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If you post anything to Homebrew, DM notes, or to the forums or anywhere on this web platform, you have granted WOTC all the rights we are lamenting.
Yep. If you create the a awesome homebrew monster using DnDBeyond. It very well could very well become D&D's next Vecna and the only thing you would get in return is to complain about it. hah
That said, I definitely have appreciated using DnDBeyond's tool. Primarily because I create them there and use tools to import them into my VTT. It's just a shame that they can basically steal your work without any sort of compensation.
In the future, I will likely just create everything in compendiums in Foundry VTT.
Once DndBeyond's VTT is released. Pretty much anything anyone uses in it, will be subject to WotC ownership. Which until they remove that verbiage or at least as it pertains to those tools. Makes DnDBeyond's VTT a non-starter for homebrewers.
5.2.License to Wizards. By posting or submitting any User Content to or through the Websites, Games, or Services, you hereby irrevocably grant to Wizards a worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, non-exclusive, and fully sublicensable license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such User Content (in whole or in part) in any media and to incorporate the User Content into other works in any format or medium now known or later developed. The foregoing grants shall include the right to: (i) exploit any proprietary rights in such User Content, including but not limited to, rights under copyright, trademark or patent laws under any relevant jurisdiction; (ii) your name, likeness, and any other information included in your User Content, without any obligation to you. You waive any and all claims that any use by us or our licensees of your User Content violates any of your rights, including moral rights, privacy rights, rights to publicity, proprietary, attribution, or other rights, and rights to any material or ideas contained in your User Content.
If you post anything to Homebrew, DM notes, or to the forums or anywhere on this web platform, you have granted WOTC all the rights we are lamenting.
this is why 3pps publish their works as books or PDFs and not homebrew compilations on DDB.
the difference between these things you're listing is precedent. if DnD were never made open, in a world with no Ryan Dancie, DnD would've died a long slow death and some other group of authors probably would've revived a similar idea through their own system. that isn't the world we live in though - the world we live in is one where a dozen different games, video games, publishing houses, and creators, have made a living and products built on top of the foundation - yes of DnD's SRD - but more importantly the OGL 1.0a.
long and short, nobody serious uses DDB's homebrew for anything outside of games they're running on DDB. it's an insular system. they build stuff on top of the OGL elsewhere, and it catches on, sometimes growing into its own game system entirely.
Sigh. This was already addressed back when WotC bought Beyond. Their 5.2 is actually more user friendly than Fandom’s was, and this exact language is found in nearly every online contract you sign, be it for Discord, various wikis, Reddit, etc.
Why? This language is necessary for the sites to function. If you write content, you have rights to it. Without this language, Wizards (or Discord, or Reddit, etc.) would be violating your rights whenever they beamed your protected material to third parties without your permission.
All the freaking out over 5.2 is by people who don’t understand how the internet or law works, and who have never actually read anyone else’s terms and conditions so are surprised about language they didn’t realise is industry standard and that they’ve agreed to countless times before.
I tried to bring up this exact point in the comments under their article discussing content ownership. It was immediately removed for "con-constructive posting," despite the fact that it was directly responding to the post and answering the questions that many users had in the comments. The admin that reviewed my appeal simply stated:
Writing explicitly to list all of the things that can be done, after it having been made clear that the sole intent is to be able to continue operating normally, was viewed as Non-Constructive.
Just because they stated something, does not mean that they cannot change their mind. Just like how they told creators that the material that they created under the old OGL would be protected by it forever.
"You waive any and all claims that any use by us or our licensees of your User Content violates any of your rights, including moral rights, privacy rights, rights to publicity, proprietary, attribution, or other rights, and rights to any material or ideas contained in your User Content."
In other words, your "stuff" gets stolen and you have to shut up and enjoy it because you have no rights to your own creativity. Anything you create in D&D Beyond will automatically be owned by D&D Beyond and you can't even have your name on it. Kind of like anything created in Ukraine is really just part of Russia and is owned by the Russian government, according to Putin.
Have fun with D&D Beyond. I'm going back to RuneQuest.
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S. Thompson
When life is bleak, all hope is lost, a wall is at your back, you always have one option left...attack! Attack! ATTACK! - Me
These are not uncommon terms on the internet. Read over YouTube’s TOS. They can take your stuff and use it pretty much however they want. They can make money from your stuff and not pay you. I get not liking it. I get being mad about it. But it’s pretty much how the internet works, getting mad at just one company for an industry standard practice seems a bit odd. It’s more of a “call your congressperson and get some laws changed” situation.
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5.2. License to Wizards. By posting or submitting any User Content to or through the Websites, Games, or Services, you hereby irrevocably grant to Wizards a worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, non-exclusive, and fully sublicensable license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such User Content (in whole or in part) in any media and to incorporate the User Content into other works in any format or medium now known or later developed. The foregoing grants shall include the right to: (i) exploit any proprietary rights in such User Content, including but not limited to, rights under copyright, trademark or patent laws under any relevant jurisdiction; (ii) your name, likeness, and any other information included in your User Content, without any obligation to you. You waive any and all claims that any use by us or our licensees of your User Content violates any of your rights, including moral rights, privacy rights, rights to publicity, proprietary, attribution, or other rights, and rights to any material or ideas contained in your User Content.
If you post anything to Homebrew, DM notes, or to the forums or anywhere on this web platform, you have granted WOTC all the rights we are lamenting.
Yep. If you create the a awesome homebrew monster using DnDBeyond. It very well could very well become D&D's next Vecna and the only thing you would get in return is to complain about it. hah
That said, I definitely have appreciated using DnDBeyond's tool. Primarily because I create them there and use tools to import them into my VTT. It's just a shame that they can basically steal your work without any sort of compensation.
In the future, I will likely just create everything in compendiums in Foundry VTT.
Once DndBeyond's VTT is released. Pretty much anything anyone uses in it, will be subject to WotC ownership. Which until they remove that verbiage or at least as it pertains to those tools. Makes DnDBeyond's VTT a non-starter for homebrewers.
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this is why 3pps publish their works as books or PDFs and not homebrew compilations on DDB.
the difference between these things you're listing is precedent. if DnD were never made open, in a world with no Ryan Dancie, DnD would've died a long slow death and some other group of authors probably would've revived a similar idea through their own system. that isn't the world we live in though - the world we live in is one where a dozen different games, video games, publishing houses, and creators, have made a living and products built on top of the foundation - yes of DnD's SRD - but more importantly the OGL 1.0a.
long and short, nobody serious uses DDB's homebrew for anything outside of games they're running on DDB. it's an insular system. they build stuff on top of the OGL elsewhere, and it catches on, sometimes growing into its own game system entirely.
Sigh. This was already addressed back when WotC bought Beyond. Their 5.2 is actually more user friendly than Fandom’s was, and this exact language is found in nearly every online contract you sign, be it for Discord, various wikis, Reddit, etc.
Why? This language is necessary for the sites to function. If you write content, you have rights to it. Without this language, Wizards (or Discord, or Reddit, etc.) would be violating your rights whenever they beamed your protected material to third parties without your permission.
All the freaking out over 5.2 is by people who don’t understand how the internet or law works, and who have never actually read anyone else’s terms and conditions so are surprised about language they didn’t realise is industry standard and that they’ve agreed to countless times before.
I tried to bring up this exact point in the comments under their article discussing content ownership. It was immediately removed for "con-constructive posting," despite the fact that it was directly responding to the post and answering the questions that many users had in the comments. The admin that reviewed my appeal simply stated:
Just because they stated something, does not mean that they cannot change their mind. Just like how they told creators that the material that they created under the old OGL would be protected by it forever.
Actually, you can 't even complain about it.
"You waive any and all claims that any use by us or our licensees of your User Content violates any of your rights, including moral rights, privacy rights, rights to publicity, proprietary, attribution, or other rights, and rights to any material or ideas contained in your User Content."
In other words, your "stuff" gets stolen and you have to shut up and enjoy it because you have no rights to your own creativity. Anything you create in D&D Beyond will automatically be owned by D&D Beyond and you can't even have your name on it. Kind of like anything created in Ukraine is really just part of Russia and is owned by the Russian government, according to Putin.
Have fun with D&D Beyond. I'm going back to RuneQuest.
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"
- Hunter S. Thompson
When life is bleak, all hope is lost, a wall is at your back, you always have one option left...attack! Attack! ATTACK!
- Me
These are not uncommon terms on the internet. Read over YouTube’s TOS.
They can take your stuff and use it pretty much however they want. They can make money from your stuff and not pay you.
I get not liking it. I get being mad about it. But it’s pretty much how the internet works, getting mad at just one company for an industry standard practice seems a bit odd. It’s more of a “call your congressperson and get some laws changed” situation.