At level 4, druids gain the ability to wildshape into beasts with swimming speeds. One of these beasts is the giant poisonous snake. There is an injury poison known as serpent venom, which in the DMG costs 200 gold pieces. It is created by extracting venom (using a poisoner's kit) from a dead or incapacitated giant poisonous snake. If the druid wildshaped into a giant poisonous snake and chose to become incapacitated from a spell or something, another character with a poisoner's kit could get a dose of serpent venom. You can then repeat this to get a potentially infinite supply of poison, which you could then sell. Great way to help the party tank get plate armor, or afford the diamond dust for revivify.
Disclaimer: I have no idea whether or not this works in 5.5e(2024), or if your DM will allow it.
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lol Until the DM rules that you've over-saturated the market and either the price drops to near nothing, or every potential buyer has already purchased all they can. Personally, I would just have the usual suppliers of poison on the black market, hire assassins to go after the party for disrupting their profits.
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This, as harmassassin alludes to, is one of many example of get rich schemes that don’t work when you play with a DM who simply says no one wants to buy your stuff. The concept is a video game mentality where there’s always a person to sell everything to.
Not something I have ever used for infinite gold, but a previous DM let us do this from time to time to stock up on potions, get better non-magical gear, etc at low levels. Have the druid wild shape into a horse (Riding at level 2 - CR 1/4, or war horse at level 4- CR 1/2). Sell to a merchant near closing time while the druid still has time on the wild shape. After stabled, get out. Of course, we were always careful to disguise ourselves beforehand, and never twice in the same town, or too often.
Again, not an infinite money scheme, but enough to buy a healing potion or two, or that pearl so your group mage can cast identify.
Not something I have ever used for infinite gold, but a previous DM let us do this from time to time to stock up on potions, get better non-magical gear, etc at low levels. Have the druid wild shape into a horse (Riding at level 2 - CR 1/4, or war horse at level 4- CR 1/2). Sell to a merchant near closing time while the druid still has time on the wild shape. After stabled, get out. Of course, we were always careful to disguise ourselves beforehand, and never twice in the same town, or too often.
Again, not an infinite money scheme, but enough to buy a healing potion or two, or that pearl so your group mage can cast identify.
That's fraud though, and you can get caught. This would just be producing rare poison at will.
Not something I have ever used for infinite gold, but a previous DM let us do this from time to time to stock up on potions, get better non-magical gear, etc at low levels. Have the druid wild shape into a horse (Riding at level 2 - CR 1/4, or war horse at level 4- CR 1/2). Sell to a merchant near closing time while the druid still has time on the wild shape. After stabled, get out. Of course, we were always careful to disguise ourselves beforehand, and never twice in the same town, or too often.
Again, not an infinite money scheme, but enough to buy a healing potion or two, or that pearl so your group mage can cast identify.
That's fraud though, and you can get caught. This would just be producing rare poison at will.
Who would buy an injury poison though? The only people who would want it are assassins, or maybe some tyrant warlord? Now an ingestion poison perhaps some farmers would want it to kill rats or something, but injury poisons are pretty useless to nearly everyone.
Not something I have ever used for infinite gold, but a previous DM let us do this from time to time to stock up on potions, get better non-magical gear, etc at low levels. Have the druid wild shape into a horse (Riding at level 2 - CR 1/4, or war horse at level 4- CR 1/2). Sell to a merchant near closing time while the druid still has time on the wild shape. After stabled, get out. Of course, we were always careful to disguise ourselves beforehand, and never twice in the same town, or too often.
Again, not an infinite money scheme, but enough to buy a healing potion or two, or that pearl so your group mage can cast identify.
That's fraud though, and you can get caught. This would just be producing rare poison at will.
Who would buy an injury poison though? The only people who would want it are assassins, or maybe some tyrant warlord? Now an ingestion poison perhaps some farmers would want it to kill rats or something, but injury poisons are pretty useless to nearly everyone.
People sell it, don't they? You can just sell it to (shady) shop owners at a discount.
Not something I have ever used for infinite gold, but a previous DM let us do this from time to time to stock up on potions, get better non-magical gear, etc at low levels. Have the druid wild shape into a horse (Riding at level 2 - CR 1/4, or war horse at level 4- CR 1/2). Sell to a merchant near closing time while the druid still has time on the wild shape. After stabled, get out. Of course, we were always careful to disguise ourselves beforehand, and never twice in the same town, or too often.
Again, not an infinite money scheme, but enough to buy a healing potion or two, or that pearl so your group mage can cast identify.
That's fraud though, and you can get caught. This would just be producing rare poison at will.
Who would buy an injury poison though? The only people who would want it are assassins, or maybe some tyrant warlord? Now an ingestion poison perhaps some farmers would want it to kill rats or something, but injury poisons are pretty useless to nearly everyone.
Really, the idea is far better suited to an NPC -- an assassin's guild with a willing (or unwilling?) druid who wild shapes to supply them with poison
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This, as harmassassin alludes to, is one of many example of get rich schemes that don’t work when you play with a DM who simply says no one wants to buy your stuff. The concept is a video game mentality where there’s always a person to sell everything to.
I'd allow it at least once, just because of the players' creativity to think of this.
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(And, of course, Dragon Tamer. It is in the name, after all)
This, as harmassassin alludes to, is one of many example of get rich schemes that don’t work when you play with a DM who simply says no one wants to buy your stuff. The concept is a video game mentality where there’s always a person to sell everything to.
I'd allow it at least once, just because of the players' creativity to think of this.
It’s not especially creative. The idea, and ones like it, have been around for years.
This, as harmassassin alludes to, is one of many example of get rich schemes that don’t work when you play with a DM who simply says no one wants to buy your stuff. The concept is a video game mentality where there’s always a person to sell everything to.
I'd allow it at least once, just because of the players' creativity to think of this.
It’s not especially creative. The idea, and ones like it, have been around for years.
It's one of the reasons that older editions made it so that things that were removed from a polymorphed or wild shaped creature instantly revert to the creature's original form. Sometimes, venom would last long enough to affect an enemy your wildshaped druid bit, but at least one version of the rules didn't even allow that much and made venom attacks completely useless.
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"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Okay. So you’re utilizing wild shape and catnap for this “infinite supply of gold” by over saturating the venom market?
So- there must be balance right? Shops/people won’t keep buying the venom unless they can sell it or use it right?
down the road in the campaign- every single weapon ever encountered by BBEG enemies has a chance of going to be coated in these venoms, just because there is so much of this venom that is easily accessible and purchasable in the world all of a sudden.
You could also wildshape into a bat at 2nd level, take a sh*t and sell that, as bat guano is a spell component for Fireball, so a lot of wizards would pay between 1-3gp for it. You could do the same, but just enslave bats instead of wildshaping into them, so you won't need to be a druid at all.
Technically, the druid could also turn into a swarm of bats and do the same as well, giving you roughly 22 balls of bat guano rather than the one, meaning roughly 22-66gp worth
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At level 4, druids gain the ability to wildshape into beasts with swimming speeds. One of these beasts is the giant poisonous snake. There is an injury poison known as serpent venom, which in the DMG costs 200 gold pieces. It is created by extracting venom (using a poisoner's kit) from a dead or incapacitated giant poisonous snake. If the druid wildshaped into a giant poisonous snake and chose to become incapacitated from a spell or something, another character with a poisoner's kit could get a dose of serpent venom. You can then repeat this to get a potentially infinite supply of poison, which you could then sell. Great way to help the party tank get plate armor, or afford the diamond dust for revivify.
Disclaimer: I have no idea whether or not this works in 5.5e(2024), or if your DM will allow it.
Pokemon Master, Hero of Hyrule, Jedi Knight, Minecrafter, Celestial Being Beyond Comprehension, Bounty Hunter, Salmon Runner, Nailmaster, Yarn Yoshi Enjoyer, Animal Lover, Math Rock Roller, Nerd King in all Aspects.
(And, of course, Dragon Tamer. It is in the name, after all)
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My party also figured this out lol.
lol Until the DM rules that you've over-saturated the market and either the price drops to near nothing, or every potential buyer has already purchased all they can. Personally, I would just have the usual suppliers of poison on the black market, hire assassins to go after the party for disrupting their profits.
Playing D&D since 1982
Have played every version of the game since Basic (Red Box Set), except that abomination sometimes called 4e.
Who are you going to sell this poison to?
This, as harmassassin alludes to, is one of many example of get rich schemes that don’t work when you play with a DM who simply says no one wants to buy your stuff. The concept is a video game mentality where there’s always a person to sell everything to.
You can always just use the infinite poison.
Not something I have ever used for infinite gold, but a previous DM let us do this from time to time to stock up on potions, get better non-magical gear, etc at low levels. Have the druid wild shape into a horse (Riding at level 2 - CR 1/4, or war horse at level 4- CR 1/2). Sell to a merchant near closing time while the druid still has time on the wild shape. After stabled, get out. Of course, we were always careful to disguise ourselves beforehand, and never twice in the same town, or too often.
Again, not an infinite money scheme, but enough to buy a healing potion or two, or that pearl so your group mage can cast identify.
That's fraud though, and you can get caught. This would just be producing rare poison at will.
Who would buy an injury poison though? The only people who would want it are assassins, or maybe some tyrant warlord? Now an ingestion poison perhaps some farmers would want it to kill rats or something, but injury poisons are pretty useless to nearly everyone.
People sell it, don't they? You can just sell it to (shady) shop owners at a discount.
Really, the idea is far better suited to an NPC -- an assassin's guild with a willing (or unwilling?) druid who wild shapes to supply them with poison
Active characters:
Carric Aquissar, elven wannabe artist in his deconstructionist period (Archfey warlock)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator obsessed with that one unsolved murder (Assassin rogue)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
I kind of did that in one of my games, only it was a Yuan'ti boss of an assassin's guild supplying his favourites with venom.
I'd allow it at least once, just because of the players' creativity to think of this.
Pokemon Master, Hero of Hyrule, Jedi Knight, Minecrafter, Celestial Being Beyond Comprehension, Bounty Hunter, Salmon Runner, Nailmaster, Yarn Yoshi Enjoyer, Animal Lover, Math Rock Roller, Nerd King in all Aspects.
(And, of course, Dragon Tamer. It is in the name, after all)
HE'S BACK... AND WEIRDER THAN EVER!
It’s not especially creative. The idea, and ones like it, have been around for years.
It's one of the reasons that older editions made it so that things that were removed from a polymorphed or wild shaped creature instantly revert to the creature's original form. Sometimes, venom would last long enough to affect an enemy your wildshaped druid bit, but at least one version of the rules didn't even allow that much and made venom attacks completely useless.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Okay. So you’re utilizing wild shape and catnap for this “infinite supply of gold” by over saturating the venom market?
So- there must be balance right? Shops/people won’t keep buying the venom unless they can sell it or use it right?
down the road in the campaign- every single weapon ever encountered by BBEG enemies has a chance of going to be coated in these venoms, just because there is so much of this venom that is easily accessible and purchasable in the world all of a sudden.
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You could also wildshape into a bat at 2nd level, take a sh*t and sell that, as bat guano is a spell component for Fireball, so a lot of wizards would pay between 1-3gp for it. You could do the same, but just enslave bats instead of wildshaping into them, so you won't need to be a druid at all.
Technically, the druid could also turn into a swarm of bats and do the same as well, giving you roughly 22 balls of bat guano rather than the one, meaning roughly 22-66gp worth