Dragonlance was the setting the killed dragons for me. Turning the most epic monster of all into mounts and footsoldiers was a grave disservice to all. I hated that the good dragons were so dumb - despite their genius level intelligence - that they managed to let the evil dragons steal all their eggs and turn them into cannonfodder omelettes. And even more, I hated the idea that however many dragon eggs one might imagine in the world at one time (I'd say dozens is propably too high) could be turned into innumerable armies of draconians.
So yea, sorry, fly in the ointment here.
Maybe they'll fix all that. Hahah.
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Fix all that? It's kind if the core of Krynn's storyline.
I always thought the peak of 2e was the Dragon module that turned dragons into PCs. So yeah, I feel you. Krynn's dragons are a far cry from that. It's just a different world. Got to let Weis and Hickman make the call on what a dragon "is." Kind of like how you can't tell a DM how to run dragons in his homebrew, is how I look at it.
Still not a whole lot of information. Definitely not enough for me to be pre-ordering after the Spelljammer fiasco. Still going to wait until after the Book is out and I can see it before buying. I no longer trust WotC enough to buy any more pigs in a poke. For some reason I get the feel that is Book predates the original modules. If this is another attempt buy WotC to re-write their pre-existing Lore, I won't be buying it. I am sick and tired of them re-wring existing Lore for the purpose of 'Socializing' D&D. So far, for what they have shown us of ONE D&D, it is not something I will be buying. I'll be switching over to Pathfinder 2 when the new Edition of D&D comes out. The one thing about the above post that encouraged me was that there would be no ONE D&D slant to the Book.
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Watch your back, conserve your ammo, and NEVER cut a deal with a dragon!
Dragonlance was the setting the killed dragons for me. Turning the most epic monster of all into mounts and footsoldiers was a grave disservice to all. I hated that the good dragons were so dumb - despite their genius level intelligence - that they managed to let the evil dragons steal all their eggs and turn them into cannonfodder omelettes. And even more, I hated the idea that however many dragon eggs one might imagine in the world at one time (I'd say dozens is propably too high) could be turned into innumerable armies of draconians.
So yea, sorry, fly in the ointment here.
Maybe they'll fix all that. Hahah.
"Good is dumber than a sack of rocks" seems to be a running theme in Dragonlance. This was the setting where the Kingpriest of Ishtar was declared "good" (even though in any other setting he'd have been clearly Lawful Evil) and "good" was too powerful so the "good" deities reacted by dropping an asteroid on his capital city and wiping out a good chunk of the continent.
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Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Some of my best Dragonlance scenes included gully dwarves with that said I think its best for the hobby to take them out of main books. I can add what I want to my own games maybe I will add them maybe I will remove them.
There were many cute scenes and scenes that made them noble in their cursed limitations. (I played them as cursed to be the way they were but insisted in trying to find their own happiness even as the world moved around them and disrespected them)
I will be giving the published materials a lengthy review before I put any money down on this; DL is a bigger, more established property then SJ was so maybe they just didn't have the writing team to do two setting guides properly and thus it sucked up more of them, but I do not trust them to put together a setting guide at this point enough to put down money sight unseen.
Let's be honest - gully dwarves are Jar Jar Binks.
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Blanket disclaimer: I only ever state opinion. But I can sound terribly dogmatic - so if you feel I'm trying to tell you what to think, I'm really not, I swear. I'm telling you what I think, that's all.
Wanted to share this with anyone who is interested: "Here's a sneak peek at DnD Dragonlance 5e's first chapter"
I like what I'm seeing so far.
C. Foster Payne
"If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around."
Good.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Dragonlance was the setting the killed dragons for me. Turning the most epic monster of all into mounts and footsoldiers was a grave disservice to all. I hated that the good dragons were so dumb - despite their genius level intelligence - that they managed to let the evil dragons steal all their eggs and turn them into cannonfodder omelettes. And even more, I hated the idea that however many dragon eggs one might imagine in the world at one time (I'd say dozens is propably too high) could be turned into innumerable armies of draconians.
So yea, sorry, fly in the ointment here.
Maybe they'll fix all that. Hahah.
Blanket disclaimer: I only ever state opinion. But I can sound terribly dogmatic - so if you feel I'm trying to tell you what to think, I'm really not, I swear. I'm telling you what I think, that's all.
Fix all that? It's kind if the core of Krynn's storyline.
I always thought the peak of 2e was the Dragon module that turned dragons into PCs. So yeah, I feel you. Krynn's dragons are a far cry from that. It's just a different world. Got to let Weis and Hickman make the call on what a dragon "is." Kind of like how you can't tell a DM how to run dragons in his homebrew, is how I look at it.
Still not a whole lot of information. Definitely not enough for me to be pre-ordering after the Spelljammer fiasco. Still going to wait until after the Book is out and I can see it before buying. I no longer trust WotC enough to buy any more pigs in a poke.
For some reason I get the feel that is Book predates the original modules. If this is another attempt buy WotC to re-write their pre-existing Lore, I won't be buying it. I am sick and tired of them re-wring existing Lore for the purpose of 'Socializing' D&D.
So far, for what they have shown us of ONE D&D, it is not something I will be buying. I'll be switching over to Pathfinder 2 when the new Edition of D&D comes out. The one thing about the above post that encouraged me was that there would be no ONE D&D slant to the Book.
Watch your back, conserve your ammo,
and NEVER cut a deal with a dragon!
"Good is dumber than a sack of rocks" seems to be a running theme in Dragonlance. This was the setting where the Kingpriest of Ishtar was declared "good" (even though in any other setting he'd have been clearly Lawful Evil) and "good" was too powerful so the "good" deities reacted by dropping an asteroid on his capital city and wiping out a good chunk of the continent.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Meh, I loved the Gully Dwarves. Bupu in particular was a major influence on Raistlin. Their cattle-pults were a stroke of genius too
Some of my best Dragonlance scenes included gully dwarves with that said I think its best for the hobby to take them out of main books. I can add what I want to my own games maybe I will add them maybe I will remove them.
There were many cute scenes and scenes that made them noble in their cursed limitations. (I played them as cursed to be the way they were but insisted in trying to find their own happiness even as the world moved around them and disrespected them)
They were seriously cringe-worthy and made me want to skip anything they were present in.
I will be giving the published materials a lengthy review before I put any money down on this; DL is a bigger, more established property then SJ was so maybe they just didn't have the writing team to do two setting guides properly and thus it sucked up more of them, but I do not trust them to put together a setting guide at this point enough to put down money sight unseen.
Let's be honest - gully dwarves are Jar Jar Binks.
Blanket disclaimer: I only ever state opinion. But I can sound terribly dogmatic - so if you feel I'm trying to tell you what to think, I'm really not, I swear. I'm telling you what I think, that's all.
I just dug out all my old 2e Spelljammer materials. Book 1 of the 5e Spelljammer set of books is almost useless.
Watch your back, conserve your ammo,
and NEVER cut a deal with a dragon!