules:
OCR: 0, due to 0-1 DPR at -3 to hit (strength 1, dexterity 1, prof bonus +2).
DCR: Effective HP 64 + effective AC 7 = DCR 0.
Constitution 30 with 1 Tiny hit die is 12 hit points, proficiency in Con saves and ability checks has no impact, its pile of damage resistances and immunities doubles its effective hit points to 24. Condition immunities don't impact CR. Assuming you give it wereboar/zombie style durability, boost its hit points to 31. Assuming you give it regeneration 11, boost its effective hp to 64.
AC is 5; if we count it as permanently invisible, which it isn't, and that matters - the vampire can easily find it - its AC counts as 7.
Net CR: 0. If you gave it a pile more abilities, you might be able to get it up to CR 1/8 or even 1/4. No way in hell you're getting it up to CR 1.
You're not riding the familiar, so the mounted rules don't apply. Are you seriously suggesting druids can't turn into mosquitoes? Houseflies? Gnats? Come on.
Rejecting the premise is how you beat most challenges in life, which is what OP asked for advice on - I'm not here to tell OP how to have fun, and you shouldn't be, either. You can't lose if you don't play, and OP is running straight into an uphill battle by challenging a monk to a race, followed by fisticuffs in a constrained arena. Playing by the tourney's rules means an automatic loss. The only solution is using magical shenanigans to subvert the rules. Otherwise, OP may as well bail on the tournament entirely and sit out the session, which sounds like a terrible session to play through to me - but again, I'm not here to tell OP how to play or have fun. I'm just providing the advice I was asked for.
Right, of course. Any sufficiently tiny creature would do fine.
either way you ignored the part about having seen the thing before you wild shape into it, which is basically the most important part.
As for turning into a mosquito or similar, I'm not sure if they could or not, I've never seen anyone even attempt something like that. But at least they can be seen without a microscope so.. I don't mind the whole turning into something and being carried by another thing, or even the whole waiting in the air, though I'd say whatever the case if this shenanigans were pulled round 1 the rules would be changed for round 2 and onwards to a timelimit, in real life and fantasy life as well because no one would put up with it more than once. Using it once, even if I don't agree with the premise you set, but if you somehow managed to do it once against the vampire until the sun rises I'd sure allow it and make a cool scene of anger from the vampire and cheers from the crowd or something. It's kinda a fun idea. It actually made me think of some similar kinda competition which would actually just be more of a "survive until dawn" kinda thing, might make a one-shot of it just because. So thanks!
eldritch blast + repelling blast. and mage armor and shield for the duels
for the race wild shape into a dire wolf.
This Mug immediately shared with me a transcendental tale of an Infinite Mug that anchors the Universe and keeps it from folding in on itself. I filed this report under "illogical nonsense" and asked why its sign is in Times New Roman font, when it is basic knowledge that Arial Black is a far superior font. I wondered: How did this mug even get past the assembly line with its theistic beliefs and poor font choices?
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